I am going to Darden B-school next week and would like to take questions about Darden and MBA application together with other classmates and alumnies.
Many people may ask what great about Darden, I would say: high teaching quality, a realy community, very good career opportunity.
Teaching: Darden ranks among the highest of it's teaching quality in most major rankings. Similar with other top B-schools, It has top notch professors, but what differs Darden is that these professors are always there for you. Their doors are open, they remember your name and even what is your wife doing. They are engaged in your development. The case study mode might frighten some Chinese students, because natually we are more quiet comparing with western people. But in my point of view it's a good OPPORTUNITY for us to change. You spend 100K US$ not to do vacation, you spend that big money to change yourself, and Darden is the place to change you to a real leader. Case study is very like the real business environment, where you review problems, discuss with your colleagues, and make decisions. Learning through practicing, I believe, is the best way to learn business.
Community: that's something I always feel during my application and after that. Staffs and especially alumnis are very kind and helpful. You will feel like you already have many friends even before you go to the school. That's also something important. Spending 2 years, getting to know some life long friends, isn't that interesting?
Career opportunity: Darden is known as a school to educate future CEOs, and has very good reputation in industry. Though not everyone of your colleagues know Darden, but if you talk to executives, they will know, and they will tell you it's a very prestige school. UVA is also ranked among the highest in US, and is known as one of the best public schools in US. You can always find the career statistics in school web, but I believe you would be more interested in Chinese students' job. As far as I know, in 2006 there are 8 studens from China mainland, and 5 of them find jobs in US. I will come back China so I cares more about the rest 3 who comes back China, and they all find GREAT jobs, say consultanting, marketing, with salary comparable to US salary.
Theses are just my point of veiw, open to any questions and discussions. My classmates will also be glad to answer.
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Great job,
I am in Darden this year as well, willing to take any question you may have about Darden. I have spent past six years in the
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Hi Steven - thanks for echo my request. Will see you next week
Some tips to everyone for applications:
1 - School selection: try to get into a school ranks as high as you can, BUT, do not be fooled by those rankings since a No.8 school will not be much greater than a No.10 school, though definately you should more consider a school ranked No.2 than No.10. If the ranking are in the same level, you should consider more about all the other factors, like location, career, concentration, etc.
2 - Attend a workshop, working in a team is much better than working alone, at least this works for me since I am not a person with strong displine to do all the tough job alone
3 - soul searching yourself, know who you are, what do you want, what is great about you, why do you want a MBA - to spend 100K$ just to add a "MBA" title to yourself is maybe the worst thing you can do.
4 - work hard, and try to be familiar with US way of thinking, and the "game rule" as much as possible. You can get a better school than where you should be by working harder, and knowing more about these than people who don't know.
5 - apply as early as you can. First round would be perfect. In last year I believe some schools recurited too many in first round so they almost stop recuriting in the second in China.
Thanks for sharing! Does Darden provide two-years no guarantied loan to foreign students or only provide this kind of loan in its second year?
Thanks for sharing! Does Darden provide two-years no guarantied loan to foreign students or only provide this kind of loan in its second year?
Darden provides a two-year loan (Gate Loan) to all international students, http://www.gateloan.com/dardenintl0607.
The loan covers tuition and living expenses (up to $56500/year this year), No cosigner is needed, no origination fees, and the process is pretty easy and straightforward. So if you get admitted, no need to worry about money.
Darden provides a two-year loan (Gate Loan) to all international students, http://www.gateloan.com/dardenintl0607.
The loan covers tuition and living expenses (up to $56500/year this year), No cosigner is needed, no origination fees, and the process is pretty easy and straightforward. So if you get admitted, no need to worry about money.
So can this be interpreted that once you are in, you don't have to prove to Visa Officer that you personally have enough money for the tuition because the loan itself, as you said, good enough to cover all the cost??
So can this be interpreted that once you are in, you don't have to prove to Visa Officer that you personally have enough money for the tuition because the loan itself, as you said, good enough to cover all the cost??
To get a visa from VO is a different story, some people just use a two-year full loan and get a visa successfully, while some people failed, It is always better to show some money in your own pocket even you have a full loan, this way you can shut up the lousy visa officer.
