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作者: joywzy    时间: 2003-10-28 10:44
标题: OG-109

109.    Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.
(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills
(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills

如果不考虑其它错误,C/D/E中,为什么OG说require of .... employees to pay, in whch of makes the phrase incorrect????

谢谢
作者: braveMBA    时间: 2003-10-28 11:28
sb require of sb to do 是 wordy的表达方式,直接使用sb require sb to do.

require of sb to do 经常用在被动的方式或者说过去分词的形式来修饰名词,例如 sb/sth required of sb to do is/does......,以前讨论过,另外OG里还有一题,你用required of 搜索一下OG。
作者: joywzy    时间: 2003-10-28 11:41
BRAVE GG:

在OG181中,出现了require of firms to survive, ...such firms

因为我记住了这个例子,所以想这种用法也是对的。require of sb. to do sth.
作者: braveMBA    时间: 2003-10-28 12:06
JOY,以后问题建议用统一的格式,看看GEMJ斑竹的小字报说明。:)

请注意,181就是我说的,是过去分词(表示被动的含义)才使用required of sb to do sth,当主动的时候,不使用这种方式,应该直接使用require sb to do sth! 如OG 109中的讲解。
作者: joywzy    时间: 2003-10-28 15:24
谢谢brave GG.这又是我的一个语法缺漏啊.
作者: joywzy    时间: 2003-11-3 19:22
require of sb. sth.是不是与require of sb. to do sth .一样,只能用于被动或过去分词的修饰上??谢谢。
作者: anchoret    时间: 2003-11-3 19:50
以下是引用joywzy在2003-11-3 19:22:00的发言:
require of sb. sth.是不是与require of sb. to do sth .一样,只能用于被动或过去分词的修饰上??谢谢。



idiom:

require sb to do
require of sb that...
作者: joywzy    时间: 2003-11-3 19:52
以下是引用joywzy在2003-11-3 19:22:00的发言:
require of sb. sth..是不是与require of sb. to do sth .一样,只能用于被动或过去分词的修饰上??谢谢。


再问。小安,你再看看我的问题。
作者: anchoret    时间: 2003-11-3 19:55
1. require of sb that...不可以用require of sb sth

2. 完全可以用主动,不是只能用于被动或过去分词的修饰上

作者: joywzy    时间: 2003-11-3 20:26
以下是引用anchoret在2003-11-3 19:55:00的发言:
1. require of sb that...不可以用require of sb sth



LZM P 250有require of sb sth,可他举的例子却是 require of sb that...好奇怪。。。

作者: joywzy    时间: 2003-11-3 20:28
以下是引用anchoret在2003-11-3 19:55:00的发言:
2. 完全可以用主动,不是只能用于被动或过去分词的修饰上



谢谢小安。是这样的。
作者: JerryGuan    时间: 2004-2-21 00:42
以下是引用braveMBA在2003-10-28 11:28:00的发言:
sb    require    of    sb    to    do    是    wordy的表达方式,直接使用sb    require    sb    to    do.

require    of    sb    to    do    经常用在被动的方式或者说过去分词的形式来修饰名词,例如    sb/sth    required    of    sb    to    do    is/does......,以前讨论过,另外OG里还有一题,你用required    of    搜索一下OG。


sb/sth是中心词,required    of    sb    to    do    is/does修饰sb/sth


sb/sth    (are/is)     required    of    sb    to    do    is/does


作者: 泰格尔    时间: 2004-7-24 23:00

我还不明白OG对于D的解释:In D, the phrase beginning regardless ... is awkward and wordy in addition to being illogical.


我想问的是,究竟是ETS认为“regardless of这一结构在GMAT语法中是错的”还是“ETS认为在该短语后接名词性从句是错,但若接名词就对了”???


但朗文认为regardless of = irrespective of, 且有如下例句:All children should have access to the latest technology, irrespective of where they live or how much their parents earn.


这该如何解释???谢谢!


