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作者: joywzy 时间: 2003-11-23 11:00
标题: ＯＧ142
142. In one of the most stunning reversals in the history of marketing, the Coca-Cola company in July 1985 yielded to thousands of irate consumers demanding that it should bring back the original Coke formula.
demanding that it should
demanding it to
and their demand to
who demanded that it
who demanded it to
Choice D, the best answer, uses the grammatically correct expression demanded that it bring back, in which demanded that it is followed by the subjunctive verb bring. Choice A incorrectly uses should bring rather than bring: demanding that already conveys the idea of "should," and at any rate a modal auxiliary verb, such as should or must, cannot grammatically follow the expression demanded that. Similarly, B and E use the ungrammatical expression demanding/demanded it to. In C, the expression yielded to... customers and their demand to bring... unnecessarily states that the company yielded to the customers as well as to their demand. This expression also fails to specify that the company is expected to bring back the original formula.

D/E的用法都对啊？为何OG说：Similarly, B and E use the ungrammatical expression demanding/demanded it to.

谢谢。

作者: gemj 时间: 2003-11-23 12:57
字典上只有demanded that，而没有demanded sb to do的用法：

Angry demonstrators demanded the resignation of two senior officials. demand to

know/see/have etc something
I demand to know what's going on.

demand that
They demanded that the military government free all political prisoners.

demand something of somebody
It seemed that no matter what she did, more was demanded of her.
'Where are you going?' she demanded angrily.

作者: nikema 时间: 2003-11-23 13:37
Gemj:
We wish you still give us a hand. thk very much!

作者: gemj 时间: 2003-11-23 15:51
好的，我会尽我所能。

作者: joywzy 时间: 2003-11-26 12:19

以下是引用gemj在2003-11-23 12:57:00的发言：
字典上只有demanded that，而没有demanded sb to do的用法：

Angry demonstrators demanded the resignation of two senior officials. demand to

know/see/have etc something
I demand to know what's going on.

demand that
They demanded that the military government free all political prisoners.

demand something of somebody
It seemed that no matter what she did, more was demanded of her.
'Where are you going?' she demanded angrily.

gemj,感谢你啊。

作者: tyghbn 时间: 2004-3-21 07:01
in D, the "it" doesn't agree with "bring". if D is right, it should say "... who demanded that it brings back..."

am i missing something here?

作者: JerryGuan 时间: 2004-3-21 19:37

以下是引用tyghbn在2004-3-21 7:01:00的发言：
in D, the "it" doesn't agree with "bring". if D is right, it should say "... who demanded that it brings back..."

am i missing something here?

这里demand后面的从句是虚拟语气，必须省略should，用原形动词！

作者: tyghbn 时间: 2004-3-22 00:25
thanks!

so the next logical question will be: are all the "从句" which follow word "demand" using "虚拟语气", irredardless of what context are?

作者: cmtn 时间: 2004-5-21 07:03
as I know yes.

作者: sunshining 时间: 2004-7-5 02:10

虚拟语气一定不能用should吗？我记得好像是可用可不用的

金山词霸里查demand，有例句：

I demand that one of you (should) go there at once. 我要求你们中间一人立即到那里去! (美国用法省略should)

那这样的化，选项A为什么不对？

作者: bloodcherry 时间: 2004-8-23 23:23

以下是引用sunshining在2004-7-5 2:10:00的发言：

虚拟语气一定不能用should吗？我记得好像是可用可不用的

金山词霸里查demand，有例句：

I demand that one of you (should) go there at once. 我要求你们中间一人立即到那里去! (美国用法省略should)

那这样的化，选项A为什么不对？

ETS考的就是M国用法ha

作者: wendywheel 时间: 2004-11-27 12:24
In OG, it says that Choice A incorrectly uses 'should bring' rather than 'bring': 'demanding that' already conveys the idea of 'should', and at any rate a modal auxiliary verb (情态动词), such as 'should' or 'must,' cannot grammatically follow the expression 'demand that.' It is the same with 'require that,' as OG-138 (A).