Hi Raymond - Thanks! It was nice talking to you that day though we didn't have enough time to talk into more detail. Anyway if you have questions please feel free to ask me: yorkzhong(A) hotmail.com. or just put it into this thread. Good luck for your application!
To get a visa from VO is a different story, some people just use a two-year full loan and get a visa successfully, while some people failed, It is always better to show some money in your own pocket even you have a full loan, this way you can shut up the lousy visa officer.
Exactly, there are always people get the VISA without any personal fund at all but it might be better for you to collect as much as you can on person fund, together with the loan to get a better chance on VISA.
For this year, we have 6 classmates needs to get VISA and I believe all of us used both personal fund and loan, and we all get the VISA. I myself is the last one
Leo, the interview process of Darden is very formal and informal. By formal, I mean everybody admitted had a face-to-face interview before the admission decision was made. However, the interview itself, either with an adcom member, a second year student, or an alum, will be informal, no stress. Just plain talk. Usually, it will start with a question like, tell me something about yourself. From there, you drive the whole conversation. The interviewer will only interrupt you if s/he has a question. Be sure to show your passion and state clearly to the interviewer why Darden. Since Darden is a case school, the interview is partially used to check your communication skill. Just relax and be yourself.
I think the other new Darden people can share their fresh memories. Mine is kine of old
In my case, I did my interview with Ms. Cheryl Jones in her admission office on grounds last year. it was very casual and relaxing conversation with normal questions:
* Tell me about yourself starting from college, why you chose your major and continue doing that?
* Any activities back in college? Any leadership role in college?
* What you have been doing after college? Why came to the U.S. for engineering education?
* Anything you feel great during your professional career? What would your co-workers say about you?
* Why MBA and why now? How do you see yourself in next five years after MBA? Long-term goal?
* Why Darden?
* What do you do for fun? any hobbies?
* Any questions about Darden?
As you can feel, it was just a conversational interview which took about 40 minutes. Be aware that the interviewer prefers not seeing your resume until the interview is done, which is a blind interview. So please be prepared to be a smooth story teller and then you will knock the interview down.
Hey, speedy
This line here is kind of interesting
"By formal, I mean everybody needs to take a face-to-face interview, if admitted."
Don't B-schools usually conduct interviews for prospective candidates BEFORE admitting them? I don't understand why Darden would conduct the interview after it has already accepted you.
Hey, speedy
This line here is kind of interesting
"By formal, I mean everybody needs to take a face-to-face interview, if admitted."
Don't B-schools usually conduct interviews for prospective candidates BEFORE admitting them? I don't understand why Darden would conduct the interview after it has already accepted you.
Hi- my interview experience in Shanghai with an Alumni turned out to be relex. What the interviewer cares more is your ability to survive in the school, say your communication skill, and if you can work under high-pressure etc. Certainly through the interview you need to show how good you are as a person.
Basically, if your oral English is OK and you get the interview call, do not need to be worry, just get prepared and you will make it.
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Uploaded some data about admission&acceptance rate at Darden in the recent years, especially for applicants from Asia, FYI....
Hi,Yorkzhong,
I agreed with your all points about Dardon.Thank you very much for giving so creative and realistic thoughts.I am ready to apply for Darden this year.But i have a question that need you to help to confirm .Will Darden receive people who have three-years college degree?Is it great limit to get admission?I have eleven years working experience.
I went to Sanfrancisco for business trip last month and visited Berkeley in which bachlor degree is necessary for someone to get admission and Stanford that does not think of bechlor degree as necessary factor.
Hope to get your help.
Best Regards
My email:zhangy@cs-air.com
Hi,Yorkzhong,
I agreed with your all points about Dardon.Thank you very much for giving so creative and realistic thoughts.I am ready to apply for Darden this year.But i have a question that need you to help to confirm .Will Darden receive people who have three-years college degree?Is it great limit to get admission?I have eleven years working experience.
Not sure about the answer, suggest you contacting Ms. Cheryl Jones at
Cheryl is the assistant director of Admissions, and she visited China a couple times, very friendly to Chinese students.