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作者: alicely    时间: 2004-10-17 17:12

请nn看看这里

109. Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.
(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills
(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills

In C, the use of in rather than for is unidiomatic, and jobs of comparable skill confusedly suggests that the jobs rather than the workers possess the skills.

为什么说jobs of comparable skill confusedly suggests that the jobs rather than the workers possess the skills?


作者: alicely    时间: 2004-10-17 17:21

第二个问题:关于that的修饰对象

109. Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

不是认为“that"引导非限制定从,紧跟其修饰对象么

这个“that”是不是可能修饰它前面的“skill”,而不修饰“jobs”,可是按照题目应该修饰“jobs”,是不是“that”可以跳跃修饰呢?在og152里找到又一个that不紧接修饰对象的例子,请nn解释一下“that”引导定从修饰对象的情况吧:)

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作者: 心晴    时间: 2004-10-19 09:52

to alicely:jobs of comparable skill ,这里job是核心词,comparable skill 是修饰job的,所以说这个短语的意思是“有相应技能的工作”,类似的用of连接的两个词,一般都是of前是核心词,of后面的修饰of前面的词

关于第二个that的修饰问题,that引导定从的时候可以跳跃修饰,特别是本题that后面是are,所以在这里that只可能是修饰jobs,不可能是skill,没有歧义的。


作者: 心晴    时间: 2004-10-19 09:57

看了半天,还是没明白require of到底能不能用。我总结一下:

require sb. to do

require of sb that

这两种形式应该是都对的,大家都没有什么异议。

那require of sb to do呢?对吗?或者说是在什么情况下对?请NN解答。谢谢!:)


作者: r1418    时间: 2004-10-25 13:49

require 有3种用法

require sb to do,  require of sb that, require that

至于上面说到的that的问题,定语从句可以紧跟先行词,也可以跳跃修饰

至于如何判断修饰的是谁,可以看看that后面的谓语

拿这道题说,that 后面是are, 而skill是单数,所以that是修饰jobs


作者: zhoushao    时间: 2005-4-20 14:32
以下是引用r1418在2004-10-25 13:49:00的发言:

require 有3种用法


require sb to do,  require of sb that, require that


至于上面说到的that的问题,定语从句可以紧跟先行词,也可以跳跃修饰


至于如何判断修饰的是谁,可以看看that后面的谓语


拿这道题说,that 后面是are, 而skill是单数,所以that是修饰jobs


以下是引用心晴在2004-10-19 9:57:00的发言:

看了半天,还是没明白require of到底能不能用。我总结一下:


require sb. to do


require of sb that


这两种形式应该是都对的,大家都没有什么异议。


那require of sb to do呢?对吗?或者说是在什么情况下对?请NN解答。谢谢!:)

同问,require of sb to do被动就可以吗?为什么呢?
作者: 薰衣紫草    时间: 2005-4-21 07:05
require of sb + that(虚拟)
作者: zhoushao    时间: 2005-4-21 07:49
以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-4-21 7:05:00的发言:
require of sb + that(虚拟)


对于本题来说,是required of sb to do


og给的解释是说后面有such firms,所以要加of firm,但是能不能抽象成一般?


前辈们讨论的是被动,所以这个结构是对的,一般只有上面那三种说法


但是我想问问为什么?



作者: advantage    时间: 2005-6-24 16:17

require sb to do sth


require sb that...


require of sb that...


是GMAT中require的三个正确用法


作者: 番茄笑了    时间: 2005-7-7 10:44
以下是引用advantage在2005-6-24 16:17:00的发言:

require sb to do sth


require sb that...


require of sb that...


是GMAT中require的三个正确用法


我也同意楼上的意见,require最常见就是以上三种用法。OG181题ETS完全没有提到是否require of sb to do sth是一种固定用法!另外,我感觉required of firms to survive在og 181中的意思不太一样~原句是:

Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required of firms to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and ....., such firms tend to be very large.

这里的加粗部分我觉得应该理解为大量的调查研究费用是公司们生存的必要条件。在这里required of 的功能更接近于the requirement of 不过更为简洁。所以我觉得和其他的三种require的用法不一样!

一家之言,还请大家讨论!!


