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作者: bejiao    时间: 2003-10-5 20:44
标题: OG-136
136. Although schistosomiasis is not often fatal, (it is so debilitating that it has become an economic) drain on many developing countries.
(A)    it is so debilitating that it has become an economic
(B)    it is of such debilitation, it has become an economical
(C)    so debilitating is it as to become an economic
(D)    such is its debilitation, it becomes an economical
(E)    there is so much debilitation that it has become an economical
这道题正确答案是a,但是我觉得如果C答案的倒装没有问题(我觉得没有问题),好像还是SO..AS TO 比较简洁。而且本题中AS TO 后面的成分的逻辑主语和主句的主语一致。
请教为什么。
作者: sbbi    时间: 2003-10-5 22:02
my understanding:
倒装表强调,一般放句首.
请别的XDJM发表一下意见..
作者: sbbi    时间: 2003-10-6 21:02
gemj兄和别的XDJM的意见呢?
作者: light    时间: 2003-10-6 23:21
发表一下意见..

so as to,和so that的差别, 基本上,so as to动作执行者就是主句中的主词.
schistosomiasis is so debilitating,以至於schistosomiasis自己become an economic drain?
作者: zhouhaichen    时间: 2003-10-6 23:40
以下是引用light在2003-10-6 23:21:00的发言:
发表一下意见..

so as to,和so that的差别, 基本上,so as to动作执行者就是主句中的主词.
schistosomiasis is so debilitating,以至於schistosomiasis自己become an economic drain?

so as to 和so that 的另一重要区别是:so that 中包含了时态,在这种情况下,不能用so as to 代替,在别处也见过这种情况,具体哪里记不清了.反过来,对于so as to ,如果没能表达从局部分正确的动作主体,需要用so that 来代替,表示与主句不同的动作主体进行so that 后面的行为.
作者: bejiao    时间: 2003-10-7 00:17
我觉得有道理!
作者: bejiao    时间: 2003-10-7 00:22
还有可能C选项有歧义, 他得倒装结构可是看成是表达让步的壮语从句,那样这个句子就没有主句了.
作者: sbbi    时间: 2003-10-7 00:54
请问A中的"it"指什么?指schistosomiasis,还是...?

以下是引用light在2003-10-6 23:21:00的发言:
发表一下意见..

so as to,和so that的差别, 基本上,so as to动作执行者就是主句中的主词.
schistosomiasis is so debilitating,以至於schistosomiasis自己become an economic drain?

作者: sbbi    时间: 2003-10-7 00:55
那就此题怎么应用这个原则呢?

以下是引用zhouhaichen在2003-10-6 23:40:00的发言:
so as to 和so that 的另一重要区别是:so that 中包含了时态,在这种情况下,不能用so as to 代替,在别处也见过这种情况,具体哪里记不清了.反过来,对于so as to ,如果没能表达从局部分正确的动作主体,需要用so that 来代替,表示与主句不同的动作主体进行so that 后面的行为.

作者: remeo    时间: 2003-10-7 17:38
区别就是so as to只用于简单的系表结构中,句子主语和to do 的主语相同,且不能倒装。
而so that就把它要广泛地多,从句和主句中的 主语,时态,结构等均可变换,关键的一点:可以用于而且经常用于倒装结构。
作者: sbbi    时间: 2003-10-7 21:22
so as to不能倒装?倒是没见过...
作者: gemj    时间: 2003-10-8 01:15
我认为:
1,没见过so as to倒装(到底能不能有待检验)。
2,主要问题在于so as to的逻辑主语是谁不清楚。
千万注意:没有语法规则保证它的逻辑主语就是主句主语。所以,虽然从逻辑上说很容易想到它的主语就是主句主语,而且这样理解起来也非常自然,但在语法上是无法保证的,所以可能造成理解上的混乱。
请看我在帖子http://bbs.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=23&replyID=110803&id=16288&star=1&skin=0中的例子。

这一点与下面的这个题目极为相似:
171.    In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled so as to marry Anne Boleyn.
(A) so as to marry
(B) and so could be married to
(C) to be married to
(D) so that he could marry
(E) in order that he would marry
注意ETS在解释A不对时说的话:
Awkward and imprecise, A does not specify who is to marry Anne.