Very hard to get a full scholarship unless you have previous entrepreneur experience or great leadership. But for Chinese students (http://www.darden.virginia.edu/financialaid/intMeritSchol.htm), there are zero to one Dean's Scholarship (50% tuition), one China Scholarship ($5000/year), one to two Franklin Family Scholarships ($10000/year) and a new scholarship provided by a Darden Alum (full tuition waiver for one student from Chinese background, http://www.darden.virginia.edu/news/2006/072606ChengScholarship.htm).
请问：GPA不高对申请这些奖学金影响大吗？
请问：GPA不高对申请这些奖学金影响大吗？
I believe top b-schools value all your other merits besides GPA.
请问：GPA不高对申请这些奖学金影响大吗？
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Here is school visit diary by a US student (from Clearadmit) FYI
March 27, 2006--I visited Darden in December when I conducted my interview along with about 75 other candidates. Bottom-line: Darden has a beautiful campus with all-new facilities. The Darden School completed its new facilities in time for its 50th anniversary this year.
I decided to stay for two nights in the local area, so I could get a feel for the town. The Best Western Cavalier Inn is conveniently located in the heart of the University campus, which is where I stayed. However, there are also rooms available on the Darden grounds - a brand-new facility that houses the candidates of the executive program while they are session.
Case Study Method. The school touts its integrated curriculum as an excellent program for developing general managers. Darden publishes many, if not all of the case studies that it teaches. One can draw comparisons to the program at HBS. There is reason behind this as well - the school was created, in large part, to educate southern business leaders who would otherwise attend northern Ivy league programs. (I later received at documentary DVD that discussed the history of the program.)
Darden prides itself on maintaining a significantly smaller class size than HBS. This allows each MBA candidate an opportunity to contribute and engage during class discussions. During the first terms, students remain in the same classroom - teachers rotate. The classrooms are basically the same as HBS, just less students. Wireless internet is available, but is shut down once class begins.
One thing that I realized during my class visit at Darden is that the effectiveness of the Case Method is a function of two primary variables - the professors who guide the sessions, and the quality of the student body. Having witnessed a class session, I can attest to the quality of the professors within the program. The professor that I talked to noted that even well-renowned scholars do not necessarily fit with the case method. The program appears dedicated to recruiting not only MBA candidates who fit with the case method, but also seeks to ensure its professors are on-board as well.
The Dean seems to be committed to building the Darden brand name globally in order to increase the diversity of the student body. All of the students that I met were bright and articulate with the biggest difference being the "personality" of the program.
Personality. It is not easy to quantify in a 3-day trip, but I was able to get a good feel for the personality of the program. Hardworking is one attribute that I sensed. Integrity. I saw a student pick up a twenty dollar bill off the ground and turn it over to the clerk at the front desk. It seems like a small thing, but it really solidified my impression of the student body. The school honor code is internalized by its students. There is also a Down to earth mentality with a southern appeal. The "high touch" aspect of the program is comforting for me, since I have a family to also consider. Everyone I met was been engaging and friendly. See the segment below about "First Coffee."
Charlottesville. For someone with children, I consider the Charlottesville community the best suited for family life while I pursue an MBA. Just down the street from the Best Western is a strip of restaurants that offers a wide variety of eating options. The Rotunda is truly a must see if you go for a campus visit. There is a small-town feel, but there is plenty of culture.
Overall. Darden has great program fundamentals but needs to build its brand - which it is making efforts to do. To get the best students - and thus maximize the potential value of their case method program - they will need to sell their brand more effectively. This will take some time, but they are using fellowships and scholarships to compete for talent. I came away believing that Darden offers a unique educational opportunity which is not necessarily suited for everyone. The same can be said for any program. However, I came away with the belief that I would achieve my career goals if I happened to choose this program. I also came away with the impression that the program is on an upward track. They recently became more of a "private" institution, where they are not reliant on University funds to operate. The school's endowment fund is one of the largest per student. Darden's grounds are truly of the quality of a top 10 institution. Given the wonderful community of Charlottesville, it is no wonder why so many great professors choose to teach there and make it home.
