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作者: adlinker    时间: 2007-6-9 20:06
标题: prep 2-11 没看懂

11. (24915-!-item-!-188;#058&001837)

Radio stations with radio data system (RDS) technology broadcast special program information that only radios with an RDS feature can receive.  Between 1994 and 1996, the number of RDS radio stations in Verdland increased from 250 to 600.  However, since the number of RDS-equipped radios in Verdland was about the same in 1996 as in 1994, the number of Verdlanders receiving the special program information probably did not increase significantly.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(A) Few if any of the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994 broadcast to people with RDS-equipped radios living in areas not previously reached by RDS stations.
(B) In 1996 most Verdlanders who lived within the listening area of an RDS station already had a radio equipped to receive RDS.
(C) Equipping a radio station with RDS technology does not decrease the station's listening area.
(D) In 1996 Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could not receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994.
(E) The RDS radio stations in Verdland in 1996 did not all offer the same type of programming.

答案是A。谁能解释一下。谢谢。


作者: qianrene    时间: 2007-6-9 20:37

就是说1994年新增加的那些电台和原来的覆盖范围是一样的,并没有扩大,所以能收听到的人还是那么多

D是重复了文中第一句话


作者: adlinker    时间: 2007-6-9 20:51
谢谢,我之前选的也是D
(A) Few if any of the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in
Verdland after 1994 broadcast to people with RDS-equipped radios living
in areas not previously reached by RDS stations.
主要是这句看不懂。你能帮忙分析一下这个选项的句子结构吗?

作者: pangpangshin    时间: 2007-6-9 21:08

11. (24915-!-item-!-188;#058&001837)

Radio stations with radio data system (RDS) technology broadcast special program information that only radios with an RDS feature can receive.  Between 1994 and 1996, the number of RDS radio stations in Verdland increased from 250 to 600.(RDS覆盖的范围扩大了,解题的关键)  However, since the number of RDS-equipped radios in Verdland was about the same in 1996 as in 1994,(前提:配备RDS的收音机数量不变)
  the number of Verdlanders receiving the special program information probably did not increase significantly(结论:接受特别节目的人数不遍).

配备RDS的收音机数量不变=》接受特别节目的人数不遍

由文中黄色部分可得出作者的假设是RDS覆盖范围的变化并没影响到接收特别节目的人数,即:A

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

Few if any(插入语) of the RDS radio stations(主语)
        that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994(定语从句)
        broadcast(谓语) to people with RDS-equipped radios living in areas not previously reached by RDS stations.


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作者: qianrene    时间: 2007-6-9 21:11

(A) Few(主语) if any of the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994 broadcast to people with RDS-equipped radios living in areas not previously reached(谓语) by RDS stations. A表达的意思就是有很少一部分人在RDS电台1994年开始扩张之前没有被RDS电台普及

应该是:几乎没有RDS电台(1994年后的那些)向那些人广播(那些人是之前也没有被普及进去的)


作者: pangpangshin    时间: 2007-6-9 22:27

嘿嘿,刚刚A分析错了,琢磨半天

Few if any(插入语) of the RDS radio stations(主语)
        that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994(定语从句)
        broadcast(谓语) to people with RDS-equipped radios living in areas not previously reached by RDS stations.

同意LS MM观点


作者: s7s7    时间: 2007-6-10 07:41

A是说:1994年大多数有那个特殊设备的人,他们所在的地方都能收到那些电台的信号。

A直译:1994年向Verdland广播的电台(即便是有)也很少不能将信号发送到有特殊设备的人所居住的地区。

像这种双重否定的特殊句式、极其变态的表达方法,就是GMAT的最爱

(A) Few(主语) if any of the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994 broadcast (谓语) to people with RDS-equipped radios living in areas not previously reached by RDS stations.修饰地区


作者: adlinker    时间: 2007-6-10 07:51

这题是我见过的最BT的逻辑题了,居然要考长难句,出题人心里阴暗啊!谢谢楼上两位mm帮忙,这一下就清楚多了。  如果考试有这么BT的题,只能放弃了。                                                                                    


作者: adlinker    时间: 2007-6-10 07:53
同意pangpangshin和s7s7的语法分析!
作者: lqn0621    时间: 2007-6-10 12:54

gwd 里面的题 貌似在7 8套的样子

讨论贴 巨长 从04年开始的


作者: lisony    时间: 2007-10-23 23:22
以下是引用adlinker在2007-6-10 7:51:00的发言:

这题是我见过的最BT的逻辑题了,居然要考长难句,出题人心里阴暗啊!谢谢楼上两位mm帮忙,这一下就清楚多了。  如果考试有这么BT的题,只能放弃了。                                                                                    

同意!


