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作者: jerry880    时间: 2007-3-31 10:15
标题: 祥述 Kelley VS USC

本人背景:big 4 (4years)+financial advisor (2years), top university bachelor in China. average G, T and GPA. 想今年出国,不想再考。

今后打算:准备向finance, IB或者资产管理等方面发展,并且在适当的时候想出来创业。

两个学校的排名:Kelley VS USC:24和21(USNews 2008)。Kelley VS USC:18和21(BusinessWeeks 2006)。纵观这几年的排名Kelley是老牌MBA一直在各大排行榜上稳定在20名左右。USC则多在20名至30名徘徊。

两个学校的优劣分析(其他的不说,只说不同点):

Kelley:最大的好处就是便宜。应该是20名以内最便宜的学校吧,相信这个对很多人都是比较有吸引力的。最大的劣势就是地理位置,mba虽然是学知识,但也是交朋友,混关系的好时机,各人感觉kelley的地理位置制约了其晋升顶级mba的道路,这个劣势将一直延续下去,并且很难改观。

USC:最大好处就是地理位置好,想想加州那么好的地方,真不舍得放弃阿。学校是好学校,但周围的UCLA, UC-berkeley及Stanford很难超越,竞争激烈。据说来学校招聘的大投行不是很多,前几年据说工作不是很好找。另外,学费加生活费大大的高。

目前都不知道有没有奖学金,以上是我对学校的一些研究。希望大家帮我参谋一下,特别是Kelley和USC的校友。谢了先。


作者: royzhujian    时间: 2007-3-31 10:41
觉得加州的学校数量和东部不能比得把...如果在东北部那是真的激烈, 不过机会也多把....
作者: hswdream    时间: 2007-3-31 13:05

good analysis


作者: fayer    时间: 2007-3-31 14:39
Kelley is strong at Marketing and Corporate Finance.
作者: kcheong15    时间: 2007-3-31 17:16
USC!  Good networking in asia and unbeatable location for living / job.
作者: jerry880    时间: 2007-4-1 11:16
USC的finance不是很强吧,如果无意向影视方面发展,是否在这个学校读书比较好。另外,据说这个学校富人的孩子比较多,咱们发展中国家的人去了会不会受到歧视阿
作者: forgmat2008    时间: 2007-4-2 07:22
我觉得先看哪个学校给的钱多,再考虑这个问题吧。如果都没钱,当然选USC
作者: jerry880    时间: 2007-4-2 09:55
如果都没有钱,当然Kelley了。因为Kelley便宜阿。上了USC我怕自己就破产了
作者: sjseido    时间: 2007-4-2 10:34

Vote for USC if there is no scholarship from both.

Attending business school is for sure a big investment; however, an MBA from a decent school also means a strong return on investment throughout your career.


作者: jerry880    时间: 2007-4-2 17:13

费用:

USC据说是一年59,000刀(学费杂费48,000+生活费11,000)。那么两年118,000刀,即944,000RMB(汇率暂按8:1)。

Kelley一年43,965刀(学费杂费33,965+生活费10,000)。那么两年87,930刀,即703,440RMB(汇率暂按8:1)。

差24万大元人民币呢。去USC值不值呢?


作者: 米可可    时间: 2007-4-2 18:12

Hi, LZ. Have you got the official package from Kelley? Any scholarship?

I also get Kelley's admission and my interest is in finance.

In addition, we are both from Renmin U. Haha.


作者: starskyly    时间: 2007-4-2 20:41
LZ收到Kelley的Packet了吗?
作者: dagger0202    时间: 2007-4-6 15:54
vote for L.A.'s prime location!
作者: graceyin7    时间: 2007-4-10 02:29
Kelley的課程特色是什麼? 哪位過來人分析一下?
作者: zxsteven    时间: 2007-4-10 02:50

USC sounds better.....Location, location, location.....plus its strong alum net work as a private school and brand name in Asia.


作者: tqzw    时间: 2007-4-10 09:51

Thinking about it: what does it mean if the location is better but ranking is not?

The one who has no good location must have something else sepcial, and it may be what you want.


作者: hccihll    时间: 2007-4-10 10:06
以下是引用tqzw在2007-4-10 9:51:00的发言:

Thinking about it: what does it mean if the location is better but ranking is not?

The one who has no good location must have something else sepcial, and it may be what you want.

I can not agree with you any more!!  Although USC just like some B-schools has good location, it still can not be rank in top B-schools.  It means that there must be some thing which USC still need to improve or USC does not have.  It also means that some B-Schools which may not have good location but have much higher ranking than USC must have some thing special or some thing stronger than USC.  Just for referance~  Thank twice!
作者: henrywang1220    时间: 2007-4-10 11:15
hehe, Kelley really has smart people
作者: zxsteven    时间: 2007-4-10 12:17
以下是引用hccihll在2007-4-10 10:06:00的发言:

I can not agree with you any more!!  Although USC just like some B-schools has good location, it still can not be rank in top B-schools.  It means that there must be some thing which USC still need to improve or USC does not have.  It also means that some B-Schools which may not have good location but have much higher ranking than USC must have some thing special or some thing stronger than USC.  Just for referance~  Thank twice!

What is the big deal in slight difference of ranking? If Kelly ranks in top 10 while USC stays in 20s, I will call  a difference. I am not from USC, but I am sure if you talk to those Americans, private schools still mean a lot. When I first came to this country six years ago, I was really surprised to see people here only care about local public schools and those well-known private schools. Internationals know (or care) more about rankings than those americans.

As for B-schools, it is hard to deny the fact that location would add more values as long as the ranking difference is not that huge.


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作者: fayer    时间: 2007-4-11 13:53

Either location or reputation is one consideration. But what means much to us? Every one will get different answer because each has different career goal. Even though two people both want to enter I/B or consulting, their goals are not the same. So lz, our suggestions and feeling of a school are only from personal perspective, no one should know your goal more clearer than yourself. What means much to your career? Location, network, background, reputation, ranking ...... ? Or a combination of these reasons.


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