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作者: pekingpuppy    时间: 2003-11-2 00:47
标题: SC大全42题选C,小安45真题SC第4题选A
版主请把这帖删掉吧,前人已经讨论得很仔细了,再开新帖容易引起混乱。谢谢!

是一道题,答案不一样谁能给统一一下?

42.    According to a survey of graduating medical students conducted by the Association of American Medical Colleges, minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice in socioeconomically deprived areas.
(A) minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice
(B) minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than other graduates who plan on practicing
(C) minority graduates are nearly four times as likely as other graduates to plan on practicing
(D) it is nearly four times more likely that minority graduates rather than other graduates will plan to practice
(E) it is nearly four times as likely for minority graduates than other graduates to plan to practice



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作者: nina23    时间: 2003-11-2 01:08
应该是A吧,比较的是LIKELY 的程度,C错在other graduates 没有加ARE.
作者: gemj    时间: 2003-11-2 01:40
好,就接着这个再来讨论。非得有个定论!
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作者: gemj    时间: 2003-11-2 02:53
我想这个题目现在应该有定论了。我们从选项A的软肋more likely than … in入手!
(1) 首先,如果选项A正确的话,那么为什么不是更加IDIOMATIC的下列形式:
minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates to plan to practice下面是一个与选项A高度类似的例子,用的是TO而非IN(所有阅读和逻辑中出现的类似结构中没有用IN的):
(D) People who visit a zoo in a given year are two times more likely to visit a pure aquarium that year than are people who do not visit a zoo.

(2) 其次,如果把IN理解为“在某一方面”,那么句子的前半部分就没有了下文:
minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates (in planning to practice in socioeconomically deprived areas)
minority graduates比other graduates更加什么呢?不知道!只知道在某个方面(in planning to practice in socioeconomically deprived areas)更可能。换句话说,“minority graduates are nearly four times more likely”并不是一个完整的表达,它必须要带宾语,而这个宾语只能由TO来引导。

当然,IN的例子也有,看下面的:
Although the concentration of atmospheric methane is more than two orders of magnitude lower than that of carbon dioxide, it cannot be ignored: the radiative properties of methane make it 20 times more effective, molecule for molecule, than carbon dioxide in absorbing radiant heat.
但是,这个例子中的前半部分在意思上是完整的,也就是the radiative properties of methane make it 20 times more effective本身能说得通,effective已经把所要表达的意思都完整地表达了。

(3) 最后再看三个as likely as的结构,后面一律跟TO。(这也间接地说明了more likely than … 后面要跟TO啊!)
Black Americans are, on the whole, about twice as likely as White Americans to develop high blood pressure. This likelihood also holds for westernized Black Africans when compared to White Africans.

(D) An MRI is just as likely as an angiogram to identify an arterial blockage.

(D) Legal principles are just as likely as legal rules to have terms that have both core and peripheral meanings.

也就是说,A错误,C正确。
作者: nina23    时间: 2003-11-2 06:08
以下是引用gemj在2003-11-2 2:53:00的发言:
我想这个题目现在应该有定论了。我们从选项A的软肋more likely than … in入手!
  (1) 首先,如果选项A正确的话,那么为什么不是更加IDIOMATIC的下列形式:
  minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates to plan to practice下面是一个与选项A高度类似的例子,用的是TO而非IN(所有阅读和逻辑中出现的类似结构中没有用IN的):
  (D) People who visit a zoo in a given year are two times more likely to visit a pure aquarium that year than are people who do not visit a zoo.

  (2) 其次,如果把IN理解为“在某一方面”,那么句子的前半部分就没有了下文:
  minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates (in planning to practice in socioeconomically deprived areas)
  minority graduates比other graduates更加什么呢?不知道!只知道在某个方面(in planning to practice in socioeconomically deprived areas)更可能。换句话说,“minority graduates are nearly four times more likely”并不是一个完整的表达,它必须要带宾语,而这个宾语只能由TO来引导。

  当然,IN的例子也有,看下面的:
  Although the concentration of atmospheric methane is more than two orders of magnitude lower than that of carbon dioxide, it cannot be ignored: the radiative properties of methane make it 20 times more effective, molecule for molecule, than carbon dioxide in absorbing radiant heat.
  但是,这个例子中的前半部分在意思上是完整的,也就是the radiative properties of methane make it 20 times more effective本身能说得通,effective已经把所要表达的意思都完整地表达了。

  (3) 最后再看三个as likely as的结构,后面一律跟TO。(这也间接地说明了more likely than … 后面要跟TO啊!)
  Black Americans are, on the whole, about twice as likely as White Americans to develop high blood pressure. This likelihood also holds for westernized Black Africans when compared to White Africans.

