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作者: phdsucks    时间: 2007-11-20 06:34
标题: Fall 08 finance phd-school selection

Hi, forks.

Please give me some suggestions for my school selection-finance phd program (30 programs):

dream schools:

harvard/stanford/mit/warton/nyu/northwestern/chicago/berkeley

second class:

yale/duke/columbia/ucla/cornell/cmu

third class:

emory/austin/usc/wustl/rochester/unc/osu/purdue/umn

backups:

vanderbilt/gatech/uiuc/boston u/boston c/maryland/

background:

THU BE EE GPA 3.6

Vanderbilt University  MS CS GPA 3.6

Univeristy of Iowa MA Economics GPA 4.0

Boston University MBA GPA 4.0

Rutgers MS Operations Research and Statistics GPA 4.0

5 journal papers published, several under manuscripts. 2 national computer science patents,several years of TA, RA and Fellowship in US different schools。3rd place in US junior business achievement competition。4th place in US ITP business competition。2 years Full time job Microsoft. GMAT 750. Strong rls from US professors.

I hope at least I can get offers from 3rd class schools.

Bow to all!


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作者: fzxc613    时间: 2007-11-20 07:57

又一个传说中的 MASTER 学位收集者出现了。。。


作者: phdsucks    时间: 2007-11-20 09:41
i need your guys's suggestion. I plan to apply all of these schools. If I fail to get an offer from these schools, I will switch to apply marketing next time.
作者: ProfCPA    时间: 2007-11-20 10:45
You don't need your "third class" and "backup".
作者: phdsucks    时间: 2007-11-20 11:15
do you really think so? buddy?
作者: yuyuxiong    时间: 2007-11-20 11:20
以下是引用fzxc613在2007-11-20 7:57:00的发言:

又一个传说中的 MASTER 学位收集者出现了。。。

太可怕了,怎么有喜欢收集这个的。不过,很佩服,这么牛的人,其实真的不用那些什么third, backup了
作者: phdsucks    时间: 2007-11-20 11:34
one of my friends who is a finance phd in a 3rd class school told me that I should at least obtain 2 masters before I apply phd program, that's why i got these masters. actually, a school like emory/wustl is already good for me. i just want to make sure if i am competitive for these kinds of schools or i need more backups such as schools like UIowa, UMissouri, UMass, Rutgus
作者: financePHD    时间: 2007-11-20 12:27
backup就不用了,third class 选两,三个就行,NYU应该比berkeley难进多
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作者: phdsucks    时间: 2007-11-20 12:30
OK! NYU should be in dream schools. I agree.
作者: phdsucks    时间: 2007-11-20 12:45
could you please give me some suggestions about my 3rd class schools? which ones do you think are more competitive? I do appreciate your help!
作者: shuoben    时间: 2007-11-20 17:08
怎会有这么多的master...
作者: financePHD    时间: 2007-11-20 23:18
不好意思啊,你的third class我只申过一个,所以不是很清楚哪个竞争激烈。感觉austin, usc, rochester要比其他难进一些。
作者: timmylin    时间: 2007-11-21 01:46

i think emory is also a tough one


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作者: ProfCPA    时间: 2007-11-21 10:14

If money is not an issue, I think applying for all your "3rd tier" is not a bad idea.


作者: phdsucks    时间: 2007-11-21 10:45
no, money is not an issue. So you do not think I should apply backups?
作者: chrisf    时间: 2007-11-21 11:59

so many master degrees!

just wanna say WOW!


作者: joysource    时间: 2007-11-21 15:29
At this stage of your career, you should consider more about how to shine thru the doctoral program and way to become a productive professional, rather than too meticulous about the nuances between different programs. You know they're top-notched and you fit them well. That's enough.

作者: phdsucks    时间: 2007-11-22 02:07
so you mean i would not have any problem to get offers from my selected schools? your advice is quite good, but it is the questions I would think about at the second phase.

作者: timmylin    时间: 2007-11-22 13:48
太牛比了!没见过比你master更多的了。一定能有好offer
作者: tangyuehua    时间: 2007-11-23 04:20
看到这样的背景,都快无语了。集中申请dream schools and second class,留点机会给别人。哈哈
作者: timmylin    时间: 2007-11-23 14:04
apply all your selected schools and collet all the offers.
作者: fudenberg    时间: 2007-11-23 15:06
拜一下,想到欧洲杯了
作者: phdsucks    时间: 2007-11-24 02:59
why?
作者: barbie315    时间: 2007-11-24 23:55

我现在最不能看到这种帖子

严重打击我出国的信心

说句不好听的,我都想吐,你就那么喜欢读书吗,

那读完这个PHD要是还找不到facaulty

楼主还要再读4个PHD么

问别人,先问问你自己想干什么


作者: chiefgsws    时间: 2007-11-25 06:08

Have you taken any non mba style finance courses?

Your background is good,

but I don't think it very proper for finance phd.

To be honest,almost impossible for the first and second class.


