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作者: chamcham    时间: 2007-6-16 17:26
标题: gwd14-14 (gwd17-14)

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14. GWD17-Q14:

Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

 

  1. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
  2. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies
  3. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
  4. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete
  5. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies

The answer is B, I am wondering if A is better.

I do admit "industries that are more established" is more precise than "more established industries" since the latter is not clear about weather "more" modifies "established" or "industries", but is it wired to say "competing companies one day may be partners the next" if B is the answer? On the contrast,  "companies that compete one day may be partners the next" feel much better.

Please help !


作者: Gudjohnson    时间: 2007-6-16 20:37
比较对象前后要一致
作者: qqort    时间: 2007-6-16 20:58
我也差点选了A,呵呵,同意Gudjohnson的,前面整个说的是事件,如果用A:as companies that,则成为和companies的比较了,不一致
作者: chamcham    时间: 2007-6-17 04:24

I dont think so.

Possibility 1: If "as" is a conj. here, means "because", then I think we dont need parallelism, does it?

Possibility 2: If "as"is a conj. and means "like, equally", then A and B would have the same problem, right? Because:

A:

Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

"lines of competition" and "they" match, but "companies" are not same type of things as them.

But B:

Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies one day may be partners the next.

We do have the same problem here, right? "lines of competition" and "they" match, but " competing companies" are not same type of things as them since the center of the subject is still "companies" modified by "competing".

That is why I think "as" is a conj. here and means "because/since" so does not really need parallelism. That is why I still vote for A. Please correct me if I am wrong with more explaination.

Besides, I still kind of feel wired about "as competing companies one day may be partners the next". I never saw this usage before. What is the use of "one day" and what does it modify? Any good example about this usage?


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作者: s7s7    时间: 2007-6-17 09:06

除了比较对象一致,我觉得句末是个突破口

A中as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.是错误结构

A是不行的

只有BE在句末能说通

而E不对称,大家公认,所以B


作者: chamcham    时间: 2007-6-17 10:02
以下是引用s7s7在2007-6-17 9:06:00的发言:

除了比较对象一致,我觉得句末是个突破口

A中as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.是错误结构

A是不行的

只有BE在句末能说通

而E不对称,大家公认,所以B

why?


作者: s7s7    时间: 2007-6-17 10:23

as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

我知道lz意思是that competecompanies的定语从句,

但是,不啰嗦吗,我把这种结构当作错误结构,不论是日常说话,还是书面写作

Lz可能会说:OKone day就是修饰compete,我认为,非

有朝一日是修饰可能会(成为合作伙伴)而不是compete


作者: sophiafinn    时间: 2007-6-17 13:44

我也选A, 但是读完B觉得更通顺

首先 A companies that compete 后面没有with each other 之类的跟着读上去别扭

查了GOOGLE company that compete 后面都跟一个完整句子,没有到compete就戛然而止的,compete是vi

而查competing company 就有很多例句了

而且A 的意思是后半部分转折,因此whereas应放在后半句,或者象B一样在句首改成ALTHOUGH

A改成 whereas they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry,as companies that compete with each other one day may be partners the next day就比B更通顺简洁了,因为B中的in industries that are more established的确没有A的 the more established industries简洁


作者: chamcham    时间: 2007-6-18 06:00

How about this?

The issue has to do with "compete." Competing is the best option here because it represents a non-finite clause. The companies are competing and will continue to compete in the future. Relative clause implies that an action happens only one time.

Does this rule/reason stand? I do remember XDF talked about this rule.

Plz advice,


作者: lloottuuss    时间: 2007-8-14 17:57

以前的讨论贴里面多数人支持A。

最近的怎么支持B的多了?