  (D) An MRI is just as likely as an angiogram to identify an arterial blockage.

  (D) Legal principles are just as likely as legal rules to have terms that have both core and peripheral meanings.

  也就是说,A错误,C正确。


我查了字典,LIKELY后面用TO 的结构比较好,可是C中是缺成分的呀,如果没有ARE比较双方的中心词岂不是不一样了?
作者: gemj    时间: 2003-11-2 11:16
以下是引用nina23在2003-11-2 6:08:00的发言:

我查了字典,LIKELY后面用TO 的结构比较好,可是C中是缺成分的呀,如果没有ARE比较双方的中心词岂不是不一样了?

C中缺什么成份?与上面的3个例子不是一模一样吗?
作者: perpetual    时间: 2004-8-9 13:55

敬佩!


作者: lifelover    时间: 2004-10-23 05:10
niu!
作者: yuliyang    时间: 2005-4-16 15:54
当时选的时候,直接就去找 to do 结构了,没想到会引来那么大的麻烦。吸取了。
作者: haoning    时间: 2005-5-27 10:12

而且我记得白勇的书上说过,n times more这个结构有歧义,一般不用的。


比如说,2 times more,可以理解为2倍,也可以理解为3倍。


这是我排除A的原因。


作者: 小女公子    时间: 2005-6-6 14:26
我记得OG上说过 n times more..than  redundant……又记不得是哪题了。复习OG的时候再翻出来。
作者: dadada007    时间: 2005-6-14 21:25

i choose  A though


from OG


158. With only 5 percent of the world's population, United States citizens consume 28 percent of its nonrenewable resources, drive more than one-third of its automobiles, and use 21 times more water per capita than Europeans do.



(A)  With



(B)   As



(C)  Being



(D)  Despite having



(E)   Although accounting for



251. The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970's. .



(A)  extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than



(B)  extinction; its numbers are now five times more than



(C)  extinction, their numbers now fivefold what they were



(D)  extinction, now with fivefold the numbers they had



(E)   extinction, now with numbers five times greater than



OG anw.A


and some examples also can be found in LZM,times+比较级是可以的


另外C中的are,我认为不能去掉,虽然有plan on这个词组。再者,four times as likely as 不如four times more likely  ,times as ...as是...多少倍,而times more than。。比...多多少倍。


some people argue 这个题目是否考likely to do?不太同意,likely 本身是个形容词,可以说more likely ...而in这个是跟likely没关系的把,in 表示在某方面怎样怎样,所以还是选A,个人意见


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作者: remona9t    时间: 2005-6-20 10:51

看了上面的讨论,查了一下longman,觉得C应该是正确的,关于是four times more likely 还是four times as likely as,这两种用法在longman当中都出现过,所以从语法上来讲都应该是正确的。


觉得A的错误不是关于four times more 或者是four times as likely as的歧义问题,而正是A选项在than后面错误的补上了are, are is redundant here.


请看longman中的例句:


1
used when you are comparing two people, things, situations etc
as ... as


Some of the doctors are paid almost twice as much as the nurses.--注意其中的结构:主语(some of the doctors)+谓语(are paid)+twice(这里可以被替换为four times or five times)+as much as(这里可以被替换为as likely as)+ 比较的名词,这里的nurses(are paid)在书面英语中被简洁的省略了。


As homeowners, disabled people are more likely than other households to experience poor housing conditions.


Young drivers are far more likely to have accidents than older drivers.--这里也没有用 than are older drivers


We work as hard as any other team in England.


