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作者: joywzy 时间: 2003-11-14 11:35
标题: 885-3-21
21. At the time of the Mexican agrarian revolution, the most radical faction, that of Zapata and his followers, proposed a return to communal ownership of land, to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards.
(A) land, to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards
(B) land, a form of ownership of the pre-Columbians and respected by the Spaniards
(C) land, respected by the Spaniards and a pre-Columbian form of ownership
(D) land in which a pre-Columbian form of ownership was respected by the Spaniards
(E) land that had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards

答案:A,请问B/C为何不好啊?谢谢.

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作者: 深海的小美人鱼 时间: 2003-11-14 12:26
b/c指代不清楚
a form of ownership of the pre-Columbian修饰communal ownership of land s
respected by the Spaniards是修饰a form of ownership of the pre-Columbian
b/cj将其并列
当然错

作者: joywzy 时间: 2003-11-14 14:36

以下是引用深海的小美人鱼在2003-11-14 12:26:00的发言：
b/c指代不清楚
a form of ownership of the pre-Columbian修饰communal ownership of land s
respected by the Spaniards是修饰a form of ownership of the pre-Columbian
b/cj将其并列
当然错

能再讲讲吗?没明白啊.

B中做为同位语,不好吗?C,过去分词修饰呢?谢谢.

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作者: joywzy 时间: 2003-11-15 15:01
请大家帮助，我实在晕修饰。

这题中，
B中做为同位语,不好吗?C,过去分词修饰呢?谢谢.

作者: dandan74 时间: 2003-11-15 15:37
这道题我认为修饰是考点也不是考点:
说它是考点，是因为B/C的修饰引出了歧义，
说它不是考点，是因为不是考对修饰语的选择，也是考不同修饰结构都可以使用的情况下，那个有歧义，那个没有。
B中a form of ownership of the pre-Columbians and respected by the Spaniards，有歧义，
道题是谁被respected乐呢？还有of表达的possesive不对，而应该用pre-C修饰form.
C中respected by 后面的两个成分都可以理解为respect的主语，但是显然respected by a pre-Columbian form of ownership逻辑不通

作者: joywzy 时间: 2003-11-15 15:41

以下是引用dandan74在2003-11-15 15:37:00的发言：
这道题我认为修饰是考点也不是考点:
说它是考点，是因为B/C的修饰引出了歧义，
说它不是考点，是因为不是考对修饰语的选择，也是考不同修饰结构都可以使用的情况下，那个有歧义，那个没有。
B中a form of ownership of the pre-Columbians and respected by the Spaniards，有歧义，
道题是谁被respected乐呢？还有of表达的possesive不对，而应该用pre-C修饰form.
C中respected by 后面的两个成分都可以理解为respect的主语，但是显然respected by a pre-Columbian form of ownership逻辑不通

谢谢dandan。我最近是将关于修饰的题全部选出来重做，想彻底搞明白修饰。我实在太晕修饰了。

你解释得非常对，谢谢。有新的心得再跟你分享。

作者: dandan74 时间: 2003-11-15 15:47
你觉得
to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards.
做什莫成分呢？同位于马？
总是觉得怪怪的。

作者: jeffyang 时间: 2003-11-15 18:05

以下是引用dandan74在2003-11-15 15:47:00的发言：
你觉得
to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards.
做什莫成分呢？同位于马？
总是觉得怪怪的。

對啊!
我這一句也看不懂

作者: joywzy 时间: 2003-11-16 11:46

宾补

作者: jeffyang 时间: 2003-11-16 20:37
At the time of the Mexican agrarian revolution, the most radical faction, that of Zapata and his followers, proposed a return to communal ownership of land, to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards.

Q1: that 是不是關係代名詞, 指 the most radical faction ?
可是關代用法不是不能在,之後嗎 ?

Q2:proposed a return...... , to ..... 看不懂
是不是 propose N to N 的用法

謝謝大家

作者: hpp920 时间: 2004-9-28 08:47
此题E为什么不对? that 从句修饰ownship没有歧义呀? 请大家指教!!!!!!!!!