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请教大哥大姐,darden有没有audit firm background,介绍下经验吧,谢谢了
请教大哥大姐,darden有没有audit firm background,介绍下经验吧,谢谢了
请教大哥大姐,darden有没有audit firm background,介绍下经验吧,谢谢了
We do have people with audit experience this year, one girl from China PWCC with 3 years' experience, another one from Taiwan. I am not from Audit so can only provide my suggestion. You might want to apply as early as possible since Audit and MC are the mainstream applicats pool and if you apply earlier, you have much higher chance to get the solt first.
我对darden很感兴趣，有几个问题还希望校友能够答疑：
1，学校的career service如何？在入校和后来都做了那些工作来帮助学生找internship和找工作/
2，darden在中国招的人不多，相应的中国学生之间的networking不如其它有庞大校友网络的学生强，这个劣势如何弥补？今年毕业的中国学生找工作情况如何？07的学生找internship情况具体如何？
3，听说darden倾向于招工作经验丰富一些的学生，我三年工作经验，是否相对薄弱些？另外，貌似来答疑的都是男生，是不是darden对中国女生不感冒呢？
4，case method是darden引以为豪的，但同时对中国学生是一大挑战。想请问各位校友初期是否觉得这种方式很难，需要多久来适应？性格是否很外向？
5，darden的case method是否导致学习非常辛苦，通常要学习到几点呢？我听说duke的学习相对轻松些。不知各位校友的亲身体验如何？
谢谢各位darden的朋友！
我对darden很感兴趣，有几个问题还希望校友能够答疑：
1，学校的career service如何？在入校和后来都做了那些工作来帮助学生找internship和找工作/
Career service is Darden's strength. Before we enter school, we need to do extensive online career testing, which helped us to identify "Who I am", "What I want to do", "What I can do". Also we need to submit a really refined resume before the course start.
Not sure about the service in School yet but I know that Darden's alumnis are very helpful. They are willing to spend time/effort to help you. One example is in my company, where my boss graduated from Darden and is taking a senior position, while we have a 03 Darden graudates. They have constant discussion and mentoring time, and my boss is helping the younger one to find better chance inside our company.
2，darden在中国招的人不多，相应的中国学生之间的networking不如其它有庞大校友网络的学生强，这个劣势如何弥补？今年毕业的中国学生找工作情况如何？07的学生找internship情况具体如何？
When you look at the network you need to look at both the size and the connection. It is true that Darden's network is smaller but it is VERY CONNECTed. They are helping each other even if they didn't know each other before. On the other hand, since more and more Chinese students are willing to come back China even they could find good job in US, the network is expanding fast.
The placement for Chinese students this year is GREAT! 3 coming back China, holding MC, marketing position, I know 2 of them definately taking golabal pay though I am not sure how the 3rd one is paied. 5 stays in US, with MC job, leadership program in big cooperate etc.
3，听说darden倾向于招工作经验丰富一些的学生，我三年工作经验，是否相对薄弱些？另外，貌似来答疑的都是男生，是不是darden对中国女生不感冒呢？
3 girls vs. 4 boys this year, I cannot say that Darden do not like girls. Also we do have a girl who have 3 year experience, though most of us have 4-7 years' experience.
My suggestion is: focus on "If I like this school" than "if I can get into the school", everything is possible.
4，case method是darden引以为豪的，但同时对中国学生是一大挑战。想请问各位校友初期是否觉得这种方式很难，需要多久来适应？性格是否很外向？
It is a challenge for Chinese but in my point of view it is more a OPPORTUNITY. Aren't you tired of the lecture in university, where professors reading text book for you. You can read those books by yourself without paying the huge tuition
Not sure how hard would it be but I never heard any Chinese student droped because of this.
You do need to talk much in the learning team and in the class, but in B-school you are learning to do business, and business is more about influencing/leading than knowledge. I believe case mode can prepare you more to be a success business leader when you walk out of the school.
