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作者: camilla2006 时间: 2006-6-29 16:22
标题: GWD30-14

Fact 1: Within each category, the rate of acceptance for domestic films was the same as that for foreign films.

Fact 2: The overall rate of acceptance of domestic films was significantly higher than that of foreign films.

In light of the background information, which of the following, if true, can account for fact 1 and fact 2 both being true of the submissions to this year’s Barbizon Film Festival?

In each category, the selection panel was composed of filmmakers, and some selection panels included no foreign filmmakers.
Significantly more domestic films than foreign films were submitted to the festival.
In each of the past three years, the overall acceptance rate was higher for foreign than for domestic films, an outcome that had upset some domestic filmmakers.
The number of films to be selected in each category was predetermined, but in no category was it required that the acceptance rate of foreign films should equal that of domestic films.
Most foreign films, unlike most domestic films, were submitted in categories with high prestige, but with correspondingly low rates of acceptance.

不知道为什么选E. 我选b. 是答案错了吗？请教思路。

作者: camilla2006 时间: 2006-6-29 16:46

我理解的Fact 1中的the rate of acceptance 和Fact 2中的The overall rate of acceptance 可以用如下例子：

the rate of acceptance：

Domestic: Foreign:

catagory 1: 10/20 1/2

catagory 2: 20/60 1/3

只举2个。

The overall rate of acceptance：

Domestic: 10+20/20+60+2+3=6/17

Foreign: 1+1/20+60+2+3=2/85

说明了选项B是正确的吧。请给我看看对不对。

作者: gonghao 时间: 2006-6-30 08:48

B不对

数量多不意味着通过的几率就大，如果都是垃圾片，数量再多也不会有多少会通过

E某种程度上是对FACT2的改写

FACT1是句废话，一视同仁是一句废话，意思就是只要片子好，大家都有机会通过panel

作者: mbz 时间: 2006-6-30 09:27

B is not right. This problem is very tricky. I bet most of the 老外 will become 头疼.

Look at :

Fact 2) The overall rate of acceptance of domestic films was significantly higher than that of foreign films.

then look at:

B) Significantly more domestic films than foreign films were submitted to the festival

It is obviously impossible to get B right when you consider that in every catergory they both have the same rate as claimed by Fact 1. If B is changed to the opposite: Less domestic films than foreign films were submitted to the festival. Then B can be right.

This problem is just a matter of manipulating the numbers.

your example was not right b/c your acceptance rates are different in both catergories.

Look at the example below:

Domestic: 1: 8/80 9/90 30/300

Foreign: 2: 2/20 1/10 70/700

Do the math yourself , you will see the difference.

The correct answer is E

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作者: hwhhs 时间: 2006-7-11 10:54
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作者: greentree_du 时间: 2006-9-2 11:02
还是没明白，如果E对，那就与Fact 1违背了呀。问的是哪个一能让F1和F2对满足。再请指点。

作者: mbz 时间: 2006-9-2 11:06
The rate of acceptance within each category and the overall rate of acceptance of all categories are totally different.

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作者: smileday 时间: 2006-10-25 12:48
in E, "in categories with high prestige" seems to be the key to evaluate this issue.

作者: zzlz 时间: 2006-12-29 06:54

还是用中文描述吧.

Fact 1: Within each category, the rate of acceptance for domestic films was the same as that for foreign films.

我的理解是,每个分类里面,国内电影的和国外电影的通过率是一样的.

Fact 2: The overall rate of acceptance of domestic films was significantly higher than that of foreign films.

我的理解是,国内电影的整体通过率高过国国外电影.

好,我具实际例子:假设3类影片,动作片,卡通片,言情片.

　动作片卡通片言情片合计
国外电影提交数量 20 2 20 2)" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent;">42
国外电影通过审核 2 1 15 3)" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent;">18
通过率 10% 50% 75% 42.86%
　　　　　
国内电影提交数量 80 90 100 6)" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent;">270
国内电影通过审核 8 45 75 7)" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent;">128
通过率 10% 50% 75% 47.41%

E中"low rates of acceptance",是一个绝对概念,就是说,他的意思不是本组的国内和国外电影比,而是说本来应该高一些的.

而B的错误在于根本和题目没关系.

我多提交怎么了,少点又何妨?

而E描述其实就是个废话概念.哈哈,因为不需要他说,其实(上表)就已经能形成fact1和fact2同时成立.

也就是说,E也就是评论者的角度说说话而已.

好比,同样5部优秀电影在欧洲多国都通过了(通过率100%),但是在中国,才通过4部80%,正好国内情况也是提交

100通过80部,通过率也是80%. "with correspondingly low rates of acceptance"就是说其实应该高一些的,和欧洲比,国内通过率低了.

希望我的解释正确,也希望能看懂我描述的.........

