Mel: The official salary for judges has always been too low to attract the best
Candidates to the job. The legislature’s move to raise the salary has
done nothing to improve the situation, because it was coupled with
a ban on receiving money for lectures and teaching engagements.
Pat: No, the raise in salary really does improve the situation. Since very few
judges teach or give lectures, the ban will have little or no negative
effect.
Pat’s response to Mel is inadequate in that it
A. attempts to assess how a certain change will affect potential members
of a group by providing evidence about its effect on the current members.
B. mistakenly takes the cause of a certain change to be an effect of that change
C. attempts to argue that a certain change will have a positive effect merely
by pointing to the absence of negative effects
D. simply denies Mel’s claim without putting forward any evidence in support
of that denial
E. assumes that changes that benefit the most able members of a group
necessarily benefit all members of that group.
the answer offered is A but I choose C. Why??? Thanks...
正是因为BAN，很多best Candidates 才不去做JUDGES的
而不能说是因JUDGES教书的不多，BAN 也就无所谓
正是因为BAN，很多best Candidates 才不去做JUDGES的
而不能说是因JUDGES教书的不多，BAN 也就无所谓
yeah, you are right. thx
Then what's wrong with C? Isn't Chioce C just the same logical structure as Pat's response???
I think we have to take into consideration the argument Mel gave: raising the pay for the judge will have positive effect if there is no ban. so disproving the ban's negative effect does show that the tactic will have a positive effect.
so there is nothing wrong with the logic of choice C.
I think we have to take into consideration the argument Mel gave: raising the pay for the judge will have positive effect if there is no ban. so disproving the ban's negative effect does show that the tactic will have a positive effect.
so there is nothing wrong with the logic of choice C.
谁能帮忙解释一下，这道题，真的不知道c错在哪里？
这么解释吗?
C表达的意思是通过指出没有负面影响来支持一个有正面影响的观点.显然不是原文的逻辑矛盾所在,所以错误.
这道逻辑题的冲突点是把一个导致的现象,也就是结果描述成为原因.
mel:因为禁令不能教书和上课而导致收入少
pat:老师很少上课和教书啊.(废话)
是选择更好的，
C只是概括的题目中表达的特殊场景，而A是对场景本质的一般性概括。
A显然比C更适合选
I think we have to take into consideration the argument Mel gave: raising the pay for the judge will have positive effect if there is no ban. so disproving the ban's negative effect does show that the tactic will have a positive effect.
so there is nothing wrong with the logic of choice C.
I think we have to take into consideration the argument Mel gave: raising the pay for the judge will have positive effect if there is no ban. so disproving the ban's negative effect does show that the tactic will have a positive effect.
so there is nothing wrong with the logic of choice C.
I think we have to take into consideration the argument Mel gave: raising the pay for the judge will have positive effect if there is no ban. so disproving the ban's negative effect does show that the tactic will have a positive effect.
so there is nothing wrong with the logic of choice C.
支持A,这题是围绕加工资的有效性来说的，不是BAN的有效性～
M加工资没作用，因为BAN禁止讲座。
F加工资有作用，因为现在很少J去讲座，BAN将来没有消极作用。
C讲一个变化的积极作用通过说它没有消极作用。
这里的变化是指的要不要加工资，而不是要不要取消BAN。
A. attempts to assess how a certain change will affect potential members
of a group by providing evidence about its effect on the current members.
看了又看，感觉A中的potential members有问题，不知指什么？
大家选A的理由是：把BAN已造成的影响误作BAN之前的状况。可是A说的是把对current members的影响当作对potential members的影响
支持C
应该是C.
Mel的论述中,结论明显是 The legislature’s move to raise the salary has done nothing to improve the situation Pat的response:No, the raise in salary really does improve the situation.也正是P的conclusion.后面是premise. 所以c项attempts to argue that a certain change will have a positive effect,正是它论点所在,而merely by pointing to the absence of negative effects是指出由premise到conlusion的推理错误. A项重心明显是关于premise的,而response 应该是对应于conclusion的.
The legislature’s move to raise the salary has
done nothing to improve the situation
Pat的response:No, the raise in salary really does improve the situation.也正是P的conclusion.后面是premise.
所以c项attempts to argue that a certain change will have a positive effect,正是它论点所在,而merely by pointing to the absence of negative effects是指出由premise到conlusion的推理错误.
A项重心明显是关于premise的,而response 应该是对应于conclusion的.
本来我也选的C，现在想通了选A。
C说通过说明没有负面影响而证明该变化有正面影响à文章没有说
没有负面影响
这一点。
A中的Potential member 指的是现在不是judge，但有可能因为工资待遇调高而成为judge的人。（这些人很有可能在大学教书）
Pat只是说明了现在的judge里很少人教书，但这并不意味着potential member不会想要教书。搞不好人家教习惯了会很想keep it as a part time job.
Open to discussion.
"the ban will have little or no negative effect." = by pointing to the absence of negative effects
In pat's argument , " Since very few judges teach or give lectures, the ban will have little or no negative effect. " is the cause
"No, the raise in salary really does improve the situation." is the result.
that is not correct.
本来我也选的C，现在想通了选A。
C说通过说明没有负面影响而证明该变化有正面影响à文章没有说
没有负面影响
这一点。
A中的Potential member 指的是现在不是judge，但有可能因为工资待遇调高而成为judge的人。（这些人很有可能在大学教书）
Pat只是说明了现在的judge里很少人教书，但这并不意味着potential member不会想要教书。搞不好人家教习惯了会很想keep it as a part time job.
Open to discussion.
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