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作者: 江南天阔    时间: 2003-10-8 23:20
标题: OG181 请教
Because of the enormous research and
development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.
(A)    to survive
(B)    of firms to survive
(C)    for surviving
(D)    for survival
(E)    for firms' survival
The subject of the main clause (such firms) presumes a prior reference to the firms in question. Furthermore, the logical subject of to survive and the logical complement of required should be made explicit. All three demands are met by B, the best choice. Choices A, C, and D, with no reference to the firms in question, meet none of these demands. In choice E, the illogical and awkward use of a prepositional phrase (for firms' survival) buries the needed initial reference to firms in a possessive modifier.

B和E还是分不清,除了E用FOR以外还有什么错误?
作者: nina23    时间: 2003-10-8 23:36
require (of) sb to do sth.

require that+ clause
作者: 江南天阔    时间: 2003-10-9 00:25
以下是引用nina23在2003-10-8 23:36:00的发言:
require (of) sb to do sth.

require that+ clause
谢谢MM。
作者: Mchao_l    时间: 2003-10-24 05:16
有点问题呀, OG 109 说, 是of造成了错误, 大家再解释一下好吗?

109. Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A)    that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
(B)    that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
(C)    to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
(D)    to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills
(E)    to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills


Choice A is best. In choice B, should is illogical after requires, or at least unnecessary, and so is better omitted; in choices B and E, job does not agree in number with jobs; and in choices B, D, and E, the wording illogically describes the comparable skills rather than the jobs as being "usually held by men." Choices C, D, and E produce the ungrammatical construction requires of... employers to pay, in which of makes the phrase incorrect. In C, the use of in rather than for is unidiomatic, and jobs of comparable skill confusedly suggests that the jobs rather than the workers possess the skills. In D, the phrase beginning regardless ... is awkward and wordy in addition to being illogical.


希望大家再讨论一下这个require的使用问题. 谢过..


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作者: joywzy    时间: 2003-10-24 18:01
OG109,C/D/E的require of 这个用法,应该是对的,不明白啊.哪位能讲讲?谢谢.
作者: yongchou    时间: 2003-12-10 12:41
for active mood,
require sb/sth to V
require sb/sth that
------
for passive,
sth be required of sb/sth to V
作者: Snazzy    时间: 2003-12-10 13:32
but there is a sentence in teh dictionary: Do u need anything of me?  How would u explain it, Yongchou, please?
作者: gmatchenaimin    时间: 2003-12-18 12:26
LZM害死人!
1) 就没有required of sb to do sth 这个习惯用法.
require sb to do sth, yes!
2) A is required of sb. to do sth, correct!
但它的主动语态的表示是,
it require of sb A to do sth. 用了习惯用法: require of sb. sth.
"to do sth" 是逻辑主语.

作者: atasl    时间: 2003-12-18 12:39
严重同意楼上,这句话本是:It requires of firms enormous research and development expenditures to survive in the electronics industry.
作者: LES    时间: 2004-4-5 15:29

看了前面的讨论,似懂非懂,还是一片糊涂!!!


请NN先解释一下OG的这句解释“Furthermore, the logical subject of to survive and the logical complement of required should be made explicit.”


再请NN解释一下require 在这里的用法,其逻辑主语,逻辑宾语各是什么?
字典上有“习惯用语require sth. of sb. 对某人有...的要求”是这里的用法吗?


第三问,这里可不可以改成required by firms to survive?意思上有什么区别?


不甚感激!


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作者: weiyu    时间: 2004-4-5 16:59
以下是引用Mchao_l在2003-10-24 5:16:00的发言:
有点问题呀, OG 109 说, 是of造成了错误, 大家再解释一下好吗?

109. Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A)    that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
(B)    that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
(C)    to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
(D)    to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills
(E)    to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills


Choice A is best. In choice B, should is illogical after requires, or at least unnecessary, and so is better omitted; in choices B and E, job does not agree in number with jobs; and in choices B, D, and E, the wording illogically describes the comparable skills rather than the jobs as being "usually held by men." Choices C, D, and E produce the ungrammatical construction requires of... employers to pay, in which of makes the phrase incorrect. In C, the use of in rather than for is unidiomatic, and jobs of comparable skill confusedly suggests that the jobs rather than the workers possess the skills. In D, the phrase beginning regardless ... is awkward and wordy in addition to being illogical.


希望大家再讨论一下这个require的使用问题. 谢过..



觉得E的错误不应当象ETS所说.和A比,是jobs和a job的平行问题


作者: LES    时间: 2004-4-5 17:30
以下是引用LES在2004-4-5 15:29:00的发言:

看了前面的讨论,似懂非懂,还是一片糊涂!!!


请NN先解释一下OG的这句解释“Furthermore, the logical subject of to survive and the logical complement of required should be made explicit.”


再请NN解释一下require 在这里的用法,其逻辑主语,逻辑宾语各是什么?
字典上有“习惯用语require sth. of sb. 对某人有...的要求”是这里的用法吗?


第三问,这里可不可以改成required by firms to survive?意思上有什么区别?


不甚感激!

P.S. 问OG181。



作者: LES    时间: 2004-4-6 15:04

UP


作者: jnlvo    时间: 2004-4-6 17:21

请NN先解释一下OG的这句解释“Furthermore, the logical subject of to survive and the logical complement of required should be made explicit.”

to survive的逻辑主语和required的逻辑补语应该清楚地给出。

再请NN解释一下require 在这里的用法,其逻辑主语,逻辑宾语各是什么?
字典上有“习惯用语require sth. of sb. 对某人有...的要求”是这里的用法吗?

可以这样理解: require sth. of sb. to do 不过这里to do的逻辑主语应该是sb而不是sth.

第三问,这里可不可以改成required by firms to survive?意思上有什么区别?

不能这样改,否则就成了 firms require sth. to survive 这里to survive的逻辑主语成了sth. 改变了句意。

个人观点,仅供参考。


作者: LES    时间: 2004-4-6 17:36
谢谢jnlvo,我明白了。
作者: 运河    时间: 2004-8-23 01:09

OG109

yongzhou的解释:

for active mood,
require sb/sth to V
require sb/sth that
------
for passive,
sth be required of sb/sth to V

感谢yongzhou, 对yongzhou解释,我理解为:

Because of the enormous research and development expenditures which are required of firms to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.

请NN指教。


作者: hncsxj    时间: 2005-7-8 22:05
以下是引用atasl在2003-12-18 12:39:00的发言:
严重同意楼上,这句话本是:It requires of firms enormous research and development expenditures to survive in the electronics industry.


我認爲應該是


It requires enomous research and development expenditures of firms to survive in the electronics industry.


是(it) requires sth of sb( to do), 請大家討論


作者: liyibai002    时间: 2007-12-27 06:32

My summary on the use of "require..."

1.require of sb that + 动词原形的从句
(OG10_109)
Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employees that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

2.require sb to do sth
(OG10_16)
Unlike a typical automobile loan, which requires a fifteen to twenty percent down payment, a lease-loan does not require the buyer to make an initial deposite on the new vehicel.

3.require that 主语+(动词原形)

4.sth is required of sb to do sth
(OG10_181)
Because of the enormous research and development expenditure required of firms to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large. 

5.required做形容词,表示“被要求的”。
(OG10_37)
While some academicians believe that business ethics should be integrated into every business course, other say that students will take ethics seriously only if it taught as a seperate, required course.

6.sb is required to do sth
(OG10_41)
Under a provision of the Constitution that has never been applied, congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do soby the legislatures of two-thirds of the states.


作者: racing78    时间: 2007-12-27 09:23

個人意見:

require of sb that...

of sb在這理是加上一個介係詞變成介係詞片語,說明是誰被require,因為

去掉of會變成 S+require +sb +that,很容易誤會成sb that....同時缺少受詞的動作容易讓句子不完整

所以這句話應可視為require (of sb) that.......


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