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作者: felix2816    时间: 2003-10-5 13:03
标题: 看看这个考点,欲取高分者!!
885 section E, the 2 most diffcult questions need XDJM to help:

4.In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.
(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom

I chose B, but right answer is A. so on earth in which circumstance we should use perfect tense " have had"  ,why not "have". and i found it conflit with the rigth answer of SECTION B 14(D).
14.    The Western world’s love affair with chocolate is well-documented: few people have been known to have tasted it for the first time without requesting more.
(A) few people have been known to have tasted it
(B) few having been known to taste it
(C) it has been tasted by few people
(D) few people have been known to taste it
(E) few people having tasted it


So who can explain it legitmately and soundly?
9.It takes a deft balance between savings discipline, investment knowledge, risk taking, luck, and time to raise a million dollars through investments.
(A) It takes a deft balance between
(B) Deft balancing is needed between
(C) Deftly balanced, it takes
(D) It takes a deft balance of
(E) A deft balance is what one needs among

I choose E, the right answer is D, who can explain it? if you can translate this stence, I will furtherly appreciate it.

作者: travellogue    时间: 2003-10-5 16:37
E definitely is not the answer, too "luosu" redundant. Meaning of the sentence, to make profit on your investment, you need to strike a balance among varioius factors such as knowledge, luck, timing etc.

First question actually did not focus on sentence tense. "who" in A is better than "whom", so A is the answer. Also "have had" is compatible with "claimed".

In your second sentence, scenario is different.
作者: remeo    时间: 2003-10-5 16:51
以下是引用felix2816在2003-10-5 13:03:00的发言:
885 section E, the 2 most diffcult questions need XDJM to help:

4.In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.
(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom

I chose B, but right answer is A. so on earth in which circumstance we should use perfect tense " have had"  ,why not "have". and i found it conflit with the rigth answer of SECTION B 14(D).
14. The Western world’s love affair with chocolate is well-documented: few people have been known to have tasted it for the first time without requesting more.
(A) few people have been known to have tasted it
(B) few having been known to taste it
(C) it has been tasted by few people
(D) few people have been known to taste it
(E) few people having tasted it


So who can explain it legitmately and soundly?
  

这个问题问的好!这涉及到了不定式的时态问题,根据LZM书上的讲解,当用do+to do结构时,如果不定式的动作发生在主动作之前,那么此时就应该用不定式的完成时态。也就是说如果你看到了不定式紧跟在一个动词之后,就应该特别小心不定式的时态!
用这种方法确实能解决不少问题,但是LZM毕竟是LZM,他的方法并不能解释所有这一类的do+to do结构关于不定式时态的用法。因为还有很多题目中就没有用不定式的完成时态, 比如说你的第二个问题。现在我们几个斑竹也正在积极思考这个问题,一有结果我们会马上公布出来。


9.It takes a deft balance between savings discipline, investment knowledge, risk taking, luck, and time to raise a million dollars through investments.
(A) It takes a deft balance between
(B) Deft balancing is needed between
(C) Deftly balanced, it takes
(D) It takes a deft balance of
(E) A deft balance is what one needs among
I choose E, the right answer is D, who can explain it? if you can translate this stence, I will furtherly appreciate it.

这道题首先就是考你一个句型:It takes (sb) sth to do sth.很典型,记得中学就学过。
这句话我尝试翻译一下吧:要通过投资来筹集百万美金的话,必须在储蓄定律,投资知识,冒险,运气和时间之间做一个非常巧妙的平衡!也就是说做这事可不是那么简单的,需要考虑到这么多的因素。
请记住这个句型!

作者: felix2816    时间: 2003-10-6 12:01
to remeo: thx for ur considerate explanation. I got it. hope u post ur fruit on "不定式的完成时态" soon.
to travellouge:also thx u for ur reply.
作者: lilyhuang    时间: 2003-10-6 13:47
4.In June, 1981, six teenagers in the village of Medjugorje, Yugoslavia, claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who they say has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years.
(A) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(B) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(C) claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom
(D) claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary, who
(E) had claimed to have had visions of the Virgin Mary, whom

My view:
choice B,C,E should be first excluded because the clause can be regarded as  "who (they say) has continued to appear to them over the ensuing years", "who" serves as the subject of the clause. Between choice A and choice D, the verb "have visions of" occurs prior to the verb "claim". you can translate it into chinese"....声称已经目睹过virgin mary...". In fact, the clause also give a cue by describing ...continued to..., that means that they have had visions of virgin mary.