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作者: sbbi    时间: 2003-10-8 01:50
那是不是说由于so .. as to 或 so as to容易指代不请,在SC中基本上就是错误选项呢?有反例么?
作者: gemj    时间: 2003-10-8 01:55
以下是引用sbbi在2003-10-8 1:50:00的发言:
那是不是说由于so .. as to 或 so as to容易指代不请,在SC中基本上就是错误选项呢?有反例么?

我想在选so .. as to 或 so as to时要格外谨慎,除非其它的都有明显的错误。
作者: sbbi    时间: 2003-10-8 02:05
一个光荣伟大正确的结论!
作者: gemj    时间: 2003-10-8 02:50
过奖!
这也是在你的开导下得出的。
作者: sbbi    时间: 2003-10-8 02:52
但老觉得有反例,得回去找找.
作者: gemj    时间: 2003-10-8 02:57
so .. as to 或 so as to作为正确选项的例子我想应该是有的,但应该不影响我们的结论。
作者: sbbi    时间: 2003-10-8 09:20
Good ones:
10.    Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.
(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them
A

14.    Although one link in the chain was demonstrated to be weak, but not sufficiently so to require the recall of the automobile.
(A) demonstrated to be weak, but not sufficiently so to require
(B) demonstrated as weak, but it was not sufficiently so that it required
(C) demonstrably weak, but not sufficiently so to require
(D) demonstrably weak, it was not so weak as to require
(E) demonstrably weak, it was not weak enough that it required
D

22.    The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized sculptured portrait, the features of which are so unrealistic as to constitute what one scholar calls an “artificial face.”
(A) so unrealistic as to constitute
(B) so unrealistic they constituted
(C) so unrealistic that they have constituted
(D) unrealistic enough so that they constitute
(E) unrealistic enough so as to constitute
A

BAD Example:
24.    Several years ago the diet industry introduced a variety of appetite suppressants, but some of these drugs caused stomach disorders severe enough to have them banned by the Food and Drug Administration.
(A) stomach disorders severe enough to have them
(B) stomach disorders that were severe enough so they were
(C) stomach disorders of such severity so as to be
(D) such severe stomach disorders that they were
(E) such severe stomach disorders as to be
D

10.    Students in the metropolitan school district lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming ever more dependent on information-based industries.
(A) lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming
(B) lack math skills to a large enough degree that they will be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy that becomes
(C) lack of math skills is so large as to be difficult to absorb them into a city’s economy that becomes
(D) are lacking so much in math skills as to be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy becoming
(E) are so lacking in math skills that it will be difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming
E

14.    Unlike a hurricane, which can be observed from within, a tornado is so small that such a study has not been practical.
(A) that such a study has not been practical
(B) that studying it that way has not been impractical
(C) for such studies as this to have been impractical
(D) as to not make such a study practical
(E) as to be impractical of study
A

237.    Although schistosomiasis is not often fatal, it is so debilitating that it has become an economic drain on many developing countries.
(A) it is so debilitating that it has become an economic
(B) it is of such debilitation, it has become an economical
(C) so debilitating is it as to become an economic
(D) such is its debilitation, it becomes an economical
(E) there is so much debilitation that it has become an economical
A

总结:
so as to 必错.
so + adj + as to只要不倒装而且主谓一致就可以.
作者: mjiehu    时间: 2003-10-8 11:55
很简单,现根据economic和economical排除BDE,然后二选一。
作者: christinahong    时间: 2003-12-9 14:47
以下是引用sbbi在2003-10-7 0:54:00的发言:
请问A中的"it"指什么?指schistosomiasis,还是...?


