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作者: bipedalism    时间: 2003-10-22 10:40
标题: [求助]请牛牛们指点一下我的这篇习作.
In this argument, the author concludes that workers are generally apathetic about management issue is false, or at least outdated. To support his conclusion, the author points out that in a recently published survey indicates that 79 percent of the nearly 1,200 workers who responded to survey questionnaires expressed a high level of interest in the topics of corporate restructuring and redesign of benefits programs. At first glance, the author's argument seems to be somehow appealing, while closely examining the author 's logic and reasoning, we may find that neither these reasons provides sufficient support to the conclusion the author made and this argument suffers some serious logical flaws.

First of all, the argument relies on a groundless assumption that the result of survey can indicates the workers are apathetic about management is false, or al least outdate. However, the assumption is questionable because the author provides no evidence to support this crucial argument. The arguer fails to takes into account other factors that might cause or contribute to the result that the survey shows. It is probable that the workers who responded to survey are controled by some bigbrother; it is also probable that the workers who responded to survey have some other considersion to express them opinion. Any of these scenarios, if true, would show that the result of survey can not be accepted. Therefore,without ruling out these factors or presenting strenger evidence, the author cannot conclusively assert that workers are generally apathetic about management issue is false, or at least outdated.

In addition, the evidence that the author provides is insufficient to support the conclusion. One instance is rarely sufficient to establish a general conclusion. Unless the arguer can show that 1,200 worker is representive of all workers and that corporate restructuring and redesign of benefits programs is representive of  all aspects of management issues, the conclusion that worker are apathetic about management issue is false, or at least outdate is completely unwarranted. In fact, in face of such limited evidence, it is fallacious to draw any conclusion at all.

In conclusion, this argument is ineffective because the author commits the above-presented logical mistakes. The author should strengthen the conclusion that the workers are generally apathetic about management issuse is false, or at least outdated.



刚刚才写的,argument第8题.
摸板没有背熟,基本上是一边参照摸板,一边在写.而且看题目是还发现有个关键单词不认识.....惭愧ing
写完大概还有18秒结束.
用word检查了一下,大约380字, 有一些拼写和语法错误(太紧张,当时完全没法兼顾)

另: 各位牛牛,小弟的ISSUE几乎没法按时完成,我准备的摸板第一段超长, 大约180字,输完那个就差不多15分钟以上,请问,第一段的摸板有必要这么罗嗦么??
问了这么多,谢谢谢谢
作者: excellent    时间: 2003-10-22 12:56
In this argument, the author concludes that workers are generally apathetic about management issue is false

etc...

grammaticl error

you should focus on the structure, the grammar and the number of words.

我准备的摸板第一段超长, 大约180字,输完那个就差不多15分钟以上,请问,第一段的摸板有必要这么罗嗦么??

头重脚轻可不好,要注重论据的展开,中间穿插一些例子加以说明,效果会更好。
[此贴子已经被作者于2003-10-22 12:59:31编辑过]

作者: bipedalism    时间: 2003-10-22 20:35
谢谢excellent.我10月31号就考了.现在还有八天,应该怎么样安排时间,以尽量高效的提高呢??
请根据我的习作中所反应出来的情况赐教,谢谢.
另外,我有的时候感觉一下子想不到论点论据之类,是不是看看孙远的宝典,可以有效的解决?谢谢
作者: excellent    时间: 2003-10-22 20:46
首先,将黄金80题的题目打印出来,然后每天除了熟悉题目本身之外,想想论点论据,只要你反复几次,一定会大有收获,至少考试时不会很紧张,另外,可以找好朋友或父母把要讨论的题目说给他们听,让他们和你一起讨论,也会拓宽你的思路。

试着把论点、论据和例子写一写,没必要像考试那样,只不过简短的写写看,遇到不会写的单词查出来,几天之后,你也会发现大有收获。

祝你好运!考试顺利!
作者: bipedalism    时间: 2003-10-23 09:54
Thank you very much. I'll try my best.
作者: Taurus    时间: 2003-10-29 10:04
T来提提自己的意见:(意见在括号中。。)

以下是引用bipedalism在2003-10-22 10:40:00的发言:
In this argument, the author concludes that workers are generally apathetic about management issue is false, or at least outdated. To support his conclusion, the author points out that in a recently published survey indicates that 79 percent of the nearly 1,200 workers who responded to survey questionnaires expressed a high level of interest in the topics of corporate restructuring and redesign of benefits programs.

(病句。去掉in。)

At first glance, the author’s argument seems to be somehow appealing, while closely examining the author’s logic and reasoning, we may find that neither these reasons provides sufficient support to the conclusion the author made and this argument suffers some serious logical flaws.

