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作者: rheabubi 时间: 2006-10-22 00:10
标题: 請大家給點意見,謝謝拉

不知道我的條件, 可以申請哪個檔次的phd? 我本來想申請50-100, 但是看到論壇里的人都說那些50-100對gmat要求更加高. 真是比較confuse. 想問哪些學校對gmat要求不是那麼高的? 比較注重研究背景?

其實有時候真的很迷惘, 我就是一個對research很有興趣的人. 讓我在g, t上花功夫, 還不如拿這個心思去做研究. 但是沒辦法, 環境就是這樣. 當我看到大家都在為申請而辛苦的時候, 或者是我看到那些已經考了三次g的前輩的時候, 真是很佩服.

在這裡祝大家申請順利.

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-1-15 22:02:18编辑过]

作者: sm1 时间: 2006-10-22 06:19

My suggestion is that focusing on your current research rather than GMAT. You have already had two papers in hand that fully reflects your research potential. Try to follow your supervisor to learn more from research that is valuable for your future. GMAT is meaningless for your further research.

Does your supervisor have any connections with US universities? If yes, follow his advise. Strong relationships are very important on PhD applications. If no, you can search what scholars are doing research related to your topics in top tier journals. Please do not focus on university ranking. Supervisors are much more important.

作者: rheabubi 时间: 2006-10-22 10:52

Thanks a lot. I really appreciate your suggestion. Since I am not studying in Mainland China, the professors taught me before do not think GMAT score is a critical factor affected PhD application. And they say that 680 is OK for application. BUT CDer all suggest that only >700 will be considered by the Universities. More important, I do not have the motivation to test again since I think it is not so related to my research interest. I only spent less than 2 months to study GMAT and think that's enough for me. Don't want to experience again. Now my supervisor and I will write another paper, I am more interested in that. My supervisor taught me so much on research, and even applied for a lot of $$ to buy data.

My research interest is almost determined in my previous studies. Your suggestion is important for me. Thank you very much!

作者: galluplinc 时间: 2006-10-22 11:02
680的分数申请50－100的学校没有竞争力，这点是肯定的，但是你的研究背景不错，数学方面也好，这点是优势

作者: sm1 时间: 2006-10-22 11:32
I think most CDers put emphasis on GMAT is because they do not have English international papers and so professors rely much on GMAT to choose PhD applicants. If you have rich research experience, you can emphaize this strength in you PS. In fact, Australian scholars can also get their work published in top tier journals and you have already had Western academic training! However, I am not sure whether the connection of your professor with American professors is strong. I based on the connection of my ex-supervisor to choose American universities and so not difficult to find a suitable American professor to follow.

作者: rheabubi 时间: 2006-10-22 11:44

My supervisor suggested one U in America. And I found it is in top 10.

You know the candidates applied for top 10 are almost have GMAT scores >760. But I will still try, even I really do not have much confidence. I used to plan to apply universities in Australia. But since I have the contract to work as assistant untial next June. So I choose to apply American Universities first. I will go to the conference this December. Hope I will meet some professors from US in that area. But seems professors from US seldom join conference in Australia.

sm1 and Kelvin, Thanks a lot for your suggestions!

作者: stokowski 时间: 2006-10-22 13:11
What could harm you is GPA, but you may have some edge by publication (depend on the journal level of course, it's hard for me to tell what you mean A+ blahblah).

For those 50-100 schools, a 680 GMAT is so so due to inflation GMAT grade recently, but won't cost you that much.

The reason is simple, everyone knows GMAT tells nothing about Asian students' true ability on English communication.

A high GMAT, say, 730+ with other criterion OK could buy you an interview (in some schools, they interview ten or more students before they decided the offer and WL, others would decided a WL list first, then interview for deciding offer).

But the reality is, once interview is made, GMAT means nothing at all, other things in profile could still play a role in ranking.

For example, after interview, PhD advisor could ranking someone higher because his/her school has better name or some other things, but never because of GMAT.