5，darden的case method是否导致学习非常辛苦，通常要学习到几点呢？我听说duke的学习相对轻松些。不知各位校友的亲身体验如何？
Heard that normal sleeping time is 12:00 AM, so it is hard. But no pain, no gain. The first year is rather challenge but the second year is very relex from what I heard. It's true, Darden is hard. So if you just want to enjoy 2 year's US life, do not apply for Darden. But if you want to learn some down-to-earth business and be ready to be a CEO, come to Darden!
谢谢各位darden的朋友！
Hi york, many thanks for your prompt reply. What do you mean by 12:00 AM? I guess it is a typo, right? Otherwise life might be really hard in Darden
Hi, My name is SAM, a Chinese FY ( First Year ) here in Virginia.
Let me share with you my opinion on the case method here at Darden. ( your question 4 & 5 )
I dont want to waste your time reading this threas with the informaton you can get with GOOGLE and "official" Darden pamphlet..
So , here is the truth.
Darden is not for everybody.
Before you apply for B-School, you need to ask yourself a big question "What do I want out of it?"
If you want to get solid cross-principle general management professional training, move your English communication skills to a whole new level, and have close-knit friends and alumni you can count on, then Darden is the answer.
Note that I said "English" communication skills. if you want to land a job in North America, Darden will be one of your top choices. Today at the international orientation session, our career development director Mr. errerate just emphasised that the No.1 criteria Top recruiter ( Banking and Consulting firms such as Mckeinsy and Goldman Sach) are looking for when they came on campus is : communcation skills.
On the other hand, if you plan to go back China after your 2 years, Darden may not be your best choice, in my opinion - you dont really need the English communication skills, and Let's face it, Darden dont have particularly large alumni network in China, so it might not help your Business in China. After all, We are still a "small" school.
Yes, it is tough. Darden is still the most rigorous MBA program in TOP B schools in US.
Take it as a challenge, a challenge to improve yourself on time management, multiple-tasking and teamwork. Let me explain why it is a challenge for teamwork. Darden deliberately design the program so that the workload has to shared with the team. It is mission impossible to do it on your own. During today's panel dscussion with several SY ( second year ) students, one of the guys said that it took him too long to realize that he is not the smartest guy in the room. If he were given another chance to re-live the first year, he would involve more on the learn team and reply more on the learning team to get things done.
You need to be confident with your english, comfortable with elaborating your thoughts on a given topic in a structural and logical way in front of a group of elites from various part of the world.
So, are you "Darden material" ?
Yesterday we had our Internation orientation and it was fantastic! We had the first career course in the first day!
In Darden the CDC (career development center) take career of students seriously. We have a 4 step process to follow in the whole 2 years, and each student is assigned with a career consultant from Sep, by major functions you want to work in.
Another big infor we get is that this year Darden enjoyed a HUGE increase in yield rate, that's the rate % of pepole taking offer vs. offers being send out. The result is that Darden sent less offer but turned out more student entering, and the school have to deffer and/or encourage deffer of some students to next year.
3，听说darden倾向于招工作经验丰富一些的学生，我三年工作经验，是否相对薄弱些？另外，貌似来答疑的都是男生，是不是darden对中国女生不感冒呢？
In Darden2008, we have 3 Chinese girls from mainland, and another one originally from China. On yesterday's International Students Orientation, we also met a number of female peers with various background,including: Korean,Japanese,African,European,South American and...a lot of Indian.
There should be kind of limit on specific applicant pool, but there's NO gender bias(or preference) on admission process.
As long as you think you are a qualified applicant and you can survive in hard working ambience, just go ahead to communicate with the admission office. All Darden staff are very nice and helpful.
Good luck!
Sam did give very value point but one thing I might not fully agree is about whether Darden is great for you if you wanna come back China. To be honest, I myself plan to come back China after graduation and Steven also have the same plan. I didn't see much shortcoming for Darden students coming back China. As I mentioned in previous post in this thread, there are several things you need to consider if you plan to come back to China:
1 - Job, Job, Job. Landing a job which is interesting and paied well is always the most important thing. As I mentioned, this year there're 3 students coming back and 2 of them find global paid job (9-10K$), and the rest I am not sure but should be very good. As far as I know, many some other top schools graduates cannot gurrante it's graduates to find a >50K$ job in China. Actually, in my previous company, there was one top-10 (not Darden certainly) graduate reported to me and I know he definately earns less than 40K$
2 - Network, please refer to my reply to "香香茶", not only the size, but also the connection of the Alumni counts. I saw graduates from some top schools with very large brand do not help each other too much, and/or they do not communicate to each other too much.