作者: besideMars 时间: 2005-7-20 17:29

我想问的是：A/B的demanding有没有修饰对象的歧异，是修饰consumer or Coca-Cola Co.

这种分词修饰名词那些算歧异那些服从就近原则，一直比较晕，NN HELP!!

作者: besideMars 时间: 2005-7-22 19:18
顶顶

作者: 曼天飞舞 时间: 2005-7-22 19:51
OG说他WORDY她就WORDY，OG说的都是对的，OG说得都是要遵守的。其他的仙暂时忘了，考完了再说。我们这么辛苦不就是为了GAOFEN 嘛！

作者: ustoday 时间: 2005-8-16 11:55

我覺得這題是限定修飾所以應該修飾最近的(N) 難道限定修飾也有跳躍修飾S的機會媽

請MM指教

作者: momoyu 时间: 2005-9-20 21:51
is A corret if without shoud?

作者: julia_ggw 时间: 2005-10-21 04:38
我觉得A去掉should还是不对，题干里面有明确的时间1985，那么demanded要准确得多。

作者: huaxinzhu 时间: 2006-1-3 02:18

同样的问题

作者: jchen924 时间: 2006-8-10 18:13
关于demand的用法，看了gemj的解释，好帖阿

作者: sue2006 时间: 2006-8-14 04:38

can you tell me wherethe gemj的解释 is ?

作者: liuyang1984 时间: 2006-9-22 12:03

楼上的，在第一页的帖子

同意，去掉should还是不对，因为

“-ING分词短语作定语：强调动作的多次性、重复性、客观性，无明确的时间概念；

定语从句作：强调动作的一次性，强调具体时间，具体行为。”

———摘自《GMAT语法全解》（白勇）103页

OG里面很多关于这个点的例子了，不再赘述。

作者: FlowerJay 时间: 2006-9-22 17:52
我觉得demanding用的也不好，可是OG没有提。。demanding表示的是强调一个持续性状态，但是这里customer后面应该跟的是解释说明。大家认为呢？

作者: KATIEUS 时间: 2006-12-29 16:26

agree！

作者: ghostzpy 时间: 2007-3-3 01:55
为什么不选C. OG的解释是 consumers and their demand is redundant. Why?

作者: goyce36 时间: 2008-7-14 22:19
请问，it这里指代什么？

作者: zjpopo 时间: 2008-8-10 12:27
标题: 有关分词、定从、介词短语修饰问题的疑惑？

以下是引用liuyang1984在2006-9-22 12:03:00的发言：

楼上的，在第一页的帖子

同意，去掉should还是不对，因为

“-ING分词短语作定语：强调动作的多次性、重复性、客观性，无明确的时间概念；

定语从句作：强调动作的一次性，强调具体时间，具体行为。”

———摘自《GMAT语法全解》（白勇）103页

OG里面很多关于这个点的例子了，不再赘述。

Dear，有关语法书里关于介词短语、定从和分词修饰的概念我自己有所掌握。

但是具体到这个题目，如果是变换为以下3种形式，可否请楼主翻译并解释具体差异？

感激不尽！！！

体会区别: 三个表示限制修饰的形式

1. thousands of irate consumers demanding that

2. thousands of irate consumers with the demand that

3. thousands of irate consumers who demanded that

作者: 小烟 时间: 2009-6-6 19:17

总结一下

In one of ——OG11

Choice D——OG10

对比OG10和OG11这道题有以下几点要注意——自己的补充

55． In one of the most stunning reversals in the history of marketing，the Coca-Cola company in July 1985 yielded to thousands of irate consumers demanding that it should bring back the original Coke formula.