作者: dudulee    时间: 2007-8-14 18:18
原文最后的意思应该是竞争对手有一天会变成合作伙伴,而不是 有一天的竞争对手会变成伙伴 ,体会一下句子意思答案就出来了
作者: qianrene    时间: 2007-10-12 16:14
以下是引用dudulee在2007-8-14 18:18:00的发言:
原文最后的意思应该是竞争对手有一天会变成合作伙伴,而不是 有一天的竞争对手会变成伙伴 ,体会一下句子意思答案就出来了

既然one day也可以理解成修饰整个句子,为什么就认为A的one day就是只修饰compete的?

但是注意了,这里的one day不是有一天的意思,而是曾经的意思,和next day对应

还是认为A对:more established

B的they一般是指主语的Lines所以不对

competing不是一直在进行的,而且是一个动词,所以用定语从句比较好,而且One day也可以修饰compete动词了

如果表示竞争对手的形容词其实有很多啊,competing我觉得不合适


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作者: selinahsiao    时间: 2007-11-2 21:45

我认为这题答案 的确是A

因为

B 选项:
in industries that are more established 有点太wordy 
另外 由于 as competing companies one day
  
这边
  competing 作为形容词
  修饰companies 名词
  但是后面却放one day 副词
  结构不大对?
  
C选项:由于不该省略industry

应该变成 the Internet industry

因为前面是the lines of competition ---in the more established industries 是复数
 
要区别两种不同the Internet industry

不该省略industry

而且也不该用where 应该是which
 

DE 则是因为unlike 比较不对等  所以直接删除


A: 用as 当作连结词S+V+O 避免run-on
as companies may be partners the next
再用that compete one day 修饰companies

我觉得很好阿>”<


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作者: tangzimo    时间: 2007-11-24 19:24
以下是引用s7s7在2007-6-17 10:23:00的发言:

as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.

我知道lz意思是that competecompanies的定语从句,

但是,不啰嗦吗,我把这种结构当作错误结构,不论是日常说话,还是书面写作

Lz可能会说:OKone day就是修饰compete,我认为,非

有朝一日是修饰可能会(成为合作伙伴)而不是compete

我知道这种重复可以做一个语法点

可是B也有同样的问题啊

B:Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies one day may be partners the next.

这里不也是有同样的问题吗?


作者: hollygrail    时间: 2007-11-27 03:30
vote for A
1.作为对比优选unlike或whereas.
2.由未划线的one day may be partners the next. next后面显然省略day,所以one day做为句子成分应该和the next平行.the next做状语,one day也应该做状语.
3.小比较方面.more established industries和the internet industry比industries that are more established和the internet industry平行.而且industries that are more established比较wordy.
4.B中as competing companies one day may be partners the next.one day修饰歧义,一是做companies的后置定语(其实文章的意思看one day应该修饰competing),二是做状语修饰may be.两种修饰意思都说不过去.


作者: 阿土莎莎    时间: 2007-11-29 16:29

作者: fangrong    时间: 2008-4-22 19:56

Support "B":

"one day" should serve the latter-"may be partners" instead of "companies that compete". The function of  "one day" in choice A is not clear.


作者: Carollyna    时间: 2008-7-3 17:27

支持B

one day是总有一天的意思,将来的意思。as companies that compete one day may be partners the next有歧义,不知修饰前面还是后面。

  
                    
More established industries
有歧义,不知是跟多的行业还是更确定的行业,不如industries that are more established来得好。


作者: sgwanderer    时间: 2008-7-21 00:07

a better than B.

1)  people aruge for B can't explain the function of "the next".

" that compete one day may be partner the next (day)."

apparently, the nextday -> be partner, and one day -> compete.... also, logically, "one day" can not be for "be partner"... how can you assert competing company will one day be partner?

2) in the more established industry -> no ambiguity and precise than the "that"... 

3) whereas can be used as "becz of particular fact" (in law documents" and as "although something is true".. i.e. here the usage is correct


作者: rorarora    时间: 2008-8-10 10:19

这么说the next是后置,

本句说的是:competing companies one day may be the next partners.= competing companies may be the next partners one day...

我一直以为next是指时间,跟one day重复....


