由于偶最近逻辑遇到bottleneck了，久攻不下，十分郁闷，经过咨询斑斑后，特在此开个偶逻辑讨论，忘各路NN 指点。
下面说一下我目前逻辑的进展。
CXD 做完1遍，当时感觉有比较大的进步，但是由于后来专攻语法了，感觉多半没有了。
OG11做了1遍，看了差不多3遍了，但是没有横向总结。做了部分GWD，正确率尚可。
上个星期开始偶的lawyer分类，按照lawyer和斑斑的方法，进行逻辑分类总结。不知道偶做题的思路是否正确，现在做题感觉还比较模糊，特别是不熟悉的题目。读完题后只能形成一个比较模糊的因果关系，有的时候题目要读2遍，有的时候有关无关的排除也会出错，特别是经常把正确的选项给排除掉了。
好了，废话少说。
下面是我做lawyer分类逻辑的那个文件，里面有我每道题的思路。NN们帮我看1下吧~~实在郁闷
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weaken类问题: 1)OG-96 http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=24&ID=175021&page=1
CXD 做完1遍，当时感觉有比较大的进步，但是由于后来专攻语法了，感觉多半没有了。
这里，为什么GG做到一半挺下来了？ 可以偏重不能偏废啊。感觉停了要花很大力气才能挽回的。
OG11做了1遍，看了差不多3遍了，但是没有横向总结。做了部分GWD，正确率尚可。
为什么没有横向总结？逻辑和阅读时最需要横向总结的。比多做100道题还重要！因为能帮助你建立自己的解题思路体系
另外思路模糊，呵呵，并不奇怪，偶刚开始GWD的时候也是这个感觉。新题目，得思忖半天。关于正确选项被排除的情况，我也经历过。就是一下子对一个选项没有感觉，然后就稀里糊涂排除啦。但是回过头一看，这种选项往往会拐弯或者又隐含条件，需要pause一下，看看它是不是在按照结论的推理方向走。
最后还是要强调横向总结！这个在强调也不为过。GG甚至可以先在酒吧以前的题目全拿来看一下。但是不要停止做新题。你离考试还有一定的时间吧。
CXD 做完1遍，当时感觉有比较大的进步，但是由于后来专攻语法了，感觉多半没有了。
这里，为什么GG做到一半挺下来了？ 可以偏重不能偏废啊。感觉停了要花很大力气才能挽回的。
OG11做了1遍，看了差不多3遍了，但是没有横向总结。做了部分GWD，正确率尚可。
为什么没有横向总结？逻辑和阅读时最需要横向总结的。比多做100道题还重要！因为能帮助你建立自己的解题思路体系
另外思路模糊，呵呵，并不奇怪，偶刚开始GWD的时候也是这个感觉。新题目，得思忖半天。关于正确选项被排除的情况，我也经历过。就是一下子对一个选项没有感觉，然后就稀里糊涂排除啦。但是回过头一看，这种选项往往会拐弯或者又隐含条件，需要pause一下，看看它是不是在按照结论的推理方向走。
最后还是要强调横向总结！这个在强调也不为过。GG甚至可以先在酒吧以前的题目全拿来看一下。但是不要停止做新题。你离考试还有一定的时间吧。
7月底考试啊，时间还有。恩。偶贴几个偶做的题，大家帮我看看思路是不是正确，然后大家也贴上你们做题的思路吧，这样偶可以参照一下。
121. Manufacturers sometimes discount the price of a product to retailers for a promotion period when the product is advertised to consumers. Such promotion often results in a dramatic increase in amount of product sold by the manufacturers to retailers. Nevertheless, the manufacturers could often make more profit by not holding the promotions.
卖给零售商的时候折扣增加，但是如果没有这个促销政策，可能会有更大的利润
Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports the claim above about the manufacturers’ profit?
(A) The amount of discount generally offered by manufacturers to retailers is carefully calculated to represent the minimum needed to draw consumers’ attention to the product.
