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作者: hlyndon 时间: 2003-10-9 22:44
标题: 885题Section 3的几个问题
16.In the traditional Japanese household, most clothing could be packed flatly, and so it was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities.
(A) flatly, and so it was not necessary to have elaborate closet facilities
(B) flat, and so elaborate closet facilities were unnecessary
(C) flatly, and so there was no necessity for elaborate closet facilities
(D) flat, there being no necessity for elaborate closet facilities
(E) flatly, as no elaborate closet facilities were necessary
答案是B，为什么是be packed flat而不是be packed flatly呢？

17.The unskilled workers at the Allenby plant realized that their hourly rate of $4.11 to $4.75 was better than many nearby factory wages.
(A) many nearby factory wages
(B) many wages in nearby factories
(C) what are offered by many nearby factories
(D) it is in many nearby factories
(E) that offered by many nearby factories
答案是E，但我觉得many nearby factories它们offer的是复数，而不应该是that能指代的

25.To speak habitually of the “truly needy” is gradually instilling the notion that many of those who are just called “needy” actually have adequate resources; such a conclusion is unwarranted.
(A) To speak habitually of the “truly needy” is gradually instilling the notion
(B) To speak habitually of the “truly needy” is instilling the notion gradually
(C) To speak habitually of the “truly needy” is gradually to instill the notion
(D) Speaking habitually of the “truly needy” is to instill the gradual notion
(E) Speaking habitually of the “truly needy” is instilling the gradual notion
答案是C，但是感觉gradually to instill the notion语序怪怪的，不如to gradually instill the notion

作者: gemj 时间: 2003-10-9 22:51
16
再看一个非常著名的例句：
All men are created equal. (非equally)
这个问题LZM的书解释得非常透彻！

作者: chenmoon 时间: 2003-10-9 23:13
在哪里解释的？

作者: kid 时间: 2004-2-8 00:16
16.flat 和 flatly有什么区别？？
这里是不是因为flat修饰clothing?

作者: 橙子 时间: 2004-2-8 03:30
flat和flatly意思上有绝对差别
flatly是1乏味的2断然地意思
flat才有扁的,平的意思

作者: JerryGuan 时间: 2004-3-31 00:01
17.The    unskilled    workers    at    the    Allenby    plant    realized    that    their    hourly    rate    of    $4.11    to    $4.75    was    better    than    many    nearby    factory    wages.
(A)    many    nearby    factory    wages
(B)    many    wages    in    nearby    factories
(C)    what    are    offered    by    many    nearby    factories
(D)    it    is    in    many    nearby    factories
(E)    that    offered    by    many    nearby    factories
答案是E，但我觉得many    nearby    factories它们offer的是复数，而不应该是that能指代的；另外C答案为什么会错，名词和what从句不可以比较对吗？

作者: dashasha 时间: 2004-5-2 10:31
Jerryguan,这个问题你明白了吗？我不明白为什么B和C是错误的。请指正。

作者: dashasha 时间: 2004-5-2 13:36
我明白为什么B和C是错误的了.B的WAGE不能和RATE比,C时态不对. 不知道我的想法对不对,请指正.

作者: dashasha 时间: 2004-5-2 13:45
我又不明白了，到底B怎么错了？请牛牛们给讲讲啊。

作者: JerryGuan 时间: 2004-5-2 14:37

不明白，同问！

作者: tianwan 时间: 2004-5-2 14:58
that替代rate。many应该修饰factories

作者: dashasha 时间: 2004-5-2 15:31
tianwan,还是不明白，不好意思。我觉得many修饰wages也蛮好的啊。wage是可数名词啊。B到底错在哪里呢？

作者: xx2004 时间: 2004-6-25 04:46

我想确实是由于hourly rate 不能和wage 相比。如果你问一个美国人的wage,他很有可能告诉你$xxx a year.如果你问payment rate, 一定是$ x per hour.

OG Mentioned this kind of comparasion several times.

作者: eSpirit 时间: 2004-11-6 12:31

第25题未讨论啊！！！

作者: joe11 时间: 2004-11-6 15:07

以下是引用JerryGuan在2004-3-31 0:01:00的发言：
17.The unskilled workers at the Allenby plant realized that their hourly rate of $4.11 to $4.75 was better than many nearby factory wages.
(A) many nearby factory wages
(B) many wages in nearby factories
(C) what are offered by many nearby factories
(D) it is in many nearby factories
(E) that offered by many nearby factories
答案是E，但我觉得many nearby factories它们offer的是复数，而不应该是that能指代的；另外C答案为什么会错，名词和what从句不可以比较对吗？

wage 不能和　rate 相比较,

wage 是绝对概念，是多少就是多少，不依赖其他参数来决定其大小

rate 是相对概念， per .sth. 其大小还要决定于 per.sth.

So, B is wrong

C. what was offered 才对，what 主语，谓语单数；而且比较对象错

D. than it was in many nearby factories, 时态错

作者: yuying6239 时间: 2005-3-31 15:40

前者比较的是rate，而后者是wage，所以两者不能比较！而用that可以指代前面句子中的rate

不知道这样解释对不对！我是这样理解的！

作者: leader 时间: 2005-6-9 09:45
17 比较结构中比较的概念形式上和概念上都必须对等。本题中比较的概念，一个是their hourly rate of $4.11 to $4.75，核心词是rate，A和B核心词是wages,不对等，错误；C和D的时态不正确，realized后面接一般现在时态是不正确的；再者C中what后面要接动词单数形式；E是正确选项，其中that指代rate。

作者: pierre_chin 时间: 2005-8-30 03:57
3-16.B的"and so"各为什么词性？ “连词+副词”？

作者: jealv 时间: 2006-6-25 21:59

以下是引用gemj在2003-10-9 22:51:00的发言：
16
再看一个非常著名的例句：
All men are created equal. (非equally)
这个问题LZM的书解释得非常透彻！

还是不懂

作者: KarenK 时间: 2006-9-15 17:05

25题,那位NN能解答一下啊？

感激...

