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作者: tylergu 时间: 2007-8-26 05:54
标题: 关于Kellogg不能waive TOEFL

刚刚发现kellogg不能waive toefl for u.s. graduate students，这个在magic7是唯一不能waiver的

请问在美国毕业准备申请的弟兄有什么打算？现在离round1 deadline只有一月，难道再费精力去考toefl？而且为了一个kellogg考toefl也很不值的

一朋友发email问adcom，告之不可waive，必须考toefl

想听听大家有什么打算？

有个naive的想法，发email去争取争取，像7月的移民法案一样，不知道有没有效...

link

http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/admissions/admissions/faq.htm#international

Who is required to take the TOEFL?
All non-US Citizens or non-US Permanent Residents who received their undergraduate degree from an institution where English was not the only language of instruction must submit a TOEFL score. The Office of Admissions reserves the right to request a TOEFL score from applicants if deemed necessary

作者: asupls 时间: 2007-8-26 10:20

以下是引用tylergu在2007-8-26 5:54:00的发言：

刚刚发现kellogg不能waive toefl for u.s. graduate students，这个在magic7是唯一不能waiver的

请问在美国毕业准备申请的弟兄有什么打算？现在离round1 deadline只有一月，难道再费精力去考toefl？而且为了一个kellogg考toefl也很不值的

一朋友发email问adcom，告之不可waive，必须考toefl

想听听大家有什么打算？

有个naive的想法，发email去争取争取，像7月的移民法案一样，不知道有没有效...

link

http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/admissions/admissions/faq.htm#international

Who is required to take the TOEFL?
All non-US Citizens or non-US Permanent Residents who received their undergraduate degree from an institution where English was not the only language of instruction must submit a TOEFL score. The Office of Admissions reserves the right to request a TOEFL score from applicants if deemed necessary

It said an institution where English was not the only language of instruction. I think this requirement is quite common among top schools, isn't it?

作者: tylergu 时间: 2007-8-26 10:54

以下是引用asupls在2007-8-26 10:20:00的发言：

It said an institution where English was not the only language of instruction. I think this requirement is quite common among top schools, isn't it?

这个在magic7是唯一不能waiver的

harvard strong recommend TOEFL, not required

作者: qxh107 时间: 2007-8-29 03:42
Just sent an email to Kellogg admission. Followings are part of my email and their reply:

My email:
Dear Admission Officer, thank
you very much for your reply. Although I understand English proficiency
is very important for admitting international applicants, I am very
disappointed about this inflexible policy. Among all top B-schools, this
is the only case. Other schools have more flexible rules about
this. For example:

As an international student, I was studying and working in XXXXXX
for 5 years. I met many international students who had problems of
language barrier for their study, even though they had very good TOEFL
scores.

I had a very good TOEFL score when I was admitted to the Ph.D. program
from XXXXXX University. But as a teaching assistant, I had to pass
the English test hosted by Pennsylvania State University before I could
accomplish my TA assignment.

In addition, I am a Canadian permanent resident living in a country where
English is the official language. Do I have to take the TOEFL to prove my
English proficiency?

I am a Ph.D. of XXXXXX. English proficiency is the basic
requirement for that major. The rigid rule from Kellogg is not so
reasonable. It will stop many qualified applicants.

Hope to hear your advice about this.

Their reply:

Hi Ellen and Kathy,

Just wanting you to see how some of the applicants are responding who
have been educated in English at the graduate level. I understand
your reasoning, though.

Luann

我同时CC一份给他们的DEAN, 不知道他会不会看到, 只是希望引起他的注意. 我觉得有相同经历的可以发信给他们, 觉得还是可以有所改变的.

作者: flann 时间: 2007-8-29 07:23

我曾经给kellogg发过email问过这件事情，他们说可以waive啊。

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Re: About TOEFL waiver

From:
Luann Superson

Sent:

Mon 5/07/07 12:46 PM

To:


You do not need to request a TOEFL waiver if you already have a
graduate degree from a U.S. institution. Did you apply yet? I do
not see your name in our database. Thanks.


Luann


At 11:14 AM 5/4/2007, you wrote:
>Dear Kellogg admissions,
>
>I checked your website and found out that, to waive the TOEFL score,
>international applicants need to receive a university degree in one
>of the following countries: Australia, Canada (not including
>Quebec), England, Ireland, New Zealand, Scotland, South Africa and Wales.
>
>However, I received my M.S. in U.S.. While U.S. is not in the
>country list, is it safe for me to assume that I can still have the
>TOEFL waiver?
>
>Thank you.
>
>Best,

作者: amorela 时间: 2007-8-29 17:41

我记得以前问过HARVARD的人,他们也说在英语国家拿到学历的,可以不考,但是强烈建议考.

而且可以拿雅思去代替.

哥大是明确说了可以不考的.

西北是一定要的,最新问到的情况如下:

发件人 : Luann Superson <l-superson@kellogg.northwestern.edu>
发送 : 2007年8月29日 13:59:31
收件人 :
主题 : Re: FW: a question about the application
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Hi Flora,

The criteria for TOEFL exemption have changed, and instruction in English at the graduate level no longer qualifies for exemption. The educational criterion for exemption is instruction in English at the Bachelor's level. I apologize for the inconvenience.

Luann

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