A中的两个IT都是指schistosomiasis.
作者: audreylin100    时间: 2003-12-9 15:44
A中的第一個 it 是虛主詞  替代的是that後面所接整個句子
第二个IT才是指schistosomiasis喔.....

另外  分享一下上課時  老師對這題的解法:
so  that / so as to 句意都差不多的 ...A和D都是對的選項

刪除 D的原因是  
原題的句型IT IS........THAT .....已經符合英文慣用的語法[由輕到重,即把句子的重心放到句子尾部]且又是強調的句型,所以不需要使用倒裝句型,而d是倒裝句

一點拙見^^
作者: flora_wang    时间: 2004-2-23 05:14
以下是引用audreylin100在2003-12-9 15:44:00的发言:
A中的第一個    it    是虛主詞        替代的是that後面所接整個句子
第二个IT才是指schistosomiasis喔.....

另外        分享一下上課時        老師對這題的解法:
so        that    /    so    as    to    句意都差不多的    ...A和D都是對的選項

刪除    D的原因是        
原題的句型IT    IS........THAT    .....已經符合英文慣用的語法[由輕到重,即把句子的重心放到句子尾部]且又是強調的句型,所以不需要使用倒裝句型,而d是倒裝句

一點拙見^^


这里的a的两个it都是指代sch....sis(血吸虫病)吧???


请求斑竹指点.前头已经明白了,这个帖子看了又糊涂了??



作者: flora_wang    时间: 2004-2-23 05:22
以下是引用gemj在2003-10-8 1:15:00的发言:
我认为:
1,没见过so    as    to倒装(到底能不能有待检验)。
2,主要问题在于so    as    to的逻辑主语是谁不清楚。
千万注意:没有语法规则保证它的逻辑主语就是主句主语。所以,虽然从逻辑上说很容易想到它的主语就是主句主语,而且这样理解起来也非常自然,但在语法上是无法保证的,所以可能造成理解上的混乱。
请看我在帖子http://bbs.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=23&replyID=110803&id=16288&star=1&skin=0中的例子。

这一点与下面的这个题目极为相似:
171.    In    1527    King    Henry    VIII    sought    to    have    his    marriage    to    Queen    Catherine    annulled    so    as    to    marry    Anne    Boleyn.
(A)    so    as    to    marry
(B)    and    so    could    be    married    to
(C)    to    be    married    to
(D)    so    that    he    could    marry
(E)    in    order    that    he    would    marry
注意ETS在解释A不对时说的话:
Awkward    and    imprecise,    A    does    not    specify    who    is    to    marry    Anne.

里头这个链接的帖子看不到啦,能再指示一下么?
作者: tangyi79    时间: 2004-2-23 09:21
so开头的应该是部分倒装吧,


作者: lotery    时间: 2004-2-23 11:33
audreylin100    come from Taiwan?


right...both A and C are correct.


but the structure     "it is...that (choice A)" is better than        C.



作者: leeon    时间: 2004-9-10 14:07

今天回过头来又看了这道题我觉得关键是后面的Although schistosomiasis is not often fatal, (it is so debilitating that it has become an economic) drain on many developing countries.
C中的是so debilitating is it as to become an economic

关键的错误不在so as to,而在与so as to后面的动词所表达的意思不同。

该句中so as to只能用于简单的系表结构无法表达出后面从句it has become的意思来!

因为OG的解释只有一句:and C uses an awkward and wordy construction in place of a that... clause.

请大家指正!


作者: 流沙    时间: 2004-9-10 22:54
以下是引用leeon在2004-9-10 14:07:00的发言:

今天回过头来又看了这道题我觉得关键是后面的Although schistosomiasis is not often fatal, (it is so debilitating that it has become an economic) drain on many developing countries.
C中的是so debilitating is it as to become an economic


关键的错误不在so as to,而在与so as to后面的动词所表达的意思不同。


该句中so as to只能用于简单的系表结构无法表达出后面从句it has become的意思来!


因为OG的解释只有一句:and C uses an awkward and wordy construction in place of a that... clause.


请大家指正!