作者: lucccky328 时间: 2006-9-16 12:18
句中 their hourly rate , rate 也是用的单数，rate－－小时工资，似乎是一个范围，不是具体的工资数，和wage不同。

作者: YAWYR 时间: 2006-11-4 14:03

以下是引用KarenK在2006-9-15 17:05:00的发言：

25题,那位NN能解答一下啊？

感激...

作者: ayiyiye 时间: 2006-11-13 07:05

顶一下,同问25题...

25.To speak habitually of the “truly needy” is gradually instilling the notion that many of those who are just called “needy” actually have adequate resources; such a conclusion is unwarranted.
(A) To speak habitually of the “truly needy” is gradually instilling the notion
(B) To speak habitually of the “truly needy” is instilling the notion gradually
(C) To speak habitually of the “truly needy” is gradually to instill the notion
(D) Speaking habitually of the “truly needy” is to instill the gradual notion
(E) Speaking habitually of the “truly needy” is instilling the gradual notion

能不能请哪位牛牛解释下别的选项的错误啊,另,可以不可以用speaking habitually 代替正确选项的TO SPEAK啊?

作者: 卡卡元 时间: 2007-1-8 07:03

第25题？

(A) To speak habitually of the “truly needy” is gradually instilling the notion

(B) To speak habitually of the “truly needy” is instilling the notion gradually

(D) Speaking habitually of the “truly needy” is to instill the gradual notion（C）

(E) Speaking habitually of the “truly needy” is instilling the gradual notion

为什么不能用d?

作者: QuailAries 时间: 2007-1-30 20:41

我觉得D选项gradual修饰的是notion，而原句中gradually表示instilling这个动作（或者说进程）是“逐步地”。所以D选项改变了原句意思而且逻辑上也不通。

P.S. C选项中的To speak…is to instill，是平行结构的需要吗？

[此贴子已经被作者于2007-1-30 20:42:28编辑过]

作者: gonghao 时间: 2007-3-27 17:17
17的that为什么不用those？之后的施动者是factories，应该是复数才对？

作者: elaineyin819 时间: 2007-8-29 00:05

我来回答BZ的问题

That refers to hourly rate -- their hourly rate of...was better than hourly rate offered by many nearby factories

另外单数Rate和复数rates感觉应该不能合理比较

另外这里应该是把其他工厂的hourly rate作为一个整体和A工厂工人的hourly rate比较

作者: spyder1011 时间: 2007-10-31 18:19

我的拙见：

wage也分daily/weekly wage等，这里是一个基本合理的替换。AB主要错在many是修饰wages的，原意不是说和许多wage比较，而是Allenby plant和许多其他工厂开出的wage比较。如果说wage不能用也有一定道理，感觉rate似乎更偏向于工资率的概念，wage可能通常指个人吧。

无论是wage还是rate，后面必须用单数。可以试想，如果要用复数，那么前面的rate是不是也该用复数呢，是所有worker的rate，而且还从4.11到4.75不等，但是未划线部分帮我们完成了这个困难的选择，就随它吧。

作者: dj830218 时间: 2008-8-5 17:36

25题为什么一直没有人来讨论呢？？？？

非常想知道这题为什么选C

作者: lijiahui0422 时间: 2008-11-17 15:49

求助25题虽然很平行但是为什么要用不定式有什么说道么？

作者: xxxyyyzzz1 时间: 2009-4-13 17:39
25是不是
to do sth is to do sth?

作者: xxxyyyzzz1 时间: 2009-4-14 10:14
顶下，请教25题的结构？

作者: isi 时间: 2009-6-26 19:31

25题没辙。。

觉得这个常见的连词重复时gmat的考点之一，所以做题的时候无奈之下选了D（尽管D用了gmat比较鄙视的there be结构，但用作伴随状语修饰前面的主谓结构也符合语法吧）

B中，so的三种词性（代词，连词，副词）在这里只有副词说得过去，修饰elaborate..但这样改变原意。。

不过这么恶心的题该不会经常遇到吧。。呵呵。

作者: hlp1222 时间: 2009-8-8 17:05

以下是引用ayiyiye在2006/11/13 7:05:00的发言：

顶一下,同问25题...

能不能请哪位牛牛解释下别的选项的错误啊,另,可以不可以用speaking habitually 代替正确选项的TO SPEAK啊?

首先应该要考虑平行的问题，要不用to do is to do的形式，要不就用doing is doing的形式

好像BY和og里面都有类似的结构的题，但忘了具体题号

如此比较，则只剩下CE可供选择

再看CE的区别就在于is gradually to instill the notion 和instilling the gradual notion

E中有2点不好

1、改变了句意，原句的gradually作副词修饰instill，而E中gradual做形容词修饰notion

2、C中to speak habitually和 gradually to instill平行，都有副词修饰动词

一点浅见，多多指教

作者: hilucie 时间: 2010-4-7 19:57
同意楼上的两年前的意见！

不过一直弄不清楚副词的位置，貌似是位于动词前后都可以的，所以副词位于动词前可以与副词位于动词后平行吗？还是说这里也是传说中的“意合”大于“形合”？

作者: promiselu 时间: 2010-9-7 17:01
16题有没有人再解释下？
All men are created equal. (非equally)
这里flatly不是应该修饰packed的吗用副词啊？？？

作者: promiselu 时间: 2010-9-7 17:07
17题，不是说前文中提到的东西要用it来指代吗？ that和this只能指代离说话者较远和较近的东西。。。

作者: DDZTDD 时间: 2012-9-18 12:15
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