(B) For many consumer products the period of advertising discounted prices to consumers is about a week, not sufficiently long for consumers to become used to the sale price. （可不可以这样理解？文中说的是卖给retailer的量增加，所以广告对consumer的直接影响不在推理链的范围）
(C) For products that are not newly introduced, the purpose of such promotions is to keep the products in the minds of consumers and to attract consumers who are currently using competing products. （products not newly introduced, not related）
(D) During such a promotion retailers tend to accumulate in their warehouses inventory bought at discount; they then sell much of it later at their regular price. (也就是说利润都被零售商抢走了，对公司本身并没有什么影响)
D
(E) If a manufacturer fails to offer such promotions but its competitor offers them, that competitor will tend to attract consumers away from the manufacturer’s product. （说明这个有用，所以不是support）
这道题目偶确实不大明白真个逻辑过程。
189.Studies have shown that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one. Researchers have concluded that the will to live can prolong life, at least for short periods of time. 节后死亡>节前死亡->will to live prolong life 关键词在于时间和死亡 Which of the following, if true, would most strengthen the researchers’ conclusion? (A) Elderly people who practice a religion are less likely to die immediately before or during an important religious holiday than at any other time of the year. （支持，before or during, less likely to die，说明能够prolong） (B) Elderly people who practice a religion appear to experience less anxiety at the prospect of dying than do other people. (无关比较，anxiety) (C) Some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not. （看到some，排除掉） (D) Most elderly people who participate in religious holidays have different reasons for participating than young people do. （无关比较，reasons for participating） (E) Many religions have important holidays in the spring and fall, seasons with the lowest death rates for elderly people. （general seasonal information lends no support） 这道题目偶当时排除了半天也没排除对。。。。。。
A
189.Studies have shown that elderly people who practice a religion are much more likely to die immediately after an important religious holiday period than immediately before one. Researchers have concluded that the will to live can prolong life, at least for short periods of time.
节后死亡>节前死亡->will to live prolong life
关键词在于时间和死亡
Which of the following, if true, would most strengthen the researchers’ conclusion?
(A) Elderly people who practice a religion are less likely to die immediately before or during an important religious holiday than at any other time of the year. （支持，before or during, less likely to die，说明能够prolong）
(B) Elderly people who practice a religion appear to experience less anxiety at the prospect of dying than do other people. (无关比较，anxiety)
(C) Some elderly people who do practice a religion live much longer than most elderly people who do not. （看到some，排除掉）
(D) Most elderly people who participate in religious holidays have different reasons for participating than young people do. （无关比较，reasons for participating）
A
(E) Many religions have important holidays in the spring and fall, seasons with the lowest death rates for elderly people. （general seasonal information lends no support）
这道题目偶当时排除了半天也没排除对。。。。。。
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=34&ID=63177&replyID=&skin=1
南瓜姐姐给的链接。GG参考！
Lawyer给的回答：
Logic reasoning is hard to man people. Most of people who gain high score in GMAT devote much time, effort and energy on it. And no one can tell how to deal with logic question in several words. It needs time.
there are two important things regarding logic question. One is understnading and another is the thinking, namely how to handle logic question. If you solves these two questions. Logic reasoning will be more easier.
good luck
横向总结，是分类再做一遍么？
我是gwd 经常读不清楚，。。思维道还是很清楚
我觉得楼主可能还是阅读的精准不够.觉得好像读懂了,但是好像又没有...这样很容易被选项误导.
我觉得,楼主可以把每种逻辑题类型选一些,做精读和精做.仔细研究一下.
我建议做这样一个工作,就是看到逻辑题的题干,把每句话的中心词或中心意思用你自己的简短的话总结出来.然后把每句话的中心串起来,把整个题干简化.这样练习一下或许可以对明确逻辑关系有好处.
突破。。。我想来想去最好的方法就是看讨论帖。。。虽然很多人的思路不对，但是你要看懂他们怎么不对了。
我自己看下来，觉得长进不少。加油哈，我经验不多，希望能帮上忙。
1、 逻辑首先是阅读，要确保阅读一定能理解原文和每个选项的意思。。在刚开始的时候，很可能是由于
阅读的原因，由于把题意理解错误而造成选错。
因为做题的时间是非常有限的，所以很容易由于紧张等原因造成对原文的理解错误。
2、 如果能在规定的时间内准确的理解题意，那么无论是哪种类型的逻辑题，都应该在心里有一个答案的
预判，也就是对答案在心里要有个或清晰或模糊的方向感。
3、 达到这一步后，就只需要在5个选项里找和你的感觉相近的选项就可以了。
4、 为了达到这步，必要的练习是必要的。OG是一部分，当然个人感觉OG的解释不是特别详尽，尤其是初
看起来，虽然每题后的解释能比较好的解释本题，但是很难推广开来。所以自己要做的工作就是分类的总
结，这个我猜在CD上能找到吧。（我是自己做的总结，没有找其他人的。）总结的作用就是把相同类型的
题目好好思考，弄清楚这个类型的题目总的逻辑规律。这样感觉的把握就比较大了。
在这里我觉得狒狒135很好，这里的题目都是从LSAT里抽出来的，但是和GMAT的类型非常相近。而阅读的量也是非常好的。所以一定要仔细研究这135题，尤其是仔细考虑其中的逻辑关系。
呵呵，这就是我的一点心得。对各位有帮助而不是误导是我最大的心愿！
总结确实要自己做，但可以参考前人的。关于FF的作用我不是很了解，做过几套，觉得和GMAT感觉不是很想就停下来只做OG和GWD了。可以根据自己的情况调节。
谢谢楼上详细的讲解。很受用。
ff135不像 其他 lsat,我觉得难度适中，思维正常，可以练练
不过提干没有gwd长
同志啊，看来要好好练练阅读啊．．．
练过＂杨鹏难句＂么？
末有练过杨鹏啊~~~不过阅读错得挺少的啊~~速度也挺快~~不知道为虾米逻辑总要想一想才能做对
大家帮偶看看这2道题目的思路是虾米样子的?