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作者: timmylin    时间: 2007-11-25 08:02
25楼,non mba的finance是什么啊?是专门给finance phd students准备的?要是能修这样的课的话那本身也就是finance phd了,还申什么劲啊?莫非去农业经济系去读个什么农经finance?经济系本身没有finance的课,有的话也是banking and microecon什么的。不知道25楼所谓的课是什么课?
作者: yession    时间: 2007-11-25 08:36

I agree that LZ doesn't need to apply for backup schools.

Make sure that you complete your application, apply attentively. You will surely get at least an offer from top 3 tier schools. If possible, be prepared for interviews, your profile is strong enough.


作者: Farewell_Bye    时间: 2007-11-25 08:50
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作者: Farewell_Bye    时间: 2007-11-25 09:02
以下是引用timmylin在2007-11-25 7:57:00的发言:
24楼,你自己本身弱看人家眼红了吧?呵呵。楼主的背景在申请finance的phd里面算比较强的,但还不算最强的,你会发现还有mit,stanford等牛校的phd出来以后申请商学院finance phd的。那岂不是让你这样的红眼病更容易怕怕了?自己不够强就去努力。最看不上你这样的人。我也申请finance,我本人也3个美国master,和楼主背景很像。gmat 720,为什么读这么多master,因为自己当初弱,一个master申请不上,所以就读两个,读三个。自己没种就不要看别人眼红。    

      你有三个master ?? 你骗人!  再说了,不管谁,读这么多master,就是目标不明确.....不知道自己到底想干什么,浪费了这么多时间和精力.....肯定不是申请Finance PHD的都一堆master吧?强人是强人,不过不觉得浪费的时间太多了吗..就直接读个finance相关的master,不能直接申,最多也就读两个,辗转一下,然后就直接申请PHD不就得了...自己走这么多弯路,还说别人弱.....我也是"最看不上你这样的人" 不过看见还有这么多人,读了一堆master还要读,让我在master毕业之后申请L-S有点信心了..

     说归说,如果LZ最后去了Havard,我还是会佩服+羡慕死的!BLESS+加油!


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作者: timmylin    时间: 2007-11-25 15:27

it is not abnormal to have 3 masters at usa. why you feel strange? Since you see not much. Farewell-Bye, you are another guy who feel hopeless for your future. haha, say farewell to your phd application.

tell you another thing, two of my friend wants to apply finance phd too. he has MS in CS from PKU, MS in Math from Wake Forest, MS in Financial Engineering from CMU. gmat 740. hehe, he is even more stronger than I am. Are you feeling more anger at him just because he is more likely than you to get offer? the other guy is a little bit week. MS in Math and MA in Econ from SunySB. 2 master's degrees, so i bet you must like him better.


作者: timmylin    时间: 2007-11-25 15:37

BS in Math, PKU

MS in Math, Wake Forest

MA in Accounting, Wake Forest

MA in Econ, Tufts U

gmat 720.

what else do you want to know?


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作者: Farewell_Bye    时间: 2007-11-25 15:39
以下是引用timmylin在2007-11-25 15:37:00的发言:

see my previous message, i posted my background several weeks ago.

good luck. hehe

    it's gone! I can't find it! you post again for me!


作者: timmylin    时间: 2007-11-25 15:44
and I want to apply LZ's dream schools: harvard, stanford, mit, 1st class: NYU, Duke, Yale, 2nd class: Emory, 3rd class: Vanderbilt. others: NCSU, Uflorida, GSU, Purdue, Iowa.
作者: Farewell_Bye    时间: 2007-11-25 15:44
以下是引用timmylin在2007-11-25 15:37:00的发言:

BS in Math, PKU

MS in Math, Wake Forest

MA in Accounting, Wake Forest

MA in Econ, Tufts U

gmat 720.

what else do you want to know?


 

   你为什么不贴真实的信息?明明是Thu的!只有贴真实的信息,大家才可以帮助你选学校。


作者: timmylin    时间: 2007-11-25 15:46
hehe, whatever you say. come on! man. you like me? I feel bothering to tangle with you guy.
作者: timmylin    时间: 2007-11-25 15:47
以下是引用Farewell_Bye在2007-11-25 15:44:00的发言:

   你为什么不贴真实的信息?明明是Thu的!只有贴真实的信息,大家才可以帮助你选学校。

I do not need your kindly help. hehe, I know what I should do. hehe. never ask guys like you to evaluate my profile.


作者: archwizard    时间: 2007-11-25 20:52

居然吵起来了

你们丢不丢人啊


作者: wenson_zhou    时间: 2007-11-25 22:35
我们版一直都是和谐社会的代表了,怎么会出这种事情...
作者: Farewell_Bye    时间: 2007-11-25 23:44
以下是引用archwizard在2007-11-25 20:52:00的发言:

居然吵起来了

你们丢不丢人啊

     Never mind.it's absolutely an accident, hard to explain .and it meant nothing. keep going about the suggestion to LZ. Apologize for screwing up .
作者: kndx5    时间: 2007-11-25 23:45
真不敢相信一个连liar都不知道怎么写的人想要申请harvard和mit,悲哀啊

作者: Farewell_Bye    时间: 2007-11-25 23:46
以下是引用wenson_zhou在2007-11-25 22:35:00的发言:
我们版一直都是和谐社会的代表了,怎么会出这种事情...