(第一个问题,注意了,文章开篇没几句,author这个词已经出现无数次了,这是作文的大忌讳,想办法多用替代词,或者he之类的。he出现多了不是罪过,可author就是了。

第二,应该是neither of these reasons。

第三,seem和somehow是一种很微妙的叠义。如果是100%的相同,就不是seem了,既然seem,就一定是somehow意义上的。所以,建议去掉后者。

总的来说,这段不错,稍微润色一些,会好更多。例如:

At first glance, this argument seems to be appealing. However, a closer study of his logic shows that neither of these reasons provides sufficient support to the conclusion and the argument he provides suffers from some serious logical flaws.)

First of all, the argument relies on a groundless assumption that the result of survey can indicates (indicate)the workers are apathetic about management is false, or al least outdate. However, the assumption is questionable because the author provides no evidence to support this crucial argument. The arguer (he 就行了,这个词有点蹩脚。也许这是模板中的词?我不知道。)fails to takes into account other factors that might cause or contribute to (重复,我明白你要表达的意思,可以说direct or indirectly cause。)the result that the survey shows. It is probable that the workers who responded to (the)survey are controled by some bigbrother; it is also probable that the workers who responded to survey have some other considersion (错字,consideration)to express them(错误,their) opinion (opinions).

Any of these scenarios, if true, would (用could,表示可能发生。角度更客观。)show that the result of survey can not be accepted.

(到这里,我注意到show这个词也出现N次了。这句可以改为:
Any of these scenarios, if true, could lead to a rejection of the result of the survey.

还有一个细微问题,我发现你的survey总是不加冠词。这是个常见的语法错误。可数名词的前面一定要有冠词,定或不定,总之,要限定它一下。)

Therefore, without ruling out these factors or presenting strenger (stronger)evidence, the author cannot conclusively assert that workers are generally apathetic about management issue is false, or at least outdated.

(我意识到,这句话可能是题目中的原句。不过,那也不要一字不变的重复,这样一来,会影响你的文章的美观。来吧,改变一下句式:

..., the author cannot conclusively assert that it is false, or at least outdated to think workers are generically apathetic about management issue.

是不是好一些了呢?)

In addition, the evidence that the author provides is insufficient to support the conclusion. One instance is rarely sufficient to establish a general conclusion. Unless the arguer can show that 1,200 worker is (are )representive of all workers and that corporate restructuring and redesign of benefits programs is (are,这里是两个问题,由and连接着,不要用is。)representive of  all aspects of management issues, the conclusion that worker are apathetic about management issue is false, or at least outdate is completely unwarranted. In fact, in face of such limited evidence, it is fallacious to draw any conclusion at all.

In conclusion, this argument is ineffective because the author commits the above-presented logical mistakes. The author should strengthen the conclusion that the workers are generally apathetic about management issuse is false, or at least outdated.



以上意见,一家之言,仅供参考。T 没有考过GMAT,不知道它的作文方面的规矩,因此只是从general 的角度来看文章的。难免偏颇,请多加留意。

总的来说还不错,加油,加油!!!
作者: anchoret    时间: 2003-10-29 11:30
谢谢Taurus的帮忙
作者: Taurus    时间: 2003-10-29 11:40
以下是引用anchoret在2003-10-29 11:30:00的发言:
谢谢Taurus的帮忙



不客气,把星星还我就行了。。
作者: bipedalism    时间: 2003-12-2 23:24
耶,挖坟挖到宝贝了,太谢谢Taurus了.之前偶怎么没有注意到你的回帖,太可惜啦
偶现在正在准备二进宫,呵呵,你的指点太有帮助了
对了,你给我指出的一些错误就是原来得摸板上的.最近AA和AI各写了十来篇,总也觉得摸板有些蹩脚,看来就是这些问题了.
请牛人们继续指教哦,呵呵呵,小弟在此先行谢过......
作者: casamila    时间: 2003-12-6 17:20
可不可以问bipedalism
你上次考试awa的argument,多少分?
作者: Taurus    时间: 2003-12-7 12:29
以下是引用bipedalism在2003-12-2 23:24:00的发言:
耶,挖坟挖到宝贝了,太谢谢Taurus了.之前偶怎么没有注意到你的回帖,太可惜啦
偶现在正在准备二进宫,呵呵,你的指点太有帮助了
对了,你给我指出的一些错误就是原来得摸板上的.最近AA和AI各写了十来篇,总也觉得摸板有些蹩脚,看来就是这些问题了.
请牛人们继续指教哦,呵呵呵,小弟在此先行谢过......



不客气..

祝你好运!!~~
作者: bipedalism    时间: 2003-12-9 09:11
以下是引用casamila在2003-12-6 17:20:00的发言:
可不可以问bipedalism
你上次考试awa的argument,多少分?


ETS的成绩单现在都没有给我寄到,我也好想知道AWA成绩啊.我狂FT,都1个半月了.




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