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作者: Koror 时间: 2006-12-29 15:11

B and E are related to the topic in the question but E is point to bridge the two facts

作者: graceyin7 时间: 2007-1-8 03:39

以下是引用zzlz在2006-12-29 6:54:00的发言：

还是用中文描述吧.

Fact 1: Within each category, the rate of acceptance for domestic films was the same as that for foreign films.

我的理解是,每个分类里面,国内电影的和国外电影的通过率是一样的.

Fact 2: The overall rate of acceptance of domestic films was significantly higher than that of foreign films.

我的理解是,国内电影的整体通过率高过国国外电影.

好,我具实际例子:假设3类影片,动作片,卡通片,言情片.

E中"low rates of acceptance",是一个绝对概念,就是说,他的意思不是本组的国内和国外电影比,而是说本来应该高一些的.

而B的错误在于根本和题目没关系.

我多提交怎么了,少点又何妨?

而E描述其实就是个废话概念.哈哈,因为不需要他说,其实(上表)就已经能形成fact1和fact2同时成立.

也就是说,E也就是评论者的角度说说话而已.

好比,同样5部优秀电影在欧洲多国都通过了(通过率100%),但是在中国,才通过4部80%,正好国内情况也是提交

100通过80部,通过率也是80%. "with correspondingly low rates of acceptance"就是说其实应该高一些的,和欧洲比,国内通过率低了.

希望我的解释正确,也希望能看懂我描述的.........

例子很清楚，但是解釋不太懂。可以麻煩再指導下一嗎? 謝謝...

作者: 飞天猪piggy 时间: 2007-1-10 17:56

这题我也做错了总觉得应该在数字上做文章所以在D,E中由于了半天还是选了D

现在想想问题是不是没有想象的那么复杂呢？

Fact 1: Within each category, the rate of acceptance for domestic films was the same as that for foreign films.

Fact 2: The overall rate of acceptance of domestic films was significantly higher than that of foreign films.

fact 1说专家评审组对国内和国外的电影的接受率相同

fact 2说总体(我的理解是：当地群众+专家)对国内电影的接受率〉〉国外电影

Why?

E. Most foreign films, unlike most domestic films, were submitted in categories with high prestige, but with correspondingly low rates of acceptance.

国外电影有威望受到专家的亲睐，而大众的taste不能适应国外电影的style，使得most foreign film得到的评价很高却不卖座。

Open to discuss...

作者: sabrina07 时间: 2007-1-14 18:15
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作者: lika_dk 时间: 2007-1-14 20:22

我的理解The number of films to be selected in each category was predetermined, but in no category was it required that the acceptance rate of foreign films should equal that of domestic films.外国电影的接受率和国内电影的接受率不相等，但是不相等不能说明国外电影的接受率就一定小于国内的电影的接受率，所以Ｄ不对．

Most foreign films, unlike most domestic films, were submitted in categories with high prestige, but with correspondingly low rates of acceptance.我觉的这局话是说外国电影和国内电影不同，外国电影和许多声誉很高的电影放在一起，这样外国电影的接受率就相对的低了．这就好比乒乓球比赛分组一样，一组里你外国队再多，有一只中国队（类比这里的with high prestige）你外国队就出不了线，何况现在的情况是一样多．所以外国电影的接受率就会小于国内电影了．

这是我的一点看法，不知道对不对．

作者: fairy533 时间: 2007-2-24 18:48

以下是引用zzlz在2006-12-29 6:54:00的发言：

还是用中文描述吧.

Fact 1: Within each category, the rate of acceptance for domestic films was the same as that for foreign films.

我的理解是,每个分类里面,国内电影的和国外电影的通过率是一样的.

Fact 2: The overall rate of acceptance of domestic films was significantly higher than that of foreign films.

我的理解是,国内电影的整体通过率高过国国外电影.

好,我具实际例子:假设3类影片,动作片,卡通片,言情片.

E中"low rates of acceptance",是一个绝对概念,就是说,他的意思不是本组的国内和国外电影比,而是说本来应该高一些的.

而B的错误在于根本和题目没关系.

我多提交怎么了,少点又何妨?

而E描述其实就是个废话概念.哈哈,因为不需要他说,其实(上表)就已经能形成fact1和fact2同时成立.

也就是说,E也就是评论者的角度说说话而已.

好比,同样5部优秀电影在欧洲多国都通过了(通过率100%),但是在中国,才通过4部80%,正好国内情况也是提交

100通过80部,通过率也是80%. "with correspondingly low rates of acceptance"就是说其实应该高一些的,和欧洲比,国内通过率低了.

希望我的解释正确,也希望能看懂我描述的.........

