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作者: bettyofarim    时间: 2003-12-12 20:24
标题: 请教885的21部分22提
22.    Unlike most warbler species, the male and female blue-winged warbler are very difficult to tell apart.
(A) Unlike most warbler species, the male and female blue-winged warbler are very difficult to tell apart.
(B) Unlike most warbler species, the gender of the blue-winged warbler is very difficult to distinguish.
(C) Unlike those in most warbler species, the male and female blue-winged warblers are very difficult to distinguish.
(D) It is very difficult, unlike in most warbler species, to tell the male and female blue-winged warbler apart.
(E) Blue-winged warblers are unlike most species of warbler in that it is very difficult to tell the male and female apart.
答案E。请问C错在哪里呢?
作者: solome    时间: 2003-12-12 22:10
those的指代不清
作者: JerryGuan    时间: 2004-4-9 17:13
those 不能指代 the male and female blue-winged warblers 吗?
作者: tianwan    时间: 2004-4-11 21:46
those是替代the male and female blue-winged warblers ,但我们不能说the male and female blue-winged warblers in most warbler species.  
作者: JerryGuan    时间: 2004-4-11 23:38

塞开!

限定修饰


作者: 小I爱漂漂    时间: 2005-2-3 09:28

那A呢?A为什么不对? 我想是不是因为A和C都是需要用被动的呀.Unlike most warbler species, the male and female blue-winged warbler are very difficult to tell apart.是不是应该是"Unlike most warbler species, the male and female blue-winged warbler are very difficult to be told apart.

c中也是一样,除了TIANWAN版主说的以外, Unlike those in most warbler species, the male and female blue-winged warblers are very difficult to distinguish  是不是应该用"  Unlike those in most warbler species, the male and female blue-winged warblers are very difficult to be distinguished."

谢!


作者: brace    时间: 2005-2-5 02:09
A把SPECIES和WARBLER并列了, 并列的等级不对。
作者: yoyocai    时间: 2005-5-24 12:53
可是E里面也是用species 和walbers对比的呀
作者: Avantasia    时间: 2005-5-24 14:30

(A) Unlike most warbler species, the male and female blue-winged warbler are very difficult to tell apart.


warbler因该用复数,因为后面是are!


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作者: nickt    时间: 2005-6-22 16:23

除了以上的细节,是不是其中有逻辑的含意在内? to tell ...apart is difficult.


the ... warbler(s) are very difficult to tell apart. 总感觉warblers不能成为 be difficult的主语.


盼NN, 答复.


作者: lukapurple    时间: 2005-7-11 23:33

还是不明白A错在哪里?the male and female blue-winged warbler两个单数名词用and连接,后面可以用复数谓语动词啊。


作者: dccndmr    时间: 2005-9-23 02:26

agree with nickt


作者: snowjing    时间: 2005-9-30 04:01
以下是引用brace在2005-2-5 2:09:00的发言:
A把SPECIES和WARBLER并列了, 并列的等级不对。


A除了to tell apart不对, 为何warbler species和warbler(s)并列等级不对呢? 不都是会唱歌的鸟吗?
作者: snowjing    时间: 2005-10-14 22:33

顶一下!


作者: marylou    时间: 2005-10-20 16:49

A,Unlike most warbler species, the male and female blue-winged warbler 。。。


   不象大多数的warbler物种,这个雌雄warbler鸟.....


   物种与具体的动物不是同一级次。而且,一个抽象、一个具体


作者: julia_ggw    时间: 2005-11-24 09:17
我觉得A项的错误主要还是在tell apart应该用被动语态,不是warbler自己去tell apart,而是被tell apart
作者: julia_ggw    时间: 2005-11-24 09:20

不过觉得其实e项的句子中心是不一样的:


(A) Unlike most warbler species, the male and female blue-winged warbler are very difficult to tell apart.


(E) Blue-winged warblers are unlike most species of warbler in that it is very difficult to tell the male and female apart.

觉得A强调他们的雌雄很难被辨认,而E项强调warblers和别的种类的w是不一样的。


作者: lyyforever    时间: 2006-3-9 17:36
以下是引用julia_ggw在2005-11-24 9:20:00的发言:

不过觉得其实e项的句子中心是不一样的:


(A) Unlike most warbler species, the male and female blue-winged warbler are very difficult to tell apart.


(E) Blue-winged warblers are unlike most species of warbler in that it is very difficult to tell the male and female apart.



觉得A强调他们的雌雄很难被辨认,而E项强调warblers和别的种类的w是不一样的。



我也有julia的困惑,所以选了D。请问D为什么不对?


作者: lyyforever    时间: 2006-3-9 17:37

(D) It is very difficult, unlike in most warbler species, to tell the male and female blue-winged warbler apart.


作者: quickgao    时间: 2006-4-14 23:43

(D)it不能和in most warbler species比较


作者: 顾风    时间: 2006-5-22 11:09
这不是一个好题,用in that明确是错的,如果说C的those指代不清,those至少是可以理解的,代替warblers
作者: kemu8018    时间: 2006-10-14 03:46

E中后面的it是指代谁?warbler吗?我怎么觉得它应该指代主句的主语blue-winged warblers呢。。。

 


作者: 盈儿    时间: 2006-10-29 00:45
以下是引用julia_ggw在2005-11-24 9:17:00的发言:
我觉得A项的错误主要还是在tell apart应该用被动语态,不是warbler自己去tell apart,而是被tell apart

It is OK to say:  ```are very difficult to tell apart.

I remember that there is a similar sentence in OG


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作者: FlowerJay    时间: 2006-11-1 02:34

这道题真变态阿!我觉得是XDF抄错题了,A少了一个s。。。大家觉得呢,我是不是在耍赖阿


作者: cmy2551    时间: 2007-3-26 23:06
以下是引用盈儿在2006-10-29 0:45:00的发言:

It is OK to say:  ```are very difficult to tell apart.