     Won't happen again.

     I apologize..


作者: yession    时间: 2007-11-26 00:45
以下是引用Farewell_Bye在2007-11-25 23:46:00的发言:

     Won't happen again.

     I apologize..

Yeah, really no need to argue publicly here. Apply for whatever schools you want, since you have all rights to do that. Everybody has his own choice. For some people, it is no need to have many master degrees to apply for a PhD, for some, it means better chances to go to a top school or to do well in a top school. There is really no sure answer to whether it's worthwhile to have so many master degrees.

For finance phd application, it's really tough and competitive. I guess as more people are collecting masters in order to prepare themselves better for finance phd application, maybe soon it will become harder and harder for those who don't have an exceptional education background to get admitted.


作者: judydongxueni    时间: 2007-11-26 01:09

大家都是集思广益^_^

别伤了和气


作者: phdsucks    时间: 2007-11-26 07:21
... i wonder if banzhu could help to delete these unrelated messages? bow
作者: phdsucks    时间: 2007-11-26 07:25
以下是引用yession在2007-11-26 0:45:00的发言:

Yeah, really no need to argue publicly here. Apply for whatever schools you want, since you have all rights to do that. Everybody has his own choice. For some people, it is no need to have many master degrees to apply for a PhD, for some, it means better chances to go to a top school or to do well in a top school. There is really no sure answer to whether it's worthwhile to have so many master degrees.

For finance phd application, it's really tough and competitive. I guess as more people are collecting masters in order to prepare themselves better for finance phd application, maybe soon it will become harder and harder for those who don't have an exceptional education background to get admitted.

totally agree.


作者: Farewell_Bye    时间: 2007-11-26 08:34
以下是引用yession在2007-11-26 0:45:00的发言:

Yeah, really no need to argue publicly here. Apply for whatever schools you want, since you have all rights to do that. Everybody has his own choice. For some people, it is no need to have many master degrees to apply for a PhD, for some, it means better chances to go to a top school or to do well in a top school. There is really no sure answer to whether it's worthwhile to have so many master degrees.

For finance phd application, it's really tough and competitive. I guess as more people are collecting masters in order to prepare themselves better for finance phd application, maybe soon it will become harder and harder for those who don't have an exceptional education background to get admitted.

     These definitely are not the reasons for the quarrel thing, it's totally personal and misunderstood! Totally my Fault !I though he is someone else (one of my old friends )so i thought he lied here. but it turns out to be all my fault. I misunderstood!

    Not really related to the application! it's not a big deal though! keep helping "PHDsucks"

    who can delete those unnecessary messages ? we need some mop to clear the place!


作者: shentao    时间: 2007-11-26 12:38
标题: 回复:(phdsucks)Fall 08 finance phd-school selec...

得过奥赛金牌嘛? I think THU is a much bigger name than any school you've been in US and 奥赛金牌 is a huge plus!

I got two master degrees in US, but it just makes me feel like a loser. I looked through the student profiles in UCLA,Kellogg, Yale etc. they seem to prefer the bachelors who graduated from top-notch schools in US with the Summa Cum Laude. Another common sense is that the real cowbees rarely 回帖. Dont expect an answer from here. But I think you should try top 15 schools and it is not a big surprise that you get a dozen of offers, or denied by all.


作者: ProfCPA    时间: 2007-11-27 02:26
以下是引用timmylin在2007-11-25 15:50:00的发言:

you say me lier? you are fucking much confused bitch lier asshole pussy

It is a shame that this kind of post was ever posted here. Please show your respect here to others.
作者: fzxc613    时间: 2007-11-28 05:28

同意楼上的,这人在读多少个MASTER还是一样。 要做学问先做人。难以想象这是一个CDER能说出来的。


作者: joysource    时间: 2007-11-28 08:06
以下是引用kndx5在2007-11-25 23:45:00的发言:
真不敢相信一个连liar都不知道怎么写的人想要申请harvard和mit,悲哀啊

作者: chiefgsws    时间: 2007-11-29 18:13

i think your background is better than your friends

math + econ >cs +mfe for phd in finance,

but if i can land a job on wall street

I will not consider a damn phd at all.

It's not that sexy as you might think.


作者: shentao    时间: 2007-11-30 13:35
以下是引用chiefgsws在2007-11-29 18:13:00的发言:

i think your background is better than your friends

math + econ >cs +mfe for phd in finance,

but if i can land a job on wall street

I will not consider a damn phd at all.

It's not that sexy as you might think.

Totally agree

It hasnt been wall street's year






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