作者: Winterfish    时间: 2007-11-17 11:28

天,这是我一周前模考的第一题,当时时间紧,看不懂,模模糊糊选对了;今天在PREP又遇到了,看了6分钟,选了D,惨了!

自信心受到极其严重的打击,A到现在我都不知道啥意思:(


作者: qxlsh    时间: 2008-1-2 22:44

if any是插入语!没想到,以前没见过不加逗号的插入语。


作者: chenae8151    时间: 2008-1-5 04:17
以下是引用s7s7在2007-6-10 7:41:00的发言:

A是说:1994年大多数有那个特殊设备的人,他们所在的地方都能收到那些电台的信号。

A直译:1994年向Verdland广播的电台(即便是有)也很少不能将信号发送到有特殊设备的人所居住的地区。

像这种双重否定的特殊句式、极其变态的表达方法,就是GMAT的最爱

(A) Few(主语) if any of the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994 broadcast (谓语) to people with RDS-equipped radios living in areas not previously reached by RDS stations.修饰地区

那d说的是没有设备就不能收到,岂不是和a的意思一样,为什么不选D呢?
作者: 蓝夕叶子    时间: 2008-3-4 00:21

同问D,为什么不行呢?

D的取反,就是


 In 1996 Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994.

当没有RDS 收音机的人能听到RDS的节目,那么结论"the number of Verdlanders receiving the special program information probably did not increase significantly"就不成立了啊。这个难道不是判断assumption的条件么?


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作者: 荷包里的月亮    时间: 2008-3-4 08:47

汗...A的表达真拗口...

不过D好像不算是假设...这个本来就是题目给的条件...看懂A的情况下肯定优选A...


作者: sausau    时间: 2008-11-28 02:32
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作者: songlovegt    时间: 2009-4-17 22:41

Radio stations with radio data system (RDS) technology broadcast
special program information that only radios with an RDS feature can
receive.  Between 1994 and 1996, the number of RDS radio stations in
Verdland increased from 250 to 600.  However, since the number of
RDS-equipped radios in Verdland was about the same in 1996 as in 1994,
the number of Verdlanders receiving the special program information
probably did not increase significantly.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(A)
Few if any of the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in
Verdland after 1994 broadcast to people with RDS-equipped radios living
in areas not previously reached by RDS stations.
(B) In 1996 most Verdlanders who lived within the listening area of an RDS station already had a radio equipped to receive RDS.
(C) Equipping a radio station with RDS technology does not decrease the station's listening area.
(D)
In 1996 Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS
could not receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that
began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994.
(E) The RDS radio stations in Verdland in 1996 did not all offer the same type of programming.

原题第一句

Radio stations with radio data system (RDS) technology broadcast
special program information that only radios with an RDS feature can
receive.

Radio stations with radio data system (RDS)----->radios with an RDS feature

原题结论

radios with an RDS feature same---->Radio stations with radio data system (RDS) same

两句推理方向相反

D. 非RDS radios---->非RDS radio station 即 RDS radio station --->RDS radios

与第一句相同,与结论相反,错

其他选项通过有关无关判断排除,只有A对


作者: ursula_1    时间: 2009-4-20 12:32
以下是引用蓝夕叶子在2008-3-4 0:21:00的发言:

同问D,为什么不行呢?

D的取反,就是


 In 1996 Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994.

当没有RDS 收音机的人能听到RDS的节目,那么结论"the number of Verdlanders receiving the special program information probably did not increase significantly"就不成立了啊。这个难道不是判断assumption的条件么?

为什么D 不能选,我也选错了 啊


作者: lijiahui0422    时间: 2009-9-5 14:30

A好复杂,研究了半天...

原来是在说  一些过去装备的RDS确收不到节目的人,这些人的存在没有使rds得数量增加,但是却可能使收到的节目数量增加,A正是排除了这点可能性


作者: 蔬菜小丸子    时间: 2009-9-9 12:20
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作者: yase880211    时间: 2009-9-13 14:17

怎么看?


作者: baozifisher    时间: 2010-1-23 16:17
标题: 一点归纳
对题干有两个假设可能推翻结论,
第一,电台变多增加了覆盖范围,配RDS的收音机数量虽然未变但听到的人多了,包括以前有收音机但听不到的人。
第二,虽然没有增加收音机,但在公共场合播放的频率或范围增加,则收音机本身的受众也可能增加。

A选项对应第一种假设排除,未找到有排除第二个假设的选项。因是选必要条件,非充分条件,因此选A
作者: 水色青空    时间: 2010-3-8 16:52
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/radio-stations-with-radio-t3196.html

有很清楚的解释
作者: pmlxxzj    时间: 2011-8-16 17:41
看了帖子就明了很多了,谢谢大家啦
作者: one1day    时间: 2011-8-29 20:48
我是这么做的:

收到电台必须2条件:1.电台广播 2.自己有设备
题目:1增加,2不变 --> 收听did not increase
A.1增加了数目,但没扩大范围,所以,还是只有2能听到,别人听不到
B.=2不变
C.说decrease,无关,题目只涉及increase
D.1增加,2没有 --> 不能收到 【废话,当然不能,而且注意时间,in 1996。原题时间段94-96。这里只说96,没提94,59,做assumption显然是覆盖面不够的】
E.彻底无关,时间也不对
作者: fwsoo    时间: 2011-8-30 13:43
A应该是说,1994年后建的Station很少会覆盖那些以前不能被覆盖但拥有设备的人所居住的地区。也就是说1994年以前station就已经覆盖了有设备的人所在的地区。所以有设备的人既然没变。收听的人数也没变
作者: xiqiong    时间: 2012-9-14 16:05
http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/radio-stations-with-radio-t3196.html

有很清楚的解释
-- by 会员 水色青空 (2010/3/8 16:52:25)




谢谢! 真的解释得很清楚~!
作者: ericeric77    时间: 2013-7-16 07:06
我错了这题。
但我想说,如果A对,那这个文章有一个最基本假设,就是世界上有一种SB,明明没信号却去买收音机。
D,我还是觉得对。叔岁数大了,96年正大一,那时候我们一个宿舍只有一个收音机,听球赛.
作者: jjwisest    时间: 2013-8-24 13:00
pangpangshin 发表于 2007-6-9 21:08
11. (24915-!-item-!-188;#058&001837)Radio stations with radio data system (RDS) technology broa ...

很清楚。
作者: jinkeyyy    时间: 2013-8-27 21:01
摘抄: “ D is a fact. and ASSUMPTIONS must be statements IN ADDITION to the premises given in the passage. they can't merely be repeats of the information that's already there.

you won't often see this happen, by the way, but, if you get a statement that appears to regurgitate one of the premises, then you should strike it out. "
作者: Cabbage_TH    时间: 2017-5-19 14:17
回复一下D选项,比较简单的一个道理就是,CR中的答案应该是new premise,D选项跟原文一样,这一点上可以秒杀了
作者: 小桃仁cherry    时间: 2017-10-5 21:52
Mark一下!               
作者: Blair99    时间: 2017-11-27 20:18
题目逻辑链:
虽然rds电台数量增加,但是有rds功能的收音机的数量没有增加----》收到特殊信息的人数也不会明显增加

如果拥有rds功能收音机的人他们所在地区的94年之前没有rds电台,那么随着rds数量增加从而覆盖到该地区,那么之前有rds功能收音机的人就能够收到特殊信息,该人数增加。
a选项:
双重否定(意译)----有rds功能收音机的人们在之前就能够接收到rds电台的信号。
作者: JuliaC2017    时间: 2018-2-21 15:49
感谢分享!               
作者: growing0424    时间: 2018-2-26 10:34
感谢分享~~~!
作者: 有语胜无言    时间: 2019-1-4 15:21
Mark这道题 难
作者: Bensontuo    时间: 2019-8-26 16:59
adlinker 发表于 2007-6-9 20:06
11. (24915-!-item-!-188;#058&001837)Radio stations with radio data system (RDS) technology broa ...

Spot the question type: Necessary Assumption

Core of the argument:

If TBSPI be received, it must be radio with RDS feature.

1994 - 1996, Numbers of RDS radio stations increases. RDS equipped radios are the same.

so, people who receive TBSPI must not increase significantly.

我們可以想出哪幾個必要假設?

1. 除了RDS設備外沒有其他變因會影響收聽人數

來吧, 看答案吧

A. 曲非後, 意思為何?

Few RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in V after 1994, " not broadcast " to people with RDS equipped radios living in areas not previously reached by RDS stations

94年後才開始播放的無線電站沒有播放到原本沒有播放的區域, 就算這些區域裡面的人有RDS的裝備。

他在告訴你什麼? 他在告訴你有其他變因拉, 這其他變因就是不管人有沒有這樣的設備, 以前沒有無線電站時, 就算有RDS的設備, 也是收聽不到, 那現在有了多的無線電站, 原本收不到的人不能夠因為無線電站的數目增加而收聽得到。

所以A選項為 Perfect Defender 的角色。

B. Negate - " Not most "

We do not know if Not most means none or some. We can't infer anything.

C. 無關, 人家說沒有大幅度的上升, 你這裡再講沒有大幅度的減少。

D. 我們看到 any program 的時候就馬上可以把此選項刪掉了。  原文限定在 special progrm對不對?  

E. support.







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