3 - Brand, admitted Darden is not like Yale, HBS, Stanford who can raise direct repect just by saying their name, but as I mentioned, in the MBA world, Darden is respectable. Most time, the senior executive of the firm will know Darden and they know it's a great school!
ah, finally figured out what the problem is, and here it is-my first responding post. Hi guys, here i come.
York, thanks for your note--you guys made Darden even more attractive than it was to me!
Thanks to everyone's great effort!
ah, finally figured out what the problem is, and here it is-my first responding post. Hi guys, here i come.
York, thanks for your note--you guys made Darden even more attractive than it was to me!
Thanks to everyone's great effort!
I have spent my first week in Darden and never doubted my choice.
Discussed with many friends who have graduated from top 20 MBA schools in USA, I realized that the most important thing in MBA are communication skills and career transfer. Darden does a good job in both areas by case study all through the courses and closely customized career instruction. The positive feedbacks from newly graduated Darden 06 students easily add more evidences for my view. Additionally, the friendly environment in Darden will benefit chinese students a lot who are not so familar with American culture and living style as south American and Indian students.
Welcome to join Darden and be part of the big family!
My TOEFL score is 607. I think I'd better improve it. However, as you know, there are so many things to do in the application process that I could hardly spend time on TOEFL.
Do you think 607 severely hurt my competitiveness? I have plans to improve spoken English over 2006-2007 to prepare myself for the study in Top business schools.
My TOEFL score is 607. I think I'd better improve it. However, as you know, there are so many things to do in the application process that I could hardly spend time on TOEFL.
Do you think 607 severely hurt my competitiveness? I have plans to improve spoken English over 2006-2007 to prepare myself for the study in Top business schools.
Focus on your career goal essay (Essay 1), this is probably THE most important part of your application.
Make it logical.
remember: career development director at Darden read your career goal essay before admission officer make the decision.
Wahoowah
Sam
Key Highlights of the class of 2005 employment statistics,FYI:
86% of students received first offer by graduation;
97% of students received first offer by 3 months post-graduation;
44% of students accepted jobs in Finance;
21% of students accepted jobs in Consulting;
36% of students accepted jobs in the Northeast region;
For additional in-depth data about employment statistics for the class of 2005 & 2006, you are invited to visit:
www.darden.virginia.edu/career
http://www.darden.virginia.edu/career/employmentreportindex.htm
各位darden的同学，我想问下，darden在medical行业的就业如何。darden是为了southern elites而设，那么她的毕业生在sounthern就业应该很不错吧。darden的教学除了case study的特色外，哪个专项比较强些，比如marketing, finance, mis, health care management，etc。
谢谢。
各位darden的同学，我想问下，darden在medical行业的就业如何。darden是为了southern elites而设，那么她的毕业生在sounthern就业应该很不错吧。darden的教学除了case study的特色外，哪个专项比较强些，比如marketing, finance, mis, health care management，etc。
谢谢。
Hi Gobeyond - , let me answer the second question first since it's easier Darden is quite strong in general management, that gives Darden advantage to consultanting and industry. Also University of Virginia has a Basten insititute which focus on entrepreneurship, there's amount of resource encouraging students to do business, like business plan competition, fund etc. Also there's a full-schorlarship for entrepreneurship each year in China.
