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作者: solome    时间: 2003-11-23 00:50
标题: og 143 一点疑惑
143. Recently discovered fossil remains strongly suggest that the Australian egg-
laying mammals of today are a branch of the main stem of mammalian evolution
rather than developing independently from a common ancestor of mammals more
than 220 million years ago.

A. rather than developing independently from
B. rather than a type that developed independently from
C. rather than a type whose development was independent of
D. instead of developing independently from
E.instead of a development that was independent of

此题b/c选项都没有问题,唯一的判断标准就是句意,我只是凭感觉的觉得是B,觉得原文想要说的意思是B,但是具体的理由说不清楚,觉得随意性很大。
请指教此种类型如何判断句意。
我的意思是我知道这道题B/C的区别在哪,我想知道如何判断作者说的是B,不是C



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作者: scjp2000    时间: 2003-11-23 01:00
.... In C, the expression a type whose development was independent of a common ancestor states the opposite of the original point_that the type of mammal mentioned was thought to have developed independently of the main stem of mammalian evolution, but still to have descended from a common ancestor(两句话表达的意思完全不同,区别在于是不是同一个祖先).... FROM <>
作者: solome    时间: 2003-11-23 01:27
谢谢scjp2000:)

我知道,我知道B/C的区别,我想问的是如何知道原文想表达的是B,而不是C
作者: gemj    时间: 2003-11-23 01:39
以下是引用solome在2003-11-23 1:27:00的发言:
谢谢scjp2000:)

我知道,我知道B/C的区别,我想问的是如何知道原文想表达的是B,而不是C

这个好说,因为后面表达的意思应该是与前面的相反的:
strongly suggest that the Australian egg-laying mammals of today are a branch of the main stem of mammalian evolution
前面说是a branch of the main stem of mammalian evolution,主干中的一支(系出名门啊)。后面的意思当然就应该是非嫡系所出。
作者: sbbi    时间: 2003-11-23 01:41
以前讨论过的,搜一把吧.
作者: gemj    时间: 2003-11-23 01:41
B. rather than a type that developed independently from
C. rather than a type whose development was independent of
但说实话我对B、C意思上的差异虽然明白,但对于如何出现了这种意思上的差异不是很清楚。
作者: solome    时间: 2003-11-23 01:51
谢谢gemj 和 sbbi  gg,

我又想了想,一个是独立的发展,一个是发展是独立于,是不是因为后面是说一个共同的
祖先,所以...
哎呀,不行了,晕,好象是一念之间的问题似的,偶睡觉去了,明儿再说吧。
作者: atasl    时间: 2003-12-11 18:18
我的想法是,B说:不是来自共同祖先;C说:不是与共同祖先无关,即来自共同祖先。
ets的解释中:In C, the expression a type whose development was independent of a common ancestor states the opposite of the original point-that the type of mammal mentioned was thought to have developed independently of the main stem of mammalian evolution, but still to have descended from a common ancestor. 注意破折号后的that从句是解释the opposite而不是解释the original point,因为在the opposite of the original point中the opposite 是中心词。
另外,C中的independent of的意思按字典上解释是“独立的,不依赖他人或他物的,不受他人控制的”;而B中的developed independently from主体词是developed from,independently只是修饰develop表示develop的方式。

这种想法不知对否,还请大牛们指教。谢谢啦!

作者: flora_wang    时间: 2004-2-23 08:38
这个区别大概是最subtle的了...
作者: flora_wang    时间: 2004-2-23 08:43
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=34&id=13389&replyID=13389&star=7&skin=


    


把这两个连起来,下次找这个方便


作者: tangyi79    时间: 2004-2-23 09:50
type 不能用 whose


应该用which才对啊


作者: jamesliu79    时间: 2004-8-7 17:16

我来说点体会.