作者: LES 时间: 2004-9-28 09:16

有歧义的，that也可以修饰land。

在A of B that 结构中最好A，B有数的区别，以明确that从句的修饰对象。

作者: paopao 时间: 2004-9-28 10:20

E没有歧义

E的错误在是限定定从说明还有一种土地制度that not had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards

而根据句意是作补充说明 to what 宾补的意思表达好

作者: hpp920 时间: 2004-9-29 10:11

哇, paopao, 你好棒!!!,所言极是!! 看来我对这个语法点还不太敏感,需要多多练习.paopa你什么时候考呀?

To Les: 多谢多谢. 我还是赞成paopao的观点: 没有歧义.判断的根本应是逻辑, 这里逻辑没有歧义,

作者: dajiqi 时间: 2004-10-9 14:10

1). 说实话, 没有看懂PAOPAO的理论. 从哪儿可以看出还有一种制度that not had been.... 有请PAOPAO或HPP再讲一下.

2).另外, 关于E

(E) land that had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards

LES说有歧义, 即A of B that. 如果A of B, which 呢? 有歧义吗?

请问E还有别的什么错误吗? 要是将E改为:

(E) land, a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards

这样的话是不是也对.

3).这种改法是不是也是同位语. 答案A中的to what 一定是同位语吗. 好象名词短语的同位语比较常见, A中的同位语是不是介词短语的同位语?

谢谢. 欢迎讨论.

作者: dajiqi 时间: 2004-10-11 10:02
再顶一下.

作者: egretxm 时间: 2005-1-8 11:46

paopao 说：这个that 从句限定修饰communal ownership of land, 即had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards 的土地公有制，言下之意还有别的“土地公有制”not had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards

简言之，这个修饰必须是非限定修饰才对。paopao 的这个好像很有道理。

另外说这里有歧义，我觉得也是说得通的。

作者: egretxm 时间: 2005-1-8 12:21

B中a form of ownership of the pre-Columbians and respected by the Spaniards，有歧义，
道题是谁被respected乐呢？

这个似乎有点牵强。

在同意A是最佳答案的前提下，我想弄明白的是：可否由一个作同位语的名词短语和一个分词短语并列修饰他们前面的名词短语

如果可以，那么 a form of ownership of the pre-Columbians 和 respected by the Spaniards并列修饰communal ownership of land

请大家指点我的这个理解是否正确。谢过！

作者: egretxm 时间: 2005-1-8 12:27

之所以有上面这个疑问，是因为我经常遇到很奇怪的并列，比如OG上的那道partly to 与partly because 的并列；885Scetion16-9中，with短语和whose引导的定从的并列。这让我不得不怀疑以上这个并列也可行。

作者: xiao_zhutou 时间: 2005-6-9 09:57

以下是引用egretxm在2005-1-8 12:27:00的发言：

有同样的问题。哪位NN可以帮着讲讲啊？

作者: xiao_zhutou 时间: 2005-6-9 09:59

还有一个问题：

在表示所有格时，可以用两个of吗？这题的B用了 "a form of ownership of the pre-Columbians" 是不是这里错了？？

作者: xiao_zhutou 时间: 2005-6-10 06:08

help...

作者: Avantasia 时间: 2005-6-10 08:38

两个Of结构是有点awkward, OG里面也说过, 但是这是最后几招, 属于了effectiveness的错误.

作者: fr6102790 时间: 2005-7-7 08:29
标题: 炒一次冷饭

21. At the time of the Mexican agrarian revolution, the most radical faction, that of Zapata and his followers, proposed a return to communal ownership of land, to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards.

(A) land, to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards

(B) land, a form of ownership of the pre-Columbians and respected by the Spaniards

(D) land in which a pre-Columbian form of ownership was respected by the Spaniards（A）

(E) land that had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards

解释如下:

A项结构为...faction...proposed a return to communal ownership of land, to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards.

其中,to what 结构是a return to ...的同位语(省略了a return,这种形式较为古老---引自白勇语法书),正确;

B项a form of ownership of the pre-Columbians和 respected by the Spaniards同时修饰land,前面的结构逻辑不通,后面的结构未反映出这种ownership在主句动词发生之前得到S人的推崇;且两个结构语法功能不能一致,无法并列;

C项错误同B;

D项错误的指出主从发生在同一时间范畴之内;

E项虽然表达了时间上的先后顺序,但在逻辑上存在错误,即土地本身并不是一种所有权形式.