--from longman


longman中所有的例句都将比较后面的谓语动词省略,就像上面的那道例句,为什么不说,we work as hard as any other team work in england,因为这样不简洁。


根据以往nn的总结,结构:主语 + be + adj比较级 + than, 后面应当省略be动词


A的第2个错误是likely的用法,楼上说likely本身是个形容词,可以说more likely,但在longman里likely做形容词讲的时候,通常是用likely to do/be something,这样的用法,或者是likely+noun,没有见到过likely in doing 这样的结构,我认为这样的结构是unidiomatic,


open to discussion






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作者: yukon    时间: 2005-6-24 17:43
支持C,因为赞成be likely to do 结构
作者: fchn951    时间: 2005-6-24 17:55

A的错误可以用it is likely to do..来排除。


作者: xinfaxian    时间: 2005-7-9 21:52

一直坚持A的。因为觉得***times as likely as...的说法太奇怪了...


可是看到gemj大牛gg给出的下面的例子,没有话说了,考试碰到就选c了。


其他帖子里有人问老美,有时候他们凭语感给的答案也不一定对,还是要向gemj前辈们学习,严谨治学。


Black Americans are, on the whole, about twice as likely as White Americans to develop high blood pressure. This likelihood also holds for westernized Black Africans when compared to White Africans.


作者: 温弗雷德    时间: 2005-7-30 14:31

我是这么看的:nearly(或at least)+ four times 后不能再进行比较,只能用 as。。。as的形式


作者: wayne8888    时间: 2005-8-4 19:09

同意楼上


作者: hncsxj    时间: 2005-8-6 09:57

说c改变意思的可能有问题。我们中国人绝对是这样以为,因为小学做数学题就是绕这个。可是,看这个例子:


Although the concentration of atmospheric methane is more than two orders of magnitude lower than that of carbon dioxide, it cannot be ignored: the radiative properties of methane make it 20 times more effective, molecule for molecule, than carbon dioxide in absorbing radiant heat.
这里老外不会指实际是他的21倍吧?


还有,说那个地震波的破坏力100 times more than ....,决不会说他的破会力是后者的101倍吧?


作者: michellechang    时间: 2005-8-24 14:46
以下是引用haoning在2005-5-27 10:12:00的发言:

而且我记得白勇的书上说过,n times more这个结构有歧义,一般不用的。


比如说,2 times more,可以理解为2倍,也可以理解为3倍。


这是我排除A的原因。


你是不是记错了?

2 times歧义是在于两次还是两倍吧


作者: rosebudxiaojie    时间: 2005-9-14 16:10
以下是引用温弗雷德在2005-7-30 14:31:00的发言:

我是这么看的:nearly(或at least)+ four times 后不能再进行比较,只能用 as。。。as的形式



为什么不能再进行比较, 可以的呀
作者: tom_2008    时间: 2005-9-18 00:25
不要钻牛角尖
作者: akelee    时间: 2005-10-7 00:57

A吧..原文的意思是four times more likely than....就是多四倍.也是前面的是后面的五倍.....而C中是four times as likely as ...是四倍哦...



作者: dreamerps    时间: 2005-10-10 08:30
PFPF!!!
作者: puccamummy    时间: 2005-10-30 20:45

为什么A是倒装?


为什么不是minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than other graduates are...?



作者: haizhongjin    时间: 2005-11-7 20:34

王海波讲的"倍数"表达法:


(1)倍数+as+adj.原级+as


 Peter is three times as old as I am.


(2) 倍数+more than


Peter is twice older than I.


(3) 倍数+n.+of


This house is three times the size of mine.


(4) 倍数+that of


His weight is three times that of mine.


这是托福中讲的语法,不知道在这里有多少适用,仅给大家做个参考


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作者: 入画    时间: 2006-2-12 19:33
以下是引用remona9t在2005-6-20 10:51:00的发言:

觉得A的错误不是关于four times more 或者是four times as likely as的歧义问题,而正是A选项在than后面错误的补上了are, are is redundant here.


同意


作者: RichardSong    时间: 2006-3-10 22:23

我是这么理解A选项的,sb.(sth.) is more likely in doing sth.