作者: diehard    时间: 2005-7-11 10:42

上面有NN们提到require sb that...


我查到require that...,但没查到require sb that...,


请问这个用法正确吗?


作者: diehard    时间: 2005-7-11 10:46

(D)  to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills


og解释说In D, the phrase beginning regardless ... is awkward and wordy in addition to being illogical.


扣了三顶大帽子,我却觉得还说得过去


欢迎板砖


作者: shaoheli    时间: 2005-9-1 22:57
ETS恨人哪,让我们学语言都学到孔已己的程度了,“require有三种用法...”
作者: milanforever    时间: 2005-11-10 05:50

总结NN们的关于require的用法讨论:




GMAT中require的四个正确用法:


require sb. to do


require of sb. that +虚拟


sth. required of sb. to do (required of sb是作定语修饰sth 的)


require that


作者: allenlwwlee    时间: 2006-2-3 10:48

Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required of firms to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and ....., such firms tend to be very large.

我的理解: 此处required是expenditures的定语,因此,require的用法只有三种,require sb to do sth, require sb that, and require of sb that
作者: tdyg    时间: 2006-2-20 07:26

过去分词做定语也是定语从句的简化,还原以后就是:


expenditures (which are) required of firms to survive


of firms 是把要求的对象显示出来的一种手段,所以还是四种用法。


sb1. require sb2. to do. 某人1要求某人2做某事

sth1.(be) required of sb to do sth2.某事1要求某人做某事2

sb. require that+动词原形...  某人要求...

sth. require of sb that+动词原形... 某事要求某人....


作者: 晴天小狗    时间: 2006-10-19 21:48

109.
            
Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A) that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are

(B) that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills

(C) to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are

(D) to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skillsA

(E) to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills

A中的that这里跳跃修饰没有问题,那么也就是说BDE中的分词是肯定不能跳跃修饰的?


作者: henry_guo1982    时间: 2007-1-3 08:41
以下是引用allenlwwlee在2006-2-3 10:48:00的发言:

Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required of firms to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and ....., such firms tend to be very large.

我的理解: 此处required是expenditures的定语,因此,require的用法只有三种,require sb to do sth, require sb that, and require of sb that

I agree with allen's viewpoint. "required" is modifying expenditures here and can be omitted.  
作者: rockmax    时间: 2008-7-26 15:13
what hell is going on!!  ehlp
作者: lpdeng    时间: 2008-8-18 13:20
以下是引用番茄笑了在2005-7-7 10:44:00的发言:

我也同意楼上的意见,require最常见就是以上三种用法。OG181题ETS完全没有提到是否require of sb to do sth是一种固定用法!另外,我感觉required of firms to survive在og 181中的意思不太一样~原句是:

Because of the enormous research and development expenditures required of firms to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and ....., such firms tend to be very large.

这里的加粗部分我觉得应该理解为大量的调查研究费用是公司们生存的必要条件。在这里required of 的功能更接近于the requirement of 不过更为简洁。所以我觉得和其他的三种require的用法不一样!

一家之言,还请大家讨论!!

那如果 of  改成 for 呢? 

the research and expenditures required FOR firms to survive 是不是正确的表达呢?


作者: tomzhou    时间: 2009-1-11 19:55

http://dict.ebigear.com/w/require+sth+of+sb/

require sth of sb   
固定搭配 
向(某人)要求(某物)

倒装为require of sb sth/that

会是这样的吗?


作者: wuyan830308    时间: 2009-5-2 05:16

require of sb to do sth是一种错误的结构,依照OG的解释,of使得phrase unidiomatic

对于181题,尽管用的是require of sb to do sth,但是这里的to do在句子里所表示的意思和所做的成分与require sb to do sth中的to do 是不一样的。

OG10-181中的to do是与require分开的,也就是说require of firms作的后置定语,而其后的to do表示目的,并不是require of sb to do sth的结构所致

而require sb to do sth不是表示目的,是表示一种宾语补足语的关系。

所以require仍旧是有三种用法!没有require of sb to do sth的用法






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