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作者: dreadpower    时间: 2003-11-28 21:52
标题: [求助]请教大全31
31.A star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass.
(A)A star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass.
(B) After passing through a red giant stage, depending on its mass, a star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.
(D) Mass determines whether a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.

     答案是D,没问题
     这里对分词的修饰产生了疑问
    (1):选项A中其他错误都不管,depending on mass可以修饰那些??优先修饰哪个??
     (2):选项B中其他错误都不管,depending on its mass修饰什么??
      
      语法上是不是应该是这样:分词在句首,修饰主语,逻辑主语=句子主语
                                          分词在句中,修饰最靠近的名词,
      分词在句末,可以做伴随动作,逻辑主语=句子主语
                         或做伴随结果,有因果关系
      那分词在句末,语法上是否可以修饰前面的名词????
      例如:In the fall of 1985, only 10 percent of the women entering college planned to major in education, while 28 percent chose business, making it the most popular major for women as well as for men.
      这里的making单纯从语法的角度考虑(不出于逻辑考虑),能不能修饰business
作者: bigcamel    时间: 2003-11-29 01:06
我的看法是:a中depending on mass 优先修饰after it passes through...
b中depneding on its mass 是一个所谓的摇摆结构,即可修饰前句,也可修饰后据,所以不好
粉刺在句么,若前面有逗号,应修饰前面的句子
作者: dreadpower    时间: 2003-11-29 10:25
那就是说In the fall of 1985, only 10 percent of the women entering college planned to major in education, while 28 percent chose business, making it the most popular major for women as well as for men,这里的making绝对不能修饰不能修饰business,对吗??
作者: bigcamel    时间: 2003-11-29 10:46
我是这么认为
作者: dreadpower    时间: 2003-11-29 10:52
谢谢BIGCAMEL指点,我回去找点例子来看
作者: joe11    时间: 2004-12-6 22:36

depending on its mass 是如何 swing 的呢?

谁可能是 depending 的逻辑主语呢?如果是 a star, 那么,

A star depending on a star's mass, a star will compress itself into ... 逻辑上合理么?


作者: LES    时间: 2004-12-6 22:51

B) After passing through a red giant stage, depending on its mass, a star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.

这个选项是典型的:"squinting modifier"修饰,请参考OG245的解释:

245. Unlike Schoenberg’s twelve-tone system that dominated the music of the postwar period, Bartok founded no school and left behind only a handful of disciples.

(A) Schoenberg’s twelve-tone system that dominated
(B) Schoenberg and his twelve-tone system which dominated
(C) Schoenberg, whose twelve-tone system dominated
(D) the twelve-tone system of Schoenberg that has dominatedC
(E) Schoenberg and the twelve-tone system, dominating

C, the best answer, is the only choice that makes a logical comparison: Unlike Schoenberg,... Bartok. In A, B, and D, Bartok, a person, is compared either to Schoenberg’s twelve-tone system or to Schoenberg and his twelve-tone system as a unit. Such comparisons are neither logically sound nor semantically parallel. Consequently, A and D illogically suggest that Schoenberg’s twelve-tone system founded a school and left behind many disciples. Choice B suggests that Schoenberg and his twelve-tone system together accomplished these feats. In E, the comparison is illogical and the modification is ambiguous. Schoenberg and his system, as a unit, are not only compared to Bartok, an individual, but also credited with having formed a school. The verb phrase dominating... is called a “squinting modifier (a modifier (as often in *getting dressed often is a nuisance*) so placed in a sentence that it can be interpreted as modifying either what precedes or what follows)” because it looks in both directions: given the structure of the sentence, it could be meant to modify either Schoenberg and the twelve-tone system or Bartok.


作者: joe11    时间: 2004-12-6 23:37

LES 太cool 了, 欧的 OG 还是读得不够呀。

谢谢谢谢!!


作者: littlemuddie    时间: 2004-12-7 06:33
谢谢 LES 的教导。厉害!
作者: lilyzy    时间: 2005-1-22 17:42
谢谢LES, 也解了我的疑问.
作者: 番茄笑了    时间: 2005-6-3 22:30
squinting modifier 用中文说这个叫做什么词啊?我在字典上查,squinting是斜视的意思!?
作者: amacd    时间: 2005-9-6 23:12

LES is awesome~~


thanks alot


作者: openmind    时间: 2005-10-21 17:12

Thanks, LES.


You are my hero!!


作者: liaijun_2001    时间: 2005-10-31 14:54

(A)A star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass.
depending on mass为什么不能理解为优先做伴随结构,修饰A star?如果这样的话,A似乎没有问题了!
(D) Mass determines whether a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.