14. The Western world’s love affair with chocolate is well-documented: few people have been known to have tasted it for the first time without requesting more.
(A) few people have been known to have tasted it
(D) few people have been known to taste it

choice B,C,E respectively has obvious error.  About choice A and D, the sentence gives a cue by describing .....for the first time...., so i choice D. I think that the tense of the infinitive  is up to the logical meaning of the sentence.


作者: zhouhaichen    时间: 2003-10-6 23:30
标题: 同意!答得太好了.
以下是引用travellogue在2003-10-5 16:37:00的发言:
E definitely is not the answer, too "luosu" redundant. Meaning of the sentence, to make profit on your investment, you need to strike a balance among varioius factors such as knowledge, luck, timing etc.

First question actually did not focus on sentence tense. "who" in A is better than "whom", so A is the answer. Also "have had" is compatible with "claimed".

In your second sentence, scenario is different.

作者: westlife6th    时间: 2010-7-21 22:54
14题还是不明白啊,不是说for后面跟完成时态么?
作者: 小伊YSY    时间: 2010-7-25 21:55
up!
14题,我选的A,到底a,d该选哪个呀?为什么呢?
作者: ssyy23    时间: 2012-3-14 15:49
d怎么错了
作者: AlexYYY    时间: 2013-7-20 14:17
ssyy23 发表于 2012-3-14 15:49
d怎么错了

D并没有错,而是没A好。 因为 claim 和 have vision这个两个动作有一个时间先后的关系。
作者: xiqiong    时间: 2013-7-20 15:23
http://www.beatthegmat.com/the-western-world-s-love-affair-with-chocolate-t12316.html
PS一句,我觉得第一题用have had. 是因为原句想表达的意思是一直出现幻觉。
后面那个  at first time, 有限定。 所以就从简咯。
作者: hemodata    时间: 2013-7-20 16:53
xiqiong 发表于 2013-7-20 15:23
http://www.beatthegmat.com/the-western-world-s-love-affair-with-chocolate-t12316.html
PS一句,我觉 ...

哈哈,我和你想的是一样的,不过我第一次还是选错了,错在whom/who上。应该是从句的主语被they say修饰,而不是作they say的宾语吧
我也认为have had,想表达的是一种和事实的相反情况(因为是幻觉而已),类似虚拟语气

至于14题,就是小汐说的,既然已经说了是第一次尝试,就不可能用完成时态。完成时态暗示以后有可能不再发生了,而句子里面完全不是那个情况。至于E,分号后面的句子连动词都没了,显然是错的。、
作者: hemodata    时间: 2013-7-20 16:56
至于第9题,我觉得是因为is what one needs的插入导致了E的错误,把插入语挪到time后面去,句子应该就是对的了
吧?
作者: xiqiong    时间: 2013-7-20 17:00
hemodata 发表于 2013-7-20 16:56
至于第9题,我觉得是因为is what one needs的插入导致了E的错误,把插入语挪到time后面去,句子应该就是对 ...

那个我觉得是it ... to .. 的那个固定搭配~
作者: hemodata    时间: 2013-7-20 17:28
xiqiong 发表于 2013-7-20 17:00
那个我觉得是it ... to .. 的那个固定搭配~

D的搭配肯定是没问题的

我搜索了一下,因为一开始我认为among是对的
但现在应该确认不是了
这道题的逻辑是
a deft balance =the balance of savings discipline, investment knowledge, risk taking, luck, and time to raise a million dollars through investments
而用a balance among的话,包含一种还没确定的意味
所以即使调整了位置,E也是不对的
作者: xiqiong    时间: 2013-7-20 18:22
hemodata 发表于 2013-7-20 17:28
D的搭配肯定是没问题的

我搜索了一下,因为一开始我认为among是对的

啊~懂了这个感觉~虽然说不出来确切的原因~   OF有一种确定的意思~  就是限定了的感觉。 among只是有一种分配的关系~  好吧~我也不知道如何用语言确切的表达~




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