(A) demanding that it should

(B) demanding it to

(D) who demanded that it

(E) who demanded it to

Verb form + Grammatical construction

The use of the subjunctive is relatively infrequent in English；this sentence is an instance when it must be used.
When a that clause follows a verb such as ask, recommend，request，or demand, the subjunctive (formed from the base form of the verb，such as be or bring) is used in the clause．Thus，the correct use of the subjunctive here is consumers who demanded that it bring．．．．

A The construction requires the subjunctive；the use of should is incorrect．

B Demanding it to bring is not a grammatically correct construction．

C Using both consumers and their demand is redundant．

D Correct．In this sentence，the subjunctive bring correctly follows demanded that it．

E Demanded it to bring is not a grammatically correct construction．

The correct answer is D．

OG10TH的解释——Choice D, the best answer, uses the grammatically correct expression demanded that it bring back, in which demanded that it is followed by the subjunctive verb bring. Choice A incorrectly uses should bring rather than bring: demanding that already conveys the idea of "should," and at any rate a modal auxiliary verb, such as should or must, cannot grammatically follow the expression demanded that. Similarly, B and E use the ungrammatical expression demanding/demanded it to. In C, the expression yielded to... customers and their demand to bring... unnecessarily states that the company yielded to the customers as well as to their demand. This expression also fails to specify that the company is expected to bring back the original formula.

对比OG10和OG11这道题有以下几点要注意的：

1, yield to demand [n]

2, demand [v]

3, demanding & who demanded 现在分词作定语
4, deamnd 等一系列词后面的虚拟语气

1, yield (up) sth to sb; In C, the expression yielded to... customers and their demand to bring... unnecessarily states that the company yielded to the customers as well as to their demand. C Using both consumers and their demand is redundant．因为consumer and the demand 在逻辑上是一回事。This expression also fails to specify that the company is expected to bring back the original formula.因为consumer demanded company 和company is expected by customers 才是最终点明the stunning reversals 的关键。

2，demand 作动词三种用法：demand sth

to do sth

that sb (should) do sth

没有B和E中的
demand sb to do sth.

3, A.B中的demanding 属于非谓语动词中的现在分词作在名词后面做定语。作用相当于定语从句，还原成定语从句时，谓语动词有两种时态：一般现在时和现在进行时。就是说如果此处demanding 是成立是则要么可以还原成consumers who demand 要么可以还原成consumers who is demanding. 但是主句中的时间状语July 1985 和谓语动词yield to 都说明这个地方如果用定语从句应该用一般过去时who demanded.所以A.B不成立。

4，如果说OG10还没有点明这道题的主考点的话，其实在OG11中已经说的很明确了。The use of the subjunctive is relatively infrequent in English；this sentence is an instance when it must be used. When a “that clause” follows a verb such as ask, recommend，request，or demand, the subjunctive (formed from the base form of the verb，such as be or bring) is used in the clause．我们最不能理解的是，高中英语中说“should”在这里是可要可不要的。但是在美国人的用法里面一般是省略“should”的。如果还不能接受，OG10 给出的美国人的理解demanding that already conveys the idea of "should," and at any rate a modal auxiliary verb, such as should or must, cannot grammatically follow the expression demanded that.即情态动词的已经包含在上述一系列词语的义素中了，如果再使用就重复了。这一点张道真实用英语语法中10.3.1-3)也给出了说明。扩张一下这一类词包括：suggest demand insist ask advise propose urge vote request command desire move order recommend require decree intend pertition

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作者: LALI 时间: 2010-10-27 09:40
弱问一句~这里的it指代什么啊？是coca-cola company吗？

作者: princesue 时间: 2011-4-17 21:48
引用27楼，A.B中的demanding 属于非谓语动词中的现在分词作在名词后面做定语。作用相当于定语从句，还原成定语从句时，谓语动词有两种时态：一般现在时和现在进行时。就是说如果此处demanding 是成立是则要么可以还原成consumers who demand 要么可以还原成consumers who is demanding. 但是主句中的时间状语July 1985 和谓语动词yield to 都说明这个地方如果用定语从句应该用一般过去时who demanded.所以A.B不成立。

这个解释有些误导，demanding 本身是没有错的，只是容易引起歧义——即不知道demanding的主语是the Coca-Cola company还是consumers，所以改为从句会更清楚一些。

从语法上，虚拟语气用should是没有问题的，至少不能算错，只是GMAT讲求concise的原则，所以能不用最好不用。

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