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标题: 请问我申请美国TOP30 B---SCHOOL有戏吗? [打印本页]

作者: colin512    时间: 2006-11-2 22:47
标题: 请问我申请美国TOP30 B---SCHOOL有戏吗?

基本背景:今年六月毕业于一所重点外语类学校,专业是信息管理,辅修金融.

第一专业GPA:3.4 , 对于本科生直接申请PHD来说比较低,但其中第一年的GPA只有2.2,后三年均在3.8以左右,应该可以解释.(GPA是按照4分制计算,百分制计算为89/100)

辅修的金融专业GPA3.7(93/100).

T:637    GMAT770,没有考GRE

今年6月进入一家世界排名大概4-----7名的管理咨询公司工作,职位是商业分析员,但发现自己其实更适合做研究,不想沿着公司标准的BA----MBA----顾问的职业路径发展,想去国外念PHD,最感兴趣的方向是strategy. 或者Organization Behavior .用管理咨询常用的SWOT分析法,我感觉我的优势是:

1 GPA还过得去

2 G,T分数比较理想

3 工作公司在商业圈比较有声誉(但如果今年申请到入学时也只有1年WE)

但劣势就很多了,

1 本科学校不是综合性大学,也没有很高的国际知名度,

2 虽然我申请的研究方向是商学院专业里面对数学要求比较低的(不知道对不对,但应该会比FIN这样的专业低),但毕竟是文科大学背景,不知道学校有没有偏见

3 本科期间没有PAPER,没有研究经历

4 拿不到很有力的学术上的推荐信,我的上司答应给我写,但他是KELLOGG的MBA,我回学校也很难找到学术上比较有力的推荐.

 

像我这种情况,应该定位大概多少名的学校呢?


[此贴子已经被作者于2006-11-8 13:04:48编辑过]

作者: ProfCPA    时间: 2006-11-2 23:44
1. 花更多时间了解phd,决定要不要申请。
2. 多积累一些工作经验。
3. 可以先考虑读个master,这样比较有机会申请到比较top的学校。

作者: jadelo    时间: 2006-11-3 00:35
以下是引用colin512在2006-11-2 22:47:00的发言:

今年6月进入一家世界排名大概4-----7名的管理咨询公司工作,职位是商业分析员,但发现自己其实更适合做研究,不想沿着公司标准的BA----MBA----顾问的职业路径发展,想去国外念PHD,最感兴趣的方向是strategy. 或者Organization Behavior .用管理咨询常用的SWOT分析法


To be honest, if what you are interested in isthe SWOT technique, perhaps you would be disppointed even if you get into a hD program.  I know it's very popular among practioners, but in academia, whether it's strategy or OB, people simply don't do SWOT.


There is a huge difference between conducting analysis in consulting firms versus doing research in academia. I'd suggest you to try to read some real academic papers on top journals (e.g., Strategic Management Journal, Academy of Management Journal) before you decide to apply, so that you can have a better idea about what it means in pursuing a PhD.

Good luck!


作者: colin512    时间: 2006-11-3 01:10
以下是引用jadelo在2006-11-3 0:35:00的发言:

To be honest, if what you are interested in isthe SWOT technique, perhaps you would be disppointed even if you get into a hD program.  I know it's very popular among practioners, but in academia, whether it's strategy or OB, people simply don't do SWOT.


There is a huge difference between conducting analysis in consulting firms versus doing research in academia. I'd suggest you to try to read some real academic papers on top journals (e.g., Strategic Management Journal, Academy of Management Journal) before you decide to apply, so that you can have a better idea about what it means in pursuing a PhD.

Good luck!

谢谢你的建议,我决定申请PHD的原因也是为了做真正能使自己感觉到有激情的事情,我觉得我喜欢 research 胜于现在从事的工作,希望可以在校园里静下心来做学术方面的事情,比较喜欢相对平静的生活,希望自己能有很大的思考空间,其实那几本学术杂志比如Strategic Management Journal,BW等,我读大学时也很喜欢,虽然有些似懂非懂但很享受这种生活。其实我决定申请PHD也经历了一番心理斗争,因为事实上以我的背景,我两年后申请到TOP MBA的可能性要远大于今年申请到TOP30 PHD的可能性,我的背景似乎更像一个典型的MBA申请者。但我觉得我应该把年轻最有激情,思维最活跃的几年拿来真正研究自己感兴趣的事情,只是不知道我应该怎样给自己定位。我觉得如果直接申请不到TOP30的话,我会先申请MASTER。

谢谢jadelo的建议


作者: colin512    时间: 2006-11-3 11:22

有人建议我申请一个北美的1---2年的硕士学位,再申请PHD

大家觉得呢?


作者: pumpkin    时间: 2006-11-3 15:12
以下是引用colin512在2006-11-3 11:22:00的发言:

有人建议我申请一个北美的1---2年的硕士学位,再申请PHD

大家觉得呢?

2楼ProfCPA就是这样建议的啊
作者: coachu    时间: 2006-11-4 10:00

Don't be too hurry for Phd. You can still work for another 1 or 2 years and then make the decision. Even then you really decide to take the academia route, you working experience will greatly help your future research in OB or strategy.It's not a waste of time. Many Phd students in top schools have rich experiences, althouth it's not required.


作者: colin512    时间: 2006-11-8 10:25
以下是引用czp6688在2006-11-8 8:31:00的发言:

你的背景在众多皎娇申请者中,显得很一般,甚至偏低下,申博概率几乎为零,申硕只能在美200名后大学,因为你的本科基础与商学无关,中国大学的辅修质量更差,上不了桌面,

我本科学的是信息管理与信息系统,也是商学院的专业呀.

我们和金融大一大二的课程几乎没差别的,学的是数学,英语,微观/宏观经济,会计学等.而金融大三,大四的专业课,如投资学等,我是通过辅修专业学的.

如果真的申请硕士都只能去美国200名以后大学,那我肯定不可能去了.毕竟我们公司的人申请MBA还是比较有优势.但我是真的想做学术上的东西,难道真的走不通吗?


作者: buckeyeTD    时间: 2006-11-8 11:08
If I were you, I would wait for a couple of years and see whether I will change my idea of going to a PhD program while face another chance to get admitted into a top MBA program. Deal?
作者: galluplinc    时间: 2006-11-8 12:36

你的GPA绝对是劣势,而不是优势

建议先工作几年或者先念master


作者: mauricewang    时间: 2006-11-11 02:00

if you aim at top 30, your background is not strongly competitve. Most US university do not know much about Chinese Universities, except the the top few ones. Your weakness is that you do not have Master's degree from an English speaking country. Anyway, you can try to apply. By the way, most top schools do not care about GMAT score too much. They regard those whose scores are above the bottom line as having the same General Mental Ability. But some low ranking schools do care about applicants' GMAT score. Good luck!


作者: colin512    时间: 2006-11-15 18:18
看来去美国是比较困难了,那么如果申请08年入学的PHD(到时候2年工作经验),目标是亚洲的学校KHU,KHUST,NTU和NUS,希望大吗?
作者: suaverie    时间: 2006-11-17 07:26

Don't be scared. You can always give a try. After all, there is nothing to lose.

But if I were you, I'd keep working for at least one more year and do more research on PhD programs. Salary in consulting company isn't bad and you can get extensive exposure to various businesses in a consulting job. You can decide to go for a PhD or MBA degree after finding out your interest and comapring different career development possibilities.

Looks like you are still young. Don't run into hD programs in a hurry. After all, PhD is a serious commitment. You don't want to waste your life on something you may not even like.






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