意思我看懂了，但是我不同意，这个说法，，其实在你举例子的时候，已经假设Ｂ是正确的了。你的例子里，国产片子的数量远大于国外片；所以得出了结论。你假设了例子之后，，又说题目本身就是对的，，不需要Ｂ。。。

我觉得是这样的。就像我楼上的所说的。

ＦＡＣＴ１是说，在每个分类中，国产片的接受率和国外片的是一样的。即那些讨论组的专家并没有歧视国外片，偏袒国内片。

ＦＡＣＴ２是说，然而，总得接受率，，国产片却高了许多。。。

它叫你解释。。这是为什么呢。。。

Ｅ，就像我楼上的所说的，，，说。。

Most foreign films, unlike most domestic films, were submitted in categories with high prestige, but with correspondingly low rates of acceptance.

很不巧的，那些国外片，，（不像国内影片那样），大部分都提交在那些片子都有很高威望的目录里．（即竞争者多），就有了相应的低接受率了．．

继续讨论．．．

作者: chamcham 时间: 2007-6-21 15:10

This question is pure math question and should in quantitative section

Anyway, here is my thought:

Majority of foreign films is in the categories which have high prestige but low rate of acceptance (but same low rate for both domestic and foreign films). For example:

Category # Foreign film domestic film acceptance rate

1 10/100 1/10 1/10

2 2/4 30/60 ½

So total acceptance rate for foreign film is 12/104 (close to 1/10), but total acceptance rate for domestic film are 31/70 (close to 1/2) so it is cool with both facts.

So it is E

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作者: nickynicky 时间: 2007-7-29 13:01

This year, each film submitted to the Barbizon Film Festival was submitted in one of ten categories

这句话什么意思？有人能帮忙翻译一下吗？

作者: 小雪猫 时间: 2007-7-30 05:12
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作者: ssl507 时间: 2007-7-31 00:53

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作者: 茉莉清茶 时间: 2007-8-2 20:43
标题: ：）

Fact 1: Within each category, the rate of acceptance for domestic films was the same as that for foreign films.

Fact 2: The overall rate of acceptance of domestic films was significantly higher than that of foreign films.

In light of the background information, which of the following, if true, can account for fact 1 and fact 2 both being true of the submissions to this year’s Barbizon Film Festival?

In each category, the selection panel was composed of filmmakers, and some selection panels included no foreign filmmakers.
Significantly more domestic films than foreign films were submitted to the festival.
In each of the past three years, the overall acceptance rate was higher for foreign than for domestic films, an outcome that had upset some domestic filmmakers.
The number of films to be selected in each category was predetermined, but in no category was it required that the acceptance rate of foreign films should equal that of domestic films.
Most foreign films, unlike most domestic films, were submitted in categories with high prestige, but with correspondingly low rates of acceptance.

在时间很短的情况下做这种题目我觉得举极端情况的例子最好．题目里说有十个不同的组别，在Ｅ　选项里，我们就举两个好了，对国内国内的电影来说．第一组的通过率都为８０％，第二组要求高点，通过率只有２０％，如果国内电影全部跑到第一组去了，国外的全部去第二组了，那么很显然最后的结果是国内电影的通过率要远远高于国外电影的通过率，虽然在每一组当中各自的通过率都是一样的．

再看Ｂ，即使国内电影数量大大超过国外电影，如果国内的全部去第二组，国外的去第一组，那么结果就与题目的条件２相反了．所以Ｅ　是关键

作者: jjkate2001 时间: 2007-8-9 21:13

楼上讲的极有道理啊！终于明白了呵

作者: mimixiaxia 时间: 2007-8-30 17:31
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作者: mimixiaxia 时间: 2007-8-30 17:42

20楼解释的真好
这道题的关键是理解:一组里面通过率是相同,但组与组之间通过率可以不同,从而会导致总的通过率不同
E就说了大多国外片都跑到那些通过率低的组去了,那么总的通过率自然就低了

作者: sheilajin 时间: 2007-9-11 19:12

E说明国外的片子比较集中在几个CATEGORY，等于自己和自己抢名额，最后通过率就低了

作者: rebirth115 时间: 2008-3-12 17:44

以下是引用茉莉清茶在2007-8-2 20:43:00的发言：

Fact 1: Within each category, the rate of acceptance for domestic films was the same as that for foreign films.

Fact 2: The overall rate of acceptance of domestic films was significantly higher than that of foreign films.

In light of the background information, which of the following, if true, can account for fact 1 and fact 2 both being true of the submissions to this year’s Barbizon Film Festival?

In each category, the selection panel was composed of filmmakers, and some selection panels included no foreign filmmakers.
Significantly more domestic films than foreign films were submitted to the festival.
In each of the past three years, the overall acceptance rate was higher for foreign than for domestic films, an outcome that had upset some domestic filmmakers.
The number of films to be selected in each category was predetermined, but in no category was it required that the acceptance rate of foreign films should equal that of domestic films.
Most foreign films, unlike most domestic films, were submitted in categories with high prestige, but with correspondingly low rates of acceptance.