A和C中has become和become确实由于时态不同会引起语义的差别。我也是这样判断排除的。但是前面说的so as to倒装不好也有道理。至少这道题怎么读怎么不对劲。


作者: xionghuixh    时间: 2004-10-5 12:26
A答案中that后面的it 是指代什么
作者: wendywheel    时间: 2004-11-26 13:51
发表个人拙见,我在最开始排除C的时候是因为看到它得倒装。我觉得一般倒装都表示强调,而这样就增强了原句子的语气,所以我就立即排除了C。 不知道这样看对不对。 请大牛指教,谢谢!
作者: lemonles    时间: 2004-11-26 14:41
SO AS TO 表目的, SO THAT表结果
作者: luxinwinter    时间: 2004-12-29 14:29
ding
作者: best555tw    时间: 2005-1-15 16:19

我個人覺得  如果句子前後主詞相同 要用so as to                                                                 例如10. Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.
(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them
A                                                                                                                                         如果前後主詞不同就必須用 so that  例如10. Students in the metropolitan school district lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming ever more dependent on information-based industries.
(A) lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming
(B) lack math skills to a large enough degree that they will be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy that becomes
(C) lack of math skills is so large as to be difficult to absorb them into a city’s economy that becomes
(D) are lacking so much in math skills as to be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy becoming
(E) are so lacking in math skills that it will be difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming
E
但在這句當中                                                                                                                       171. In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled so as to marry Anne Boleyn.
(A) so as to marry
(B) and so could be married to
(C) to be married to
(D) so that he could marry
(E) in order that he would marry前面有Queen Catherine 和 King Henry VIII 所以不能用so as to因為語意不夠清楚。                                                                                                             但這一題


136. Although schistosomiasis is not often fatal, it is so debilitating that it has become an economic drain on many developing countries.



(A)  it is so debilitating that it has become an economic



(B)   it is of such debilitation, it has become an economical


(C)  so debilitating is it as to become an economic



(D)  such is its debilitation, it becomes an econom­ical



(E)   there is so much debilitation that it has become an economical



因時態不同一個現在式一個完成式所以不能用so as to仍然要保留so that


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作者: advantage    时间: 2005-6-25 19:53
so as to 从来不用倒装
作者: snowjing    时间: 2005-8-30 10:59

还是有点不明白: 如OG88题


The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized sculptured portrait, the features of which are so unrealistic as to constitute what one scholar calls an “artificial face.”
(A) so unrealistic as to constitute
(B) so unrealistic they constituted
(C) so unrealistic that they have constituted
(D) unrealistic enough so that they constitute
(E) unrealistic enough so as to constitute
A


谁能告诉我一下这里的constitute的主语是什么? 是features吗? 若是的话, 那么OG对B,C的解释"both suggest that the statue's features once constituted an artificial face but no longer do so." 是对的喽? 但怎么感觉上 features是复数, an artificial face 是单数.


迷惑中...


请XDJM们指教.


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作者: nyc_cfa    时间: 2005-9-2 08:43
constitute的主语是features. OG的意思是说B和C的时态用错了吧.
作者: jessiexu84    时间: 2005-9-20 17:09

so as to 有反例的,但是og上只有一道



作者: wingkim    时间: 2005-10-22 23:05

19楼gg的例子我发现一个共同点:GOOD ONES的例子so as to所在的句子在so as to前只出现一个可能的逻辑主语,与Gemj所举的例子出现两个可能的逻辑主语不一样。


关于so as to必定不对,so adj. as to可能对,我个人认为不应该作为公理。还是根据so as (adj.) to、so (adj.) that和such (adj.) that三者之间的区别作为判断依据。


就这一题来说,个人比较倾向于so as to后只能加动词原型,导致无法表达题目原义的时态的错误。


作者: handsong    时间: 2005-11-20 22:25
同意!可以从逻辑主语和时态两个方面来确定应该用so as to还是用so that
作者: seasnow    时间: 2005-12-5 06:58