而D中似乎改变了原来的句子重心(原来的主句变成了宾语从句了)?


作者: captain_ma    时间: 2006-10-4 23:35
我很奇怪为什么a不对?
作者: joejo9    时间: 2007-5-5 23:22
同问a为什么不可以
作者: joejo9    时间: 2007-5-5 23:24
还有,同问搂主的这个问题“分词在句末,语法上是否可以修饰前面的名词????

作者: joejo9    时间: 2007-5-6 15:01

顶一下,上面的疑惑我在很多地方都碰到:(


作者: lloottuuss    时间: 2007-5-30 10:58

(D) Mass determines whether a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.

为什么after passing through the red giant stage不会被误解为修饰Mass?

(C) After passing through a red giant stage, a star’s mass will determine if it compresses itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.和(E) The mass of a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will determine whether it compresses itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.在官方解释里被拒的理由就是after passing through the red giant stage被误解修饰Mass呢?


作者: tendgrr    时间: 2007-6-3 21:17

我选的是B,也和楼上有一样的疑惑


作者: vivian_huang    时间: 2007-8-21 23:13
以下是引用LES在2004-12-6 22:51:00的发言:

B) After passing through a red giant stage, depending on its mass, a star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.

这个选项是典型的:"squinting modifier"修饰,请参考OG245的解释:

245. Unlike Schoenberg’s twelve-tone system that dominated the music of the postwar period, Bartok founded no school and left behind only a handful of disciples.

(A) Schoenberg’s twelve-tone system that dominated
(B) Schoenberg and his twelve-tone system which dominated
(C) Schoenberg, whose twelve-tone system dominated
(D) the twelve-tone system of Schoenberg that has dominatedC
(E) Schoenberg and the twelve-tone system, dominating

C, the best answer, is the only choice that makes a logical comparison: Unlike Schoenberg,... Bartok. In A, B, and D, Bartok, a person, is compared either to Schoenberg’s twelve-tone system or to Schoenberg and his twelve-tone system as a unit. Such comparisons are neither logically sound nor semantically parallel. Consequently, A and D illogically suggest that Schoenberg’s twelve-tone system founded a school and left behind many disciples. Choice B suggests that Schoenberg and his twelve-tone system together accomplished these feats. In E, the comparison is illogical and the modification is ambiguous. Schoenberg and his system, as a unit, are not only compared to Bartok, an individual, but also credited with having formed a school. The verb phrase dominating... is called a “squinting modifier (a modifier (as often in *getting dressed often is a nuisance*) so placed in a sentence that it can be interpreted as modifying either what precedes or what follows)” because it looks in both directions: given the structure of the sentence, it could be meant to modify either Schoenberg and the twelve-tone system or Bartok.
  

实在很棒,ding起来给后人再多读读


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作者: vivian_huang    时间: 2007-8-21 23:27

同问,A为什么错?

31    star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass.

(A) A star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole after it passes through a red giant stage, depending on mass.[
            
分词在句末,可以做伴随动作,逻辑主语=句子主语或做伴随结果,有因果关系,没有看出A为什么错。。]

(B) After passing through a red giant stage, depending on its mass, a star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole. [参照OG 245的批判:黄色标出的部分is called a “squinting modifier”,引起修饰对象的歧义,既可修饰前面的stage,也可以修饰后面的a black hole]

(C) After passing through a red giant stage(错误修饰后面的中心词mass), a star’s mass will determine if it compresses itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.

(D) Mass determines whether a star, after passing through the red giant stage, will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.D

(E) The mass of a star, after passing through the red giant stage错误修饰mass, will determine whether it compresses itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.

解题思路:BCE选项的分词部分或介词引导的成分,放在句子中间,产生修饰对象可前可后的歧义;A选项为何不选未解??
                                

考点:修辞,分词引导或介词引导成分位于句中的修饰歧义
                                    


作者: margaret1970    时间: 2007-8-22 02:55
 分词在句末,可以做伴随动作.表结果
作者: vivian_huang    时间: 2007-8-22 13:26

还是不明白,可以麻烦说的再详细一些吗?