When we talk about medical industry, I am not an expert since my industry is in IT. But this year, 2 out of 3 students who came back China entered medical device company, one in J&J. Their job/salary are pretty good. Below are the major companies recuriting in Darden bothe for summer intern and full time for your reference:
Class of 2005
Class of 2006
Top Hiring Companies
Summer Internships
Consulting
A.T. Kearney
Bain & Company
Booz Allen Hamilton
Deloitte
Everest
McKinsey & Company
ZS Associates
Consumer Products
Johnson & Johnson
Nike
PepsiCo
Procter & Gamble
Wyeth Consumer Healthcare
Energy
ConocoPhillips
Duke Energy
Exxon Mobil
Intrinergy
Financial Services
American Express
Bank of America
Bear Stearns
Citigroup
Credit Suisse First Boston
Deutsche Bank
Goldman Sachs
JPMorgan Chase
Legg Mason
Lehman Brothers
MassMutual Financial Group
Merrill Lynch
Morgan Stanley
Progressive Insurance
SG Cowen & Company
Standard & Poor’s
Updata Partners
Wachovia Securities
Manufacturing
Armstrong
Danaher
DuPont
GE FANUC
Gilbarco Veeder-Root
Tyco
United Technologies
Pharma/Bio/Healthcare
Pfizer
Upstate
Retail/Wholesale
Target
Technology/Communications
Avaya
Dell
IBM
Landmark Communications, Inc.
Microsoft
Sprint Nextel
TRX
Full-Time Employment
Consulting
A.T. Kearney
Bain & Company
Booz Allen Hamilton
The Boston Consulting Group
Deloitte
Everest
First Annapolis
IBM
McKinsey & Company
The Monitor Group
PRTM
ZS Associates
The Zyman Group
Consumer Products
General Mills
Johnson & Johnson
Kraft Foods
Financial Services
Bank of America
Citigroup
Goldman Sachs
Houlihan Lokey Howard & Zukin
JPMorgan Chase
Lehman Brothers
M&T Bank
Merrill Lynch
Morgan Stanley
Standard & Poor’s
UBS
Wachovia Securities
Manufacturing
Cargill
Danaher
DuPont
General Electric
General Motors
The McGraw-Hill Companies
United Technologies
Real Estate
Centex
Trammell Crow Company
Retail
Circuit City
Target
Technology/Communications
Dell
EDS
Intel Corporation
Sprint Nextel
Hi, York, I got your point. Those pictures are very beautiful. Thanks for your quick response to share the information.
To Yorkzhong:
You mentioned that one of darden's chinese students joined J&J. Is it the global leadership program?
I heard that the base salary for this position is $ 90k plus in USA, but the salary when you are in china is 50k. Is this correct?
York and Steven, well done! Thank you guys for sharing insight and experience in Darden.
I'll be back to Charlottesville at the end of next week. Can not wait to meet you all.
BTW: compensation is a little complicate than monthly salary. That's the reason we call it package, including basic salary, bonus, special funds, etc.
To Yorkzhong:
You mentioned that one of darden's chinese students joined J&J. Is it the global leadership program?
I heard that the base salary for this position is $ 90k plus in USA, but the salary when you are in china is 50k. Is this correct?
Hi ChenPau - The salary is ~90K US$, in China. That's what I heard. I am not sure if it's the global leadership program. Maybe other students can answer.
If you are talking about my previous post, what I meant is: not every top-school can have such a good job placement for it's graduates in China. As far as I know, many top-10 graduates holding salary <50k $.
York and Steven, well done! Thank you guys for sharing insight and experience in Darden.
I'll be back to Charlottesville at the end of next week. Can not wait to meet you all.
BTW: compensation is a little complicate than monthly salary. That's the reason we call it package, including basic salary, bonus, special funds, etc.
今年darden录取了多少华人？
谢谢
Hi Shouyang12 - this year we have about 7 people taking Chinese passport studying in Darden, there are also 4 from Taiwan and Hongkong, and 2-3 people taking American passport.
To be honest, it's a bad year for Chinese year with Scharlorship. There's not too much in the enrolled students, I myself is taking a China scharlorsip which worth ~ 10K$. There was one students taking half schorlarship went to Harvard (not MBA). Traditionally, there would be a full tuitoin schorlarship to a students having entrepreneurship experience, so if you are, give it a good try but do not depend on it.
Overall, when you are talking about top 20 school, do NOT count on the scharlorship since it's very rare, but if you can get it, it would be a plus. Though there is school having rich schorlarship like Emory.