借这个帖子问问:136题什么意思啊?为什么说血吸虫病变成经济排水呢?不懂



作者: hitlzc    时间: 2006-1-4 09:19
以下是引用seasnow在2005-12-5 6:58:00的发言:

借这个帖子问问:136题什么意思啊?为什么说血吸虫病变成经济排水呢?不懂



drain有消耗的意思


作者: wycg    时间: 2006-1-4 10:01
同意 -hitlzc 的说法.
作者: tdyg    时间: 2006-2-22 03:07
以下是引用advantage在2005-6-25 19:53:00的发言:
so as to 从来不用倒装

有依据吗?是不是因为其本身已经是一种比较简洁且很有强调意味的表达了。


作者: ll_422    时间: 2006-9-20 16:46

so... as to...

1只用于单一动词结构, so前只有一个动词;

2do的逻辑主语等于主句主语

只有这两者都满足的情况下才正确,否则用so...that...


作者: xiangqinzh    时间: 2006-10-19 10:43
sbbi,真会举例
作者: hhjc    时间: 2007-3-22 15:58
多谢
作者: yingchunh    时间: 2008-1-18 05:26
标题: 回复:(sbbi)那是不是说由于so .. as to 或 so as t...

    

An example of so as to:

In
the Renaissance, painters
were
so impressed with Leonardo da Vinci that they ignored

their own training and designate as a masterpiece anything he
painted.

(A)
were so impressed with Leonardo da Vinci that they ignored

(B)
were impressed with Leonardo da Vinci to such an extent that they
were to ignore

(C)
were so impressed with Leonardo da Vinci as to ignore

(D)
were so impressed with Leonardo da Vinci that they had to ignore

(E)
were as impressed with Leonardo da Vinci as to ignore

    


Answer is C 
        

作者: jonathan1987    时间: 2008-7-28 15:06

都是牛人啊~~

但我想知道,economical与economic有什么不同,都可以指经济的??


作者: dcmczj    时间: 2008-8-28 05:43

节约的,经济的


作者: greatbusy    时间: 2009-3-29 06:56
so...as to 在GMAT中不是不可以用于导装的语气?所以C项用了倒装所以不对?往NN指导。

作者: greatbusy    时间: 2009-3-29 07:02
我现在用的是OG11,它对于C的解释是:

The construction so X as to Y is not a correct idiom

就是这一句话,那位NN还有更加详细的解释吗?实在给这个so as to; so...as to弄的模糊了。

作者: opensq    时间: 2009-3-29 19:35

以上结论来自于OG10,OG11明确告诉了so ...as to  不对,而且删除了88题,所以不用讨论那么多了,OG11已经成定局了/


作者: figoliuxi    时间: 2009-5-6 01:01
看一个印度人的解释是,,要么就是so as to~~~~,要么就是so it is as to ~~~~~.所以不选C
作者: 抓抓sandra    时间: 2011-7-9 11:48
看了前人的讨论,终于彻底搞明白了~
总结下大家看看这样理解对不对~

so that所有情况下都可以用,除非有更简洁的表达;

so as to只能用在一下三个前提同时成立的情况下:
1)前面只有一个名词可以理解成主语;
2)后面跟的时态是一般现在时;
3)前后动作的主体一致.
作者: wtylys    时间: 2011-7-27 19:10
貌似是对的,但总感觉怪怪的,例子太少,无法充分验证啊。。
作者: wtylys    时间: 2011-7-27 19:12
14.    Although one link in the chain was demonstrated to be weak, but not sufficiently so to require the recall of the automobile.
(A) demonstrated to be weak, but not sufficiently so to require
(B) demonstrated as weak, but it was not sufficiently so that it required
(C) demonstrably weak, but not sufficiently so to require
(D) demonstrably weak, it was not so weak as to require
(E) demonstrably weak, it was not weak enough that it required
D