欢迎讨论.

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作者: tigar 时间: 2005-8-3 00:22

At the time of the Mexican agrarian revolution, the most radical faction, that of Zapata and his followers, proposed a return to communal ownership of land, to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards.

这里插入语 that of Zapata and his followers, that指代faction吗？

请哪位CONFIRM ？

谢谢！

作者: xxiaoyan 时间: 2005-10-14 19:38

应该是的吧

作者: xxiaoyan 时间: 2005-10-14 19:41

在同意A是最佳答案的前提下，我想弄明白的是：可否由一个作同位语的名词短语和一个分词短语并列修饰他们前面的名词短语
如果可以，那么 a form of ownership of the pre-Columbians 和 respected by the Spaniards并列修饰communal ownership of land
之所以有上面这个疑问，是因为我经常遇到很奇怪的并列，比如OG上的那道partly to 与partly because 的并列；885Scetion16-9中，with短语和whose引导的定从的并列。这让我不得不怀疑以上这个并列也可行。

希望nn帮忙解答一下

作者: xxiaoyan 时间: 2005-10-17 14:21
自己顶一下啊！牛牛帮忙看看

作者: xxiaoyan 时间: 2005-10-17 14:23

方便起见，在帖一次题目

21. At the time of the Mexican agrarian revolution, the most radical faction, that of Zapata and his followers, proposed a return to communal ownership of land, to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards.
(A) land, to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards
(B) land, a form of ownership of the pre-Columbians and respected by the Spaniards
(C) land, respected by the Spaniards and a pre-Columbian form of ownership
(D) land in which a pre-Columbian form of ownership was respected by the Spaniards
(E) land that had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards

作者: xxiaoyan 时间: 2005-10-23 10:15

为什么就是没人理涅？顶！

作者: 司香尉 时间: 2006-4-22 15:10
我觉得如果用and连接一个作同位语的名词短语和一个分词短语并列修饰他们前面的名词短语的话，不平行。

作者: xjlv128 时间: 2006-5-5 08:37

以下是引用司香尉在2006-4-22 15:10:00的发言：
我觉得如果用and连接一个作同位语的名词短语和一个分词短语并列修饰他们前面的名词短语的话，不平行。

我觉得这里是：如果改成并列就是改变原意啊

作者: zlzlzl 时间: 2006-8-6 17:30

对，改变原文意思。

communal ownership已经不是西班牙人统治的政策了。自然也不可能respect。

用西班牙人修饰前哥伦布的土地符合原文意思。

作者: cattsky 时间: 2006-9-5 16:36

以下是引用fr6102790在2005-7-7 8:29:00的发言：

(A) land, to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards

(B) land, a form of ownership of the pre-Columbians and respected by the Spaniards

(D) land in which a pre-Columbian form of ownership was respected by the Spaniards（A）

(E) land that had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards

解释如下:

A项结构为...faction...proposed a return to communal ownership of land, to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards.

其中,to what 结构是a return to ...的同位语(省略了a return,这种形式较为古老---引自白勇语法书),正确;

C项错误同B;

D项错误的指出主从发生在同一时间范畴之内;

E项虽然表达了时间上的先后顺序,但在逻辑上存在错误,即土地本身并不是一种所有权形式.

欢迎讨论.

提壶灌顶

作者: sch 时间: 2007-9-23 15:04
21. At the time of the Mexican
agrarian revolution, the most radical faction, that of Zapata and his
followers, proposed a return to communal ownership of land, to what had been a pre-Columbian form of ownership respected by the Spaniards.

这里 that of Zapata and his
followers 我的看法是同位语,插入成分. 是fraction的同位语.

即: the most radical faction, that( the fraction) of Zapata and his
followers, proposed a retur....

因为 the most radical faction是句子主语而不是插入语,所以that显然不是从句跳修饰revolution,所以that是插入语.

多读几遍下来就是这个感觉,请执教

作者: youyou3941 时间: 2008-7-18 11:57
BC意思错了

作者: kkkliujun 时间: 2010-12-6 15:31
为什么A要用过去完成时啊？

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