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作者: Jimoney    时间: 2007-4-11 04:05
标题: Boston U or Fordham?

Background: JD, interested in financial law, hope to come back to China within 10 to 15 years.  Fordham's reputation in China seems awful. I haven't met a single person in China who knows what is Fordham. How many chinese are in their law school?  Disregarding cost, I am more leaning towards Boston now, soliciting advice. Plus the director of admission at BU wrote personal notes on the acceptance letter, is that their common practice or something I am really specially, i hope for the later anyway. Thanks.


作者: neohawk    时间: 2007-4-11 04:13
以下是引用Jimoney在2007-4-11 4:05:00的发言:

Background: JD, interested in financial law, hope to come back to China within 10 to 15 years.  Fordham's reputation in China seems awful. I haven't met a single person in China who knows what is Fordham. How many chinese are in their law school?  Disregarding cost, I am more leaning towards Boston now, soliciting advice. Plus the director of admission at BU wrote personal notes on the acceptance letter, is that their common practice or something I am really specially, i hope for the later anyway. Thanks.

可能是都写,我的上面也有


作者: 秋天的虫子    时间: 2007-4-11 04:23

“Fordham's reputation in China seems awful. ”

“How many chinese are in their law school?” 1?just a hearsay 


作者: honna    时间: 2007-4-11 05:09
如果你是打算10年后回中国,重要的不是你的学校名气,而是你在哪个所干,FORDHAM去更好的所的几率比BU大20%左右,BU,TOP1/3去大所,Fordham,TOP1/2.
但是如果你已经有本科法律学位,我建议你去BU,省一年时间和金钱

作者: neohawk    时间: 2007-4-11 05:17
以下是引用honna在2007-4-11 5:09:00的发言:
如果你是打算10年后回中国,重要的不是你的学校名气,而是你在哪个所干,FORDHAM去更好的所的几率比BU大20%左右,BU,TOP1/3去大所,Fordham,TOP1/2.
但是如果你已经有本科法律学位,我建议你去BU,省一年时间和金钱

Fordham和USC应该选哪个?哪个进大所的几率更大一点。Fordham同学发信来提醒deposit呢,正在犹豫要不要先交上再说。
作者: 秋天的虫子    时间: 2007-4-11 05:43
fordham也可以advanced standing滴。。。
作者: 秋天的虫子    时间: 2007-4-11 05:52
以下是引用秋天的虫子在2007-4-11 5:43:00的发言:
fordham也可以advanced standing滴。。。

可能是case by case,本人对上述言论不承担法律责任


作者: honna    时间: 2007-4-11 06:21
neohawk兄,看你想在哪干了,如果想在NYC,那肯定是FORDHAM,如果想在加州,就USC吧,这两个学校从某种意义上说都不是national school.
费用貌似两个都是很高的

作者: funnytiger    时间: 2007-4-11 07:04

I agree with people here. It is matter of where you want to work when you graduate.

Going back to China while making half million US dollars is distance away. Let it not cloud your judgement.


作者: Jimoney    时间: 2007-4-11 09:29

有没有在Boston U 和 Fordham 的同学或校友呀, 真想和你们聊聊。 biglaw 就业方面Fordham 会比BU 强这么多吗。


作者: honna    时间: 2007-4-11 11:13
强20%不算很多吧,考虑到纽约的市场.而且BU的图书馆很差,这个你要考虑
作者: funnytiger    时间: 2007-4-11 11:49

if you don't care where to work. Boston U is pretty good. How can you lose?


作者: 秋天的虫子    时间: 2007-4-11 12:21
以下是引用honna在2007-4-11 11:13:00的发言:
强20%不算很多吧,考虑到纽约的市场.而且BU的图书馆很差
fordham has lockers in bathroom...
作者: Lilac29    时间: 2007-4-12 04:31

BU ranks No.2 in Boston now. (was ranking No. 3 two years ago. )  :-)  Fordham is always No. 3 in NYC.

Depends where you want to practice. If you want to practice in New York, probably Fordham is better. The location is really nice. Lincoln center. There will be a lot of free concert in summer.

congratulations!