貌似这道就不适用53楼你的总结了。。
作者: vilawe    时间: 2011-8-13 11:02
看了前人的讨论,终于彻底搞明白了~
总结下大家看看这样理解对不对~

so that所有情况下都可以用,除非有更简洁的表达;

so as to只能用在一下三个前提同时成立的情况下:
1)前面只有一个名词可以理解成主语;
2)后面跟的时态是一般现在时;
3)前后动作的主体一致.
我觉得还可以补充一个第四点:
4)so as to 不能用被动时态,注意不是so...as to
-- by 会员 抓抓sandra (2011/7/9 11:48:31)


作者: gourmettsu    时间: 2011-9-20 13:30
Good ones:
10.    Climatic shifts are so gradual as to be indistinguishable at first from ordinary fluctuations in the weather.
(A) so gradual as to be indistinguishable
(B) so gradual they can be indistinguishable
(C) so gradual that they are unable to be distinguished
(D) gradual enough not to be distinguishable
(E) gradual enough so that one cannot distinguish them
A

14.    Although one link in the chain was demonstrated to be weak, but not sufficiently so to require the recall of the automobile.
(A) demonstrated to be weak, but not sufficiently so to require
(B) demonstrated as weak, but it was not sufficiently so that it required
(C) demonstrably weak, but not sufficiently so to require
(D) demonstrably weak, it was not so weak as to require
(E) demonstrably weak, it was not weak enough that it required
D

22.    The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized sculptured portrait, the features of which are so unrealistic as to constitute what one scholar calls an “artificial face.”
(A) so unrealistic as to constitute
(B) so unrealistic they constituted
(C) so unrealistic that they have constituted
(D) unrealistic enough so that they constitute
(E) unrealistic enough so as to constitute
A

BAD Example:
24.    Several years ago the diet industry introduced a variety of appetite suppressants, but some of these drugs caused stomach disorders severe enough to have them banned by the Food and Drug Administration.
(A) stomach disorders severe enough to have them
(B) stomach disorders that were severe enough so they were
(C) stomach disorders of such severity so as to be
(D) such severe stomach disorders that they were
(E) such severe stomach disorders as to be
D

10.    Students in the metropolitan school district lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming ever more dependent on information-based industries.
(A) lack math skills to such a large degree as to make it difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming
(B) lack math skills to a large enough degree that they will be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy that becomes
(C) lack of math skills is so large as to be difficult to absorb them into a city’s economy that becomes
(D) are lacking so much in math skills as to be difficult to absorb into a city’s economy becoming
(E) are so lacking in math skills that it will be difficult to absorb them into a city economy becoming
E

14.    Unlike a hurricane, which can be observed from within, a tornado is so small that such a study has not been practical.
(A) that such a study has not been practical
(B) that studying it that way has not been impractical
(C) for such studies as this to have been impractical
(D) as to not make such a study practical
(E) as to be impractical of study
A

237.    Although schistosomiasis is not often fatal, it is so debilitating that it has become an economic drain on many developing countries.
(A) it is so debilitating that it has become an economic
(B) it is of such debilitation, it has become an economical
(C) so debilitating is it as to become an economic
(D) such is its debilitation, it becomes an economical
(E) there is so much debilitation that it has become an economical
A

总结:
so as to 必错.
so + adj + as to只要不倒装而且主谓一致就可以.
-- by 会员 sbbi (2003/10/8 9:20:00)



8年过去,还是这段话最有用啊。
作者: butterflylin99    时间: 2011-11-26 13:14
同上感慨
作者: seeingyou    时间: 2015-12-10 13:33
yingchunh 发表于 2008-1-18 05:26
    An example of so as to:Inthe Renaissance, painters wereso impressed with Leo ...

不理解这里so X as to Y的用法,Y居然是结果而非intention?
作者: 小小明噢耶    时间: 2019-8-18 10:15
So / Such 在开头引导的倒装句
So kind is she that she deserves all my respect.
So loudly did he speak that everyone could hear him.

所以我觉得C如果改为so debilitating is it that it has become an economic 就是对的






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