As far as I know, many top-10 graduates holding salary <50k $.
Can name a few schools so that i can make more well-rounded decision for which BS to go? thanks
Can name a few schools so that i can make more well-rounded decision for which BS to go? thanks
sorry i cant answer this question, I'd suggest you asking about salary from each school's students and/or alumni.
Can name a few schools so that i can make more well-rounded decision for which BS to go? thanks
zxsteven and yorkzhong. Thanks for ur advice. I like case studies in Darden. As to other schools, I already narrow down to a few.
Hi all - just finished my pre course for accounting. So I'd like to share some of things I got these days about case study. In the class, the professor do NOT instruct the basic concept, that's what you should learn by yourself before the class, and on the class, the professor gave us different cases for discussion/practise, all the numbers/balance sheet/cash flow chart are made by students during and after the class. The professor is just guiding the discussion and give instructions when there's a question.
I LOVE this way of studying since you don't have to spend your valuable time in class to go through the basic, and it really challenge to strech yourself so that you can keep up with the class discussion. And I am very confident about accounting after studying for 3 days and walking out of the class room.
Same feeling here. The whole process of case preparation and classroom discussion through the case is a very effective learning process, from which you can get into real business in depth and always learn something you might ignore before. Frankly speaking, not every one walks in the class room with (a )100% correct answer(s), and we actually react, revise and improve our analysis results through the discussion with professor and other classmates from various backgrounds.
However, be aware of a major "bad” thing about case-study: you will have to spend a lot of time to prepare for those cases so that you can fully enjoy the fun in class room. This is all about improving time-management skills, which is a necessary step to become a future CEO.....
Thanks for sharing.Darden is really attracting.
One question: since my toefl score will be ready in the end of Oct.it might be too hasty for me to catch up with the first round applcation.But if second round,I am afraid the success rate for me might be little.
I'd like to know which round did most of the 06 successful applicants submit their materials? Thank you so much!
Thanks for sharing.Darden is really attracting.
One question: since my toefl score will be ready in the end of Oct.it might be too hasty for me to catch up with the first round applcation.But if second round,I am afraid the success rate for me might be little.
I'd like to know which round did most of the 06 successful applicants submit their materials? Thank you so much!
Hi Superacumen - Be assured, you are going to be fine. Here's what I know:
Total applicants taking China passport - 7
Applied in earlier round - 3 (Sam, Pengming and tao). Applied in 2nd or 3rd round - 3 (Xiaomeng, Shengmin and me/3rd round), not sure about Steven. So basically 2nd or even 3rd round you still have big chance.
Steven - please correct me if I am wrong on above data.
Thank you so much for your reply,Yorkzhong.
I won't be worried about the round.
Wish all of you fine in Darden!
一个朋友告诉我说，你准备入学后贷多少款，就要在I20表上写多少，因为Darden只贷给你I20上写明将来要贷款的数额，我还没来得及到Darden网站上求证，请问各位Darden Alum 是这样的吗？
一个朋友告诉我说，你准备入学后贷多少款，就要在I20表上写多少，因为Darden只贷给你I20上写明将来要贷款的数额，我还没来得及到Darden网站上求证，请问各位Darden Alum 是这样的吗？
同问,我也想知道.
let me put it this way, there're two years, if you want to take loan in each the year, you need mention it on the I-20, but I THINK you might change the number of the second year afterwards. But for the loan in the first year, since you will need to get loan approval before the school issue the I-20, it's set.
But for the second year, you can change the number if you want. But you do need to mention that you will have loan in the I-20, though the number might be smaller than what you really want.
Basically don't worry about loan and Visa. It is true that you get more chance to get passed if you have more fund from yourself, but it is also true that many people passed with little (or 0) personal fund.
Thanks for sharing.Darden is really attracting.
One question: since my toefl score will be ready in the end of Oct.it might be too hasty for me to catch up with the first round applcation.But if second round,I am afraid the success rate for me might be little.
I'd like to know which round did most of the 06 successful applicants submit their materials? Thank you so much!
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