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作者: honna    时间: 2007-4-12 04:39
考虑到工作和声望,bc一直是在BU前面.
免费音乐会?我只知道10美元的学生赶场票,有机会给我说说

作者: 秋天的虫子    时间: 2007-4-12 06:02

"BU ranks No.2 in Boston now. (was ranking No. 3 two years ago. )  :-)  Fordham is always No. 3 in NYC."

Loyola is No.3 in LA and Chicago-Kent is No.3 in Chicago, so what?


作者: honna    时间: 2007-4-12 06:43
这个...还是有区别的,Loyola和kent都是50名开外的学校了...
作者: Jimoney    时间: 2007-4-12 10:47

 看LSAC report, Fordham law 好像没有一个外国人那, 怎么会这样?我不会是去那的第一个JD外国人吧。


作者: honna    时间: 2007-4-12 11:17
有可能,呵呵,没事,NY还怕外国人少吗
作者: Lilac29    时间: 2007-4-12 22:31
Fordham自己也说在纽约排名第三。Brooklyn 也强调在纽约的名次,而不是总名次。BU,BC, Fordham 这几个排名20多的学校甚至包括50名开外Loyala,Kent,Brooklyn, 因为自身的地理优势,找工作相对还是容易得多。"其实除了前15名的学校,其它大抵在选择中以地理位置为主。"(源自USNews)
作者: honna    时间: 2007-4-12 22:43
源自亲身经历才是最准的
作者: Jimoney    时间: 2007-4-20 10:50

Question here:

According to USnews, the 25%-75% private sector salary for fordham and bu graduates are 70k-125k and 110k-125k respectively.

If fordham places half of the class in biglaw in NYC, why is there a huge difference in salary at the lower end ? is that those fordham graduates who couldn't get into biglaw fare far worse than that of bu graduates?  what am i missing here.

Thanks.


作者: neohawk    时间: 2007-4-20 11:04
以下是引用Jimoney在2007-4-20 10:50:00的发言:

Question here:

According to USnews, the 25%-75% private sector salary for fordham and bu graduates are 70k-125k and 110k-125k respectively.

If fordham places half of the class in biglaw in NYC, why is there a huge difference in salary at the lower end ? is that those fordham graduates who couldn't get into biglaw fare far worse than that of bu graduates?  what am i missing here.

Thanks.

Maybe the less paid graduates of BU did not turn in the survey.


作者: funnytiger    时间: 2007-4-20 11:36
以下是引用Jimoney在2007-4-20 10:50:00的发言:

Question here:

According to USnews, the 25%-75% private sector salary for fordham and bu graduates are 70k-125k and 110k-125k respectively.

If fordham places half of the class in biglaw in NYC, why is there a huge difference in salary at the lower end ? is that those fordham graduates who couldn't get into biglaw fare far worse than that of bu graduates?  what am i missing here.

Thanks.

good finding!

you are right. the risk of going to a lower ranked school is that you cannot screw up your grades in law school. if you fall into the second half of the class, you are dead meat. (in law, we call it "a job in toliet law")

if you are afraid of those hopeless law classes, go to the highest ranked school you can possibly go.


作者: neohawk    时间: 2007-4-20 12:50
以下是引用funnytiger在2007-4-20 11:36:00的发言:

good finding!

you are right. the risk of going to a lower ranked school is that you cannot screw up your grades in law school. if you fall into the second half of the class, you are dead meat. (in law, we call it "a job in toliet law")

if you are afraid of those hopeless law classes, go to the highest ranked school you can possibly go.

This should not be the only reason, otherwise it will be pretty difficult to understand the lower-bound salary difference between UCLA and USC.


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作者: jeremyang    时间: 2007-4-21 15:15
If you want biglaw in NY, Fordham is the choice.  You cant beat the location and the top third really places very well in NY. (most in V50 or better)

If you are not sure where you want to practice law at this moment, BU is the choice. There are decent numbers of BU graduates got offers from biglaw in NY or DC area.

作者: mmmxxtt    时间: 2007-4-27 19:50

Fordham is quite good in NYC.


作者: 况天佑    时间: 2007-4-28 15:19
哦,这样
作者: 慕萧峰    时间: 2007-6-14 06:41
只有在NYC工作过才知道location的重要。




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