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作者: ernestnie    时间: 2008-8-20 03:36
"more" 前面有个 "the" 所以完全没问题。
应该是A

作者: yinlixiao    时间: 2008-9-9 12:09
B后面的as 从句改变了原句的意思吧. the加得毫无理由,没有限定修饰,为什么要特指;
而且加上the产生了逻辑错误,B变成在说,传统工业里lines of
competitions跟网络工业里是同一个东西,明显的原句说的是各个工业有他们各自的lines of competitions.
A 中的the more established indestries 跟 the Internet indestry才是平行,好不好?
作者: yinlixiao    时间: 2008-9-9 12:12
同意the more表示比较级,修饰形容词established,语感上也不可能认为more修饰industries, 除非是没有the.

作者: highdior    时间: 2008-9-15 22:57

one day, 是和the next(day)平行的。Aone day 存在修饰compete的岐义,因此和the next 就不平行了。

和平行结构较劲通常在GMAT里都行不通,选B。


作者: yinlixiao    时间: 2008-9-16 04:50
完全不能同意所谓的平行结构的观点。
如果有平行结构A也要好太多了。one day修饰complete, the next (day) 修饰be partners ,对比鲜明。
that从句限制了companies, one day包含在that从句中,不会产生修饰may be嫌疑. 这句话表示了一个事实,一般现在时。
competing companies表示现在正在竞争的公司们,如何后面接one day,如何解释?注意: 如果想表示竞争的这个状态,应该用competitive;
 如果one day修饰的是may be,那么the next和one day同时修饰may be是什么意思?

作者: yinlixiao    时间: 2008-9-16 04:56
不知道为什么把as的用法弄混了。
as, 这里作用是举例,“比方说...”。
就是连接出一个特殊的例子,说明前面的blurred and indistinct.

开始看到一个MM说Google到很多competing companies的例子,我没有看到,倒是看到很多componies completing for sth.

作者: jervis    时间: 2008-9-25 14:48

选B.

A中more established industries有歧义,more可以做为形容词并列修饰industrie表示‘更多的工业’也可做为副词修饰established表示‘更建立’? 不如定语从句,消除歧义。

one day,2个意思 1.总有一天,表示将来。2。曾经,表示过去

在本文表示‘曾经’,与next day 对应。


作者: 水里游    时间: 2008-10-4 16:54
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作者: huyannancy    时间: 2008-11-9 11:06

突然发现,选项A中还有一个致命的时态错误,as companies that compete one day maybe partners the next. 因为one day 在这题应该是曾经的意思,那么compete就应该用过去时competed.  欢迎指正


作者: lesliecheung    时间: 2008-12-25 10:46
UP,然后才能看见
作者: lesliecheung    时间: 2008-12-26 23:26

作者: Eliott    时间: 2009-2-21 12:17
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作者: Eliott    时间: 2009-2-21 12:22

我选A,

one day修饰compete;而不能修饰competing parnter


作者: zhuceg    时间: 2009-4-29 18:30
I go for A, since there is no way to understand such part of B as "as competing companies one day may be partners the next".

"the next" simply plays no role in this structure.

In A, the "as" could be seen as "because"

作者: visavi    时间: 2009-6-4 23:30
看看,自己做错的题目
作者: hongrucai    时间: 2009-6-5 02:36
支持选A。原意是:原来互相竞争的公司有一天会变成合作伙伴。但B改变了句意,竞争的公司会成为合作伙伴。
作者: nancia    时间: 2009-7-24 15:34

vote for A!

主要是B中的the next说不清楚


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作者: cymissiloveu    时间: 2009-8-1 15:49
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作者: seriousa    时间: 2009-8-27 14:19

http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-sentence-correction/79835-whereas-lines-competition-3.html

"Whereas" and "although" are both correct. We can't choose between A and B on the basis of these words.

The reference of the pronoun "they" is unambiguous in both A and B. It refers both logically and grammatically to the subject of the preceding clause "lines." We can't choose between A and B on the basis of this word either.