I remember that there is a similar sentence in OG


155. Federal authorities involved in the investigation have found the local witnesses are difficult to locate, reti­cent. and are suspicious of strangers.

(A)
                        
the local witnesses are difficult to locate, reti­cent, and are

(B)  local witnesses to be difficult to locate, reticent, and are

(C)
                        
that local witnesses are difficult to locate, reti­cent, and

(D)
                        
local witnesses are difficult to locate and reti­cent, and they are

(E)  that local witnesses are difficult to locate and
                reticent, and they are

local witnesses are difficult to locate 正确

local witnesses are difficult to be located 错误


作者: cmy2551    时间: 2007-3-26 23:29
以下是引用marylou在2005-10-20 16:49:00的发言:

A,Unlike most warbler species, the male and female blue-winged warbler 。。。

   不象大多数的warbler物种,这个雌雄warbler鸟.....

   物种与具体的动物不是同一级次。而且,一个抽象、一个具体

原先一直在这个误区里转悠,后来才觉得,可能这不是题目的考点,我的分析如下,请指教:

A:错在the male and female blue-winged warbler, 改成warblers变对
B:比较对象明显错误 warbler species 和the gender
C:错在THOSE指待不清楚
D:缺少比较对象,不可能把形式主语的IT和IN介词短语比较
E:虽然句子中心感觉有变化,但不造成大碍,IN THAT虽然很不顺眼但也有正确的时候,详见OG208
而IN THAT 和BECAUSE的显著区别就是,IN THAT 更书面化,在解释差异或说明有何特别之处时,in thatbecause更贴切


作者: easy4meeeeee    时间: 2007-7-10 18:16



A存在明显的歧义----尽管我们可以主观的理解为"雌雄兰翼鸟", 但是同样可以认为是 "男性 和 雌性兰翼鸟"

即: the male  and  female blue-winged warbler   

C选项存在同样错误

这让我想起了中学语文的典型歧义题, 比如: "大多数男性和女性科学家认为....."

哈, 其实出题的人都是一样思考滴~

从这个出发点看, E选项  
(E) Blue-winged warblers are unlike most species of
warbler in that it is very difficult to tell the
male and female apart.

刻意的避免了这样的错误, 即 把blue-winged warbler 和 male and female 分开了

所以, 个人认为这道题的考点就两个:

1. unlike的用法

2."the male andfemale blue-winged warbler"产生的歧义


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作者: Jessica1314    时间: 2007-11-2 22:01

这条题目的意思重点是在讨论性别是否能区分。

这条题目的解题关键是看前后是否对称。Most species of warbler  blue-winged warbler 对称.

(A)主谓不一致.the male and female blue-winged warbler 后面应该接is

(B)前后不对称,Most warbler species 和gender比

(C)前后不对称,those 可以理解成the male and female ones,而the male and female blue-winged warblers和those in most warbler species不对称.并且most warbler species应该改成Most species of warbler 

(D)显然错

(E)对称,Most species of warbler  blue-winged warblers 对称


作者: leo-liu    时间: 2008-6-23 21:49
以下是引用easy4meeeeee在2007-7-10 18:16:00的发言:



A存在明显的歧义----尽管我们可以主观的理解为"雌雄兰翼鸟", 但是同样可以认为是 "男性 和 雌性兰翼鸟"

即: the male  and  female blue-winged warbler   

C选项存在同样错误

这让我想起了中学语文的典型歧义题, 比如: "大多数男性和女性科学家认为....."

哈, 其实出题的人都是一样思考滴~

从这个出发点看, E选项  
(E) Blue-winged warblers are unlike most species of
warbler in that it is very difficult to tell the
male and female apart.

刻意的避免了这样的错误, 即 把blue-winged warbler 和 male and female 分开了

所以, 个人认为这道题的考点就两个:

1. unlike的用法

2."the male andfemale blue-winged warbler"产生的歧义


NO NO NO

我不同意这个解释,我觉得这只是你自己的看法,A中不存在这样的歧义,男人和雌性warbler? 不认为有这种歧义


作者: leo-liu    时间: 2008-6-23 21:53

我觉得A中明显的错误只有warbler应该用复数形式

are difficult to tell apart是正确的

warbler species 和 warbler的对应该也不是问题,因为E选项中也用了这个对应,没有理由因为这个原因判定A错却判定E正确

所以A错就错在复数形式上了

E正确,E中的it指代to tell这个不定式


作者: cecila    时间: 2008-6-25 04:08

这题我在prep3里好像做到过啊,当时就是直接看对称的,一看就只有E了,而且再看in that在这里很舒服的,就像26楼说的那样,in that只有在这种语境下是最贴切的。所以1分钟之内就选定E了,prep答案说正确。这是俺难得做得这么快的题啊,所以稍微讲两句。

看来关键争议是很多人都觉得 most warbler species 和 the male and female blue-winged warbler 是对称的,我讲不清楚啦,但是第一遍读的时候就觉得是不对称的,反倒是看贴第二遍读的时候还犹豫了下,但是犹豫结果还是觉得不对称。我是女人的思维,不懂什么抽象具体种群个体的,就是读嘛:

和其他的W种群不同,蓝翅的W....读着多顺呀

和其他的W种群不同,男性的和女性的蓝翅的W....多别扭呀

和其他的W种群中的男性与女性成员不同,男性的和女性的蓝翅的W...这才对称了嘛

(请注意第3句中的名词 成员和W 看上去形式是两个名词,而实质成员就是warbler,所以反而对称,二句中看似都是Warbler,但Warbler和Warble指的群体是不对称的)


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