There are more and more high GMAT Asian guys doomed in interview, and lose their chance to those applicants with lower GMAT.

A higher than your current GMAT score is surely nice for you, but it won't worth for much extra efforts.

作者: rheabubi 时间: 2006-10-22 23:52

stokowski, thanks a lot for your reply. Of course I have no ability to send my paper to A+ journals. Haha. The important thing you mean is interview?

作者: stokowski 时间: 2006-10-23 00:20
Well, what I want to say is, you will not rely on GMAT to distinguish yourself, and the marginal effect on higher GMAT decline sharply for those 50-100 schools.

Even if you paper is crappy, that is still something can distinguish yourself from other applicants.

What I trying to said is in general speaking is a key thing for Asian students.

There are a lot of Asian PhD students in business, and some of them suffer from acent problem when they are on Job market.

That's why now schools prefer European or Indian to Asian, there are still lots of Chinese or Korean get addmission simply because there are tons of applicants from these two countries.

So I think it's more important to convince school your speaking is good enough than to get a high GMAT which every Asian applicant has it.

More school now require TSE or speaking test, so higher score there or at speaking part of iBT is worthy to fight on.

It's way more worthy to become an average applicant than to become an average "Asian" applicant.

作者: drmayniack 时间: 2006-10-23 01:41

以下是引用stokowski在2006-10-23 0:20:00的发言：

That's why now schools prefer European or Indian to Asian, there are still lots of Chinese or Korean get addmission simply because there are tons of applicants from these two countries.

India is not part of Asia?

作者: dandy 时间: 2006-10-23 02:42

In one sense, Indians could be counted as non-asian. They have English Education all the way from elementary school so they speak English more fluently. However, most of them have THICKER accent, or accent at least as strong as students from East Asia.

作者: drmayniack 时间: 2006-10-23 13:23

以下是引用dandy在2006-10-23 2:42:00的发言：

if that's the case, Singapore could be another one.

作者: drmayniack 时间: 2006-10-23 13:27

rheabubi, your background is solid...the last thing you should worry about is your g score. try to contact the professors while you package your application.

作者: rheabubi 时间: 2006-10-23 17:32

stokowski,thank you so much! I don't worried about my speaking, since I am a teaching assistant and have to prepare tutorial classes for the undergraduate student. But I have to say I do have some acent...One fact may help me is toefl test. I think my speaking is much better than reading and listening. I hope I can get 26+ in toefl test. But rather worry about the listening and reading parts.

One fact you never know is so called "portfolio" in the universities. They sometimes will not consider Asian applicants simply because their PhD proportion have enough students from Asian, including Indian. This is a strong reason for them kicking you out.

作者: rheabubi 时间: 2006-10-23 17:36
drmayniack, thanks for you courage. I may not send mails to the professors since my supervisor said "Tao Ci" will leave a bad image. I am not an aggressive person.

作者: judydongxueni 时间: 2007-1-14 18:12
呵呵既然都申请行为就互通有无吧.感觉jj背景很好啊,希望没有撞车.

作者: whatapain 时间: 2007-1-15 02:00
GMAT 680 能给你带来一些telephone interview的机会,但是还是要看你的交流能力了, 你可以申请30-50的学校

作者: rheabubi 时间: 2007-1-15 09:20
好像很多学校说没有telephone interview 的。。。

作者: whatapain 时间: 2007-1-15 09:51

要你的一般都有interview的

没有interview只有两种情况,要么你太牛,要么老板太shy, 不喜欢交流

作者: rheabubi 时间: 2007-1-15 09:54
哈，太谢谢你啦！I prefer interview, much more than TSE

作者: whatapain 时间: 2007-1-16 00:45

以下是引用rheabubi在2007-1-15 9:54:00的发言：
哈，太谢谢你啦！I prefer interview, much more than TSE

看来你是蛮喜欢叽叽喳喳的咯, 呵呵

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