What makes B wrong is the phrase: "as competing companies one day may be partners the next." The separation of "competing" from "one day" confuses the intended meaning. In A, "companies that compete one day may be partners the next" is clear and logical.


作者: beichenxuans    时间: 2009-8-28 13:10
以下是引用highdior在2008/9/15 22:57:00的发言:

one day, 是和the next(day)平行的。Aone day 存在修饰compete的岐义,因此和the next 就不平行了。

和平行结构较劲通常在GMAT里都行不通,选B。

比平行大的是逻辑

原文表达对比

B although 是让步  改变原文意思

所以 选A!!


作者: Winnieny    时间: 2009-10-8 10:28
A 中的more established industries 很容易产生歧义,more 是修饰established 还是 industries呢?B中的 industries that are more established更好。
作者: mars_cheung    时间: 2009-10-22 20:13

支持 B。

 A 不可选。A 有几个硬伤:

1、the more established industries,这种表达会造成“more (established industries)" 还是" (more established) industries" 的歧义,具体可以参照 大全-250 more gasoline-efficient cars 那题。

而 B 改成 industries that are more established 则有效避免了歧义。

2、companies that compete 不如 competing company简洁。有形容词可用的情况下为什么要用定语从句?而且我觉得 B 里面的 competing companies one day may be partners the next 形式上很对称。(competing companies |one day) may be (partners | the next ) 不是吗?

3、还是并列与对称的问题,整个句子看 Although 主语 be adj (in bla bla bla...), they be adj (in bla bla bla...), as...  结构很完美啊,相比 A 还破坏了并列平行呢。


作者: 红尘道士    时间: 2010-7-1 06:52
我选B,补充一点,我认为lines前面的the也是必须的
作者: hanlei8492    时间: 2010-9-30 04:29
http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-sentence-correction/79835-whereas-lines-competition-3.html
"Whereas" and "although" are both correct. We can't choose between A and B on the basis of these words.

The reference of the pronoun "they" is unambiguous in both A and B. It refers both logically and grammatically to the subject of the preceding clause "lines." We can't choose between A and B on the basis of this word either.

What makes B wrong is the phrase: "as competing companies one day may be partners the next." The separation of "competing" from "one day" confuses the intended meaning. In A, "companies that compete one day may be partners the next" is clear and logical.
-- by 会员 seriousa (2009/8/27 14:19:00)



看了楼主推荐的链接,给出这个解释的人好像是个外国的大牛。说的很有道理。之前我选B,现在改选A。
What makes B wrong is the phrase: "as competing companies one day may be partners the next." The separation of "competing" from "one day" confuses the intended meaning. In A, "companies that compete one day may be partners the next" is clear and logical.
对A来说,曾经竞争的公司是主语
对B来说,竞争的公司和one day的关系不明确,因为one day作为副词是不能修饰名词的,也就没有了A中的意思。
这是我的理解,盼拍砖。

作者: ginsky72    时间: 2011-12-29 22:49
支持
作者: szjinan    时间: 2011-12-30 05:47
我觉得如果是b的话,去掉the next 不是更好吗,觉得one day 和the next有重复
作者: lemonsong    时间: 2013-1-24 21:04
以下是引用s7s7在2007-6-17 10:23:00的发言:
as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.



我知道lz意思是that competecompanies的定语从句,



但是,不啰嗦吗,我把这种结构当作错误结构,不论是日常说话,还是书面写作



Lz可能会说:OKone day就是修饰compete,我认为,非



有朝一日是修饰可能会(成为合作伙伴)而不是compete



我知道这种重复可以做一个语法点
可是B也有同样的问题啊
B:Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies one day may be partners the next.
这里不也是有同样的问题吗?
-- by 会员 tangzimo (2007/11/24 19:24:00)



呵呵  perfect
我不知道ed形式是不是也倾向于表示持久的状态,如果是的话,ing也是表示持久状态,that从句表示一次性动作。那么这个题就可以直接结合逻辑意思找到答案了。





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