某人(某物)在做某事方面可能性更大(比较一种可能性),likely 并非通


常见到的likely to do sth.的意思。其次,plan to do sth.也非不可。


作者: chasemba    时间: 2006-3-22 14:51
我也觉的是A, A说的是在Planning to这个行为状态上。 C是说动作。
作者: hawkinsxie    时间: 2006-6-16 18:32

我选C

likely to do是idiom,而且OG中明确说likely要跟to


作者: mymengming    时间: 2006-7-4 10:19

说c改变意思的可能有问题。我们中国人绝对是这样以为,因为小学做数学题就是绕这个。可是,看这个例子:

Although the concentration of atmospheric methane is more than two orders of magnitude lower than that of carbon dioxide, it cannot be ignored: the radiative properties of methane make it 20 times more effective, molecule for molecule, than carbon dioxide in absorbing radiant heat.
这里老外不会指实际是他的21倍吧?

还有,说那个地震波的破坏力100 times more than ....,决不会说他的破会力是后者的101倍吧?

重要的是谁知道文章中说的是几倍?

第二,文章中的be动词是要省略的,如:

he is taller than me.

he has as many dogs as me.

这些都是初中的简单的句型,大家在考试的时候一定要学会联想,想想那些最简单的句型,只有那些才是根本,才是最可靠最不会错的^_^


作者: michenny    时间: 2006-8-25 13:12

the "in" in A may be not properly used.


作者: luluQ    时间: 2006-10-18 07:57

C for sure

Daquan has a similar one


作者: cccccc0    时间: 2006-12-21 11:24
以下是引用haoning在2005-5-27 10:12:00的发言:

而且我记得白勇的书上说过,n times more这个结构有歧义,一般不用的。

比如说,2 times more,可以理解为2倍,也可以理解为3倍。

这是我排除A的原因。

严重同意haoning MM的说法`~~顶一下~~
作者: aircavalry    时间: 2007-11-12 11:14

相信gemj NN


作者: kevintown    时间: 2008-7-29 01:27

我来完结了这个争议吧!

有人争议AA错误在于are:     X is ...more ..than Y

虽然plan to doplan on doing都可以
                    

Be likely to是固定搭配,  C选项!

 

大量ETS最爱的Nytimes.com 例句:

用法一模一样!

Men are 16 times as likely as women to be colorblind. 

可能是原文:

Physicians who are members of underrepresented minorities are more likely to work in socioeconomically deprived areas.

Physicians who are members of underrepresented minorities are more likely to work in socioeconomically deprived areas.

Hispanics are half as likely as whites to receive pain medications in emergency rooms for the same injuries

In recent presidential elections, affluent voters, who tend to be liberal on cultural matters, are about twice as likely as middle-class and poor voters to…..

Physicians with high levels of belief were more than seven times as likely as those with low levels to believe that religion is a large…


作者: kevintown    时间: 2008-7-29 01:29

Nytimes一个2种用法都有的句子:

Men are at least twice as
            likely
            as
women to be alcoholics and three times more likely
        to be drug addicts.


作者: qzsea    时间: 2008-8-4 21:24
佩服gmgj的解释啊
作者: balabaladou7    时间: 2009-3-6 13:49

gmgj的分析思路很棒!

新PREP破解中答案已确定:C

According to…, minority graduates arefour times as likely as…to plan on…

 

A. 主语比较,are多余。Be likely in doing…用法错误,应为be likely to do…

B. who plan on practicing修饰graduates
        
改变原句含义,使原句意义不完整。

C. 正确。four times as likely asfour times more likely than…都是可以的(OG同6例,各3例)。Be likely to do..使用正确,plan on doing…使用正确。

D. 改变原句含义(离谱)。It is likely that…句型可以用。OG 10 237

E. four times asthan错。


作者: 河西学校    时间: 2009-3-6 16:16

好帖


作者: lijiahui0422    时间: 2009-9-8 10:35

解释的真的很好,A 中的不是多余,可以说是错误了,补全的话没法理解

而in doing 在句子中的不完整行说的一针见血


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kevintown 发表于 2008-7-29 01:27
我来完结了这个争议吧!有人争议A,A错误在于are:     X is ...more ..than Y 虽然pla ...

Smithtown University's fund-raisers were successful in their contacts with potential donors who had never given before about as frequently as were fund-raisers for other universities in their contacts with such people.

这个句子 结构是不是和本题A的结构一样呢?
(句子来源于GWD CR里的选项)




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