作者: ustchero    时间: 2007-9-17 23:47
标题: 回复:(lloottuuss)(D) Mass determines whether a ...
因为DE选项中“after passing through the red giant stage”所处的位置不同,D的“after passing through the red giant stage”是weather的一部分,然后才是主句,E的“after passing through the red giant stage”是主句的一部分,the mass是主语的中心词。
作者: 混乱思维    时间: 2008-8-27 03:31
只能说D答案是语法错误最少的,符合OG原则没有最对,只有最好。但我记得OG和白勇里说尽量不改变句子结构,所以没敢选D。
作者: iser    时间: 2008-10-29 21:35

OG对此题的解释如下

黄色部分是关于"squinting modifier"修饰的说明,也就是我们常说的“夹心”,相关讨论和总结挺多的。

Choice A is ambiguous because the grammatical function of depending on mass is uncertain: the phrase could modify either the whole preceding statement or only the words after it passes through a red giant stage. In the latter case, choice A states in effect that a star depends on its mass as it passes through this phase, not the fate of the star depends on the star’s mass. Choice B suffers from the same ambiguity. Choices C and E illogically maintain that the star’s mass, not star itself, passes through the red giant stage to assume another form. Choice D is the correct answer for this difficult question.

不明白的是关于红色部分,被绕糊涂了,这两种说法有啥差别??


作者: lcy19812000    时间: 2009-1-1 03:51

还有D选项wheater从句中的its,按语法优先指代主句主语,也就是mass。但是按逻辑理解是指代star。

这也是改变句子重心之后造成的不良后果。


作者: lcy19812000    时间: 2009-1-1 16:31

说说我对此题的总体理解:

A.“,depending on mass”作条件状语,表示一件事是在什么条件下完成的。但是问题是它从语法上有两件事可以修饰,就造成了歧异。1、整句:star compress;2、就近的条件状语从句:it(star) pass through a stage

B.“,depending on mass”同样是这个问题。可以理解为修饰前面所说的那件事,使第二个逗号前的内容组成一个完整的条件状语,也可以看作单独修饰后面那一件事,此时主句star compress前面有两个状语,第一个是时间状语:after pass through a stage之后,第二个状语是说:还要depending on mass;

C和E的主句主语是mass,并且从句没有单独定义新的主语,使从句中出现的代词it/itself只能指代mass,错。

D的主句主语是mass,从句主语是star,按语法优先指代主句主语,也就是mass。但是按逻辑理解是指代star。这也是改变句子重心之后造成的不良后果。

矮子当中拔高子,选D。


作者: lcy19812000    时间: 2009-1-1 16:49
以下是引用LES在2004-12-6 22:51:00的发言:

B) After passing through a red giant stage, depending on its mass, a star will compress itself into a white dwarf, a neutron star, or a black hole.

这个选项是典型的:"squinting modifier"修饰,请参考OG245的解释:

245. Unlike Schoenberg’s twelve-tone system that dominated the music of the postwar period, Bartok founded no school and left behind only a handful of disciples.

(A) Schoenberg’s twelve-tone system that dominated
(B) Schoenberg and his twelve-tone system which dominated
(C) Schoenberg, whose twelve-tone system dominated
(D) the twelve-tone system of Schoenberg that has dominatedC
(E) Schoenberg and the twelve-tone system, dominating

C, the best answer, is the only choice that makes a logical comparison: Unlike Schoenberg,... Bartok. In A, B, and D, Bartok, a person, is compared either to Schoenberg’s twelve-tone system or to Schoenberg and his twelve-tone system as a unit. Such comparisons are neither logically sound nor semantically parallel. Consequently, A and D illogically suggest that Schoenberg’s twelve-tone system founded a school and left behind many disciples. Choice B suggests that Schoenberg and his twelve-tone system together accomplished these feats. In E, the comparison is illogical and the modification is ambiguous. Schoenberg and his system, as a unit, are not only compared to Bartok, an individual, but also credited with having formed a school. The verb phrase dominating... is called a “squinting modifier (a modifier (as often in *getting dressed often is a nuisance*) so placed in a sentence that it can be interpreted as modifying either what precedes or what follows)” because it looks in both directions: given the structure of the sentence, it could be meant to modify either Schoenberg and the twelve-tone system or Bartok.

本题E中"dominating..."向前是作定语,没问题。

但是向后我觉得从语义和语法上都既可以作状语,又可以做定语:

作状语是讲在dominating...的条件/情况/背景下,brotok做了什么事。这样的解释是肯定符合分词在句首作状语的规则的。

作定语是说bartok这个人是一个领导者(dominating),这样是讲得通的。虽然分词放在句首作定语的例子我不多见,但本题OG的解释还是认可的,并且前面的一部分NN们也倾向于这种理解。

所以,从技术上讲,本题看到了分词作定语和状语的模糊地带,要想清楚,还是从句好啊。

还要罗唆最后一句:感谢LES NN!!!真的很棒很棒很棒!!!


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作者: JohnnyZhu    时间: 2009-1-2 17:13
LES牛
作者: Xclann    时间: 2009-7-10 05:28
thanks,LES!!
作者: elaine1031    时间: 2009-7-10 10:29

多谢教导阿。。






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