再看Ｂ，即使国内电影数量大大超过国外电影，如果国内的全部去第二组，国外的去第一组，那么结果就与题目的条件２相反了．所以Ｅ　是关键

MM 太牛了看了这么多，才终于被你说服了赞一个

作者: eileenmu木 时间: 2008-3-24 20:51
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作者: Mars861227 时间: 2008-4-13 11:13

做错的都应该是E没看懂

E. Most foreign films, unlike most domestic films, were submitted in categories with high prestige, but with correspondingly low rates of acceptance.

categories with high prestiges 是指有很高威望的类别（直译，意思是这些类别的panel审核比较严，而大部分most foreign film都在这些组，当然总的通过率就少了）

B:绝对无关，它只说了提交的数量又没说通过的数量

作者: russellguo 时间: 2008-6-15 17:45

我的理解是，这个要用数学思维翻译就是个权重问题。

作者: 夜凉如水 时间: 2008-8-7 17:53
有道理

作者: NOTALOSER 时间: 2008-11-14 11:18

这题的理解关键还是在FACT 1中的each category和FACT 2中的overall category的上，而且FACT 1中的一个重要隐含条件一定要找出：每个不同的category的通过率是可以不同的，比如第一组20%，第二组可以是80%，但是第一组的20%与第二组的80%的通过率对于国内电影、国外电影又是相同的。

E选项实际上是解释了这个现象；而B是无关选项，从头到尾都是rate的比较，不涉及到数量，更与总数无关，少送点多送点没有影响。

作者: funbob 时间: 2008-11-21 18:35

You got it !

另外個角度看,加權平均的概念,或許也好懂

我當初把文意看走偏了: I misinterpreted Fact2: Overall rate... = Do / (Do+For) 與 For/(Do+For)比

正確的Fact 2: Total Do (Accepted)/ Total Do submitted 與Total For(Accepted)/ Total For submitted 比

感謝樓上的同學

From Taiwan

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作者: JimmyYeh 时间: 2009-3-5 11:56

20樓最牛 upup

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作者: hionekg 时间: 2009-6-10 15:57
很奇怪的一道题

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OK

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作者: running2k 时间: 2009-12-20 03:52

Background information: This year, each film submitted to the Barbizon Film Festival was submitted in one of ten categories. For each category, there was a panel that decided which submitted films to accept.

Fact 1: Within each category, the rate of acceptance for domestic films was the same as that for foreign films.

Fact 2: The overall rate of acceptance of domestic films was significantly higher than that of foreign films.

In light of the background information, which of the following, if true, can account for fact 1 and fact 2 both being true of the submissions to this year’s Barbizon Film Festival?

In each category, the selection panel was composed of filmmakers, and some selection panels included no foreign filmmakers.
Significantly more domestic films than foreign films were submitted to the festival.
In each of the past three years, the overall acceptance rate was higher for foreign than for domestic films, an outcome that had upset some domestic filmmakers.
The number of films to be selected in each category was predetermined, but in no category was it required that the acceptance rate of foreign films should equal that of domestic films.
Most foreign films, unlike most domestic films, were submitted in categories with high prestige, but with correspondingly low rates of acceptance.

-- by 会员茉莉清茶 (2007/8/2 20:43:00)

例子最清楚，顶！！

作者: liverpool123 时间: 2010-1-7 00:15
标题: 其实还是理解fact1和fact2含义
right

作者: kaitlynyl 时间: 2010-3-13 10:55
很多题都是没读明白造成的。拐来拐去的。其实练来练去也就那些东西……唉~

作者: 超超琪琪格 时间: 2010-10-2 00:51
这题给我的最大收获就是题干中rate的比较，选项中只有关于number的肯定是无关。

作者: zinniz 时间: 2010-10-22 18:46
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作者: chengbin323 时间: 2011-7-12 15:31
20楼。。。牛！

作者: teddybearj4 时间: 2012-5-13 20:06
天啊~这题这么复杂！！！有病啊！

作者: 452272330 时间: 2013-10-12 12:45
20楼的比例可以达到，但是换一下比例，就达不到了，这题无解的。比如d1 1/9 d2 10/100 f1 3/27 f2 1/10 td 11/109 小于tf 4/37 e 选项错误，b选项也是错误，可以用类似方法得到，其他选项无关。

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茉莉清茶发表于 2007-8-2 20:43
Background information:  This year, each film submitted to the Barbizon Film Festival was submi ...

好！！！！

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作者: 安猪 时间: 2017-8-9 11:43

NOTALOSER 发表于 2008-11-14 11:18
这题的理解关键还是在FACT 1中的each category和FACT 2中的overall category的上，而且FACT 1中的一个重要 ...

同意！

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