B项说的意思是:原来认为是直接从一个祖先进化来的,但是错了.应该是从一个祖先进化了几个主要的大系,然后这个大系又有分支,这样才进化过来.(一步变两步)


C项说的意思是:原来认为进化和共同的一个祖先没有关系,但是错了.应该是从一个祖先进化了几个主要的大系,然后这个大系又有分支,这样才进化过来.(没有必然的逻辑性)


显然,C项的意思的逻辑性比较牵强,因此应该选B.


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作者: wwwhahchn    时间: 2004-10-27 00:16

10楼给的链接上说的怎么跟楼上各位说的是反的?

那上面说B是“不是来自同一祖先”,C是“来自同一祖先”,到底哪个对?


作者: wwwhahchn    时间: 2004-10-28 08:22

怎么没人回答?

顶一下!!


作者: wwwhahchn    时间: 2004-10-30 00:51
继续问!!
作者: howru    时间: 2004-11-21 06:40
以下是引用atasl在2003-12-11 18:18:00的发言:
我的想法是,B说:不是来自共同祖先;C说:不是与共同祖先无关,即来自共同祖先。
ets的解释中:In C, the expression a type whose development was independent of a common ancestor states the opposite of the original point-that the type of mammal mentioned was thought to have developed independently of the main stem of mammalian evolution, but still to have descended from a common ancestor. 注意破折号后的that从句是解释the opposite而不是解释the original point,因为在the opposite of the original point中the opposite 是中心词。
另外,C中的independent of的意思按字典上解释是“独立的,不依赖他人或他物的,不受他人控制的”;而B中的developed independently from主体词是developed from,independently只是修饰develop表示develop的方式。

这种想法不知对否,还请大牛们指教。谢谢啦!

我被绕晕了, 看了gemj NN在另一贴字的解释, 仍不理解...    撇开这题的答案不谈, 到底破折号后面的话是 original point 还是 opposite of the original point.  我觉得就是original point, 因为B 就是这个意思:


        " common ancestor"-----> main branch ----> here
                   |----------> rather than here


"the opposite of the original point-that the type of mammal mentioned was thought to have developed independently of the main stem of mammalian evolution, but still to have descended from a common ancestor."


好迷惑啊, 请指教!


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作者: howru    时间: 2004-11-21 07:07
以下是引用howru在2004-11-21 6:40:00的发言:


我被绕晕了, 看了gemj NN在另一贴字的解释, 仍不理解...    撇开这题的答案不谈, 到底破折号后面的话是 original point 还是 opposite of the original point.  我觉得就是original point, 因为B 就是这个意思:


        " common ancestor"-----> main branch ----> here
                   |----------> rather than here


"the opposite of the original point-that the type of mammal mentioned was thought to have developed independently of the main stem of mammalian evolution, but still to have descended from a common ancestor."


好迷惑啊, 请指教!




噢, 刚刚看了tianwan 大侠的解释 - http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=23&ID=13809  也认为 that 后面是说 original point .   但这不违反修饰中心词的规则了吗?  我怎么判断倒底从句修饰哪个呢? 困惑中...
作者: wzparete    时间: 2006-2-9 15:50

B的意思很明确:是从分支发展而来(相当于有几个不同祖先),不是从共同祖先发展而来。develope from 从什么发展而来


C的意思混乱,没有表达出B的意思,而是说从共同祖先发展而来。a branch rather than a type ...was independent of a common ancestor。  atype 独立于共同祖先,就是不是从共同祖先发展而来,而前面有rather than 就是说 a branch 是从共同祖先发展而来(双重否定)。rather than .... independent of 而不是...独立发展


作者: xlhu    时间: 2006-5-3 08:22
thanks ,i got it!!
作者: dormousedzc    时间: 2007-11-30 01:02

OG说E   While a development may appear to parallel a branch,the logic of the sentence is contradicted by the meaning of this usage,

是什么意思啊,这种用法造成的矛盾之处在哪里呀???

谢谢指教


作者: lijiahui0422    时间: 2007-12-18 23:14
12楼的解释的有道理




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