On the basis of figures it complies, a citizens’ group argues that congressional members of party X authorize the spending of more taxpayer dollars than do congressional members of Party Y. The group’s figures are based on an analysis of the number of spending bills for which members of Congress vote.
The figures of the citizens’ group will be unreliable as a gauge of which party in Congress spends more taxpayer dollars if which of the following is true?
A) the group weighs all votes for spending bills equally, no matter how much taxpayer money is involved in each bill.
B) The group counts votes for all spending bills, including bills concerning the salaries of members of congress.
C) Most spending bills that members of Party X vote for are passed by Congress.
D) Most spending bills that members of Party X vote for are written and sponsored by members of Party X.
E) All spending bills, before being voted on by Congress, must be approved by committees in which members of both parties participate.
How does a building contractor most readily prove compliance with the building codes governing new construction? By using those established technologies that the authors of the codes had in mind when setting specifications. This, unfortunately, means that there will never be any significant technological innovation within the industry.
Which of the following, if true, casts the most serious doubt on the conclusion above?
A) Among the authors of codes governing new construction are people who were formerly building contractors.
B) The authors of codes governing new construction are under pressure to set rigorous specifications.
C) What are now regarded as established technologies were once so innovative that the authors of the codes then applicable could not have foreseen them.
D) Noncompliance with the codes governing new construction can prove extremely costly to the building contractor in charge of the project.
E) The established technologies of one country’s building industry can be very different from those of another’s.
第一题事实上是解释题，解释不能作为标准的原因。不需要充分性，只要解释差异。D表示X政党的政治资金有其特殊性，正确。其他都是无关项。
第二题削弱，而且是削弱方式中的直接攻击结论，原文结论是法令限制了新技术，C表示历史上法令并没有限制新技术，正确。
顺便说一下，你的方法总结很好。
我的意见是，根据lawyer_1的分类方法固然好，但更重要的是自己吃透。
OG那么多题目，其实无论什么题型，充其量就几种解题思路。关键是"thinking of the reasoning while reading, practice in that way as fast as possible."
另外说一下怎么做题，其实在掌握大量解题思路后，做题步骤才是关键。
1）读原文，理清逻辑思路，有没有明显的逻辑错误，逻辑关系的推理是不是convincing
2）读题干，其实先读题干还是先读原文，没有定论。快速闪过，该题型的解题要领。
3）读选项，快速排除明显错误的，大多为无关项。
4）同时，对拿不准的，记住选项号，并继续往下读。
5）原则上，五选二，在两个拿不定主意的时候，根据经验判断。
6）对那些，所有选项都快速排除的题目，时间允许的话，重读原文；否则根据感觉选。
7) 什么是经验，什么是感觉，多做GWD的题，少做LSAT的题，你就知道什么是感觉了。
一家之言，欢迎批判。
A is right , please pay attention to the changes of the bold faced words below to get the feel.
--The group argues that congressional members of party X authorize the spending of more taxpayer dollars than do congressional members of Party
--based on an analysis of the number of spending bills for which members of Congress vote
-- A) the group weighs all votes for spending bills equally, no matter how much taxpayer money is involved in each bill.
oh, after scrutinizing the question again, I agree that A is the best answer.
仍然是解释差异，但不是解释X和Y的差异，而是解释figure和gauge的差异。题目没看清。
其实好象还是有问题,一觉醒来,感觉全木有了,做TS的逻辑完全木有感觉,一套要错个四五道!还在痛苦的奋斗中~~
我7月26号考
yes, you are lucky, enough time to practice.
Be patient, you are on the right way!
谢谢hawkinsxie,"读原文，理清逻辑思路，有没有明显的逻辑错误，逻辑关系的推理是不是convincing",这个好象做起来挺难的,我现在还做不到,我只能马上辨认出每部分的作用,所以boldface这些基本不会错.但是我发现如果用中文意思去理清关系好象很费时间,我大概需要30秒左右去理清这种关系并用一句话总结出来,但是这样做题速度就慢了.
不知道你是怎么理清这种思路的?
我觉得我的逻辑，错的基本上都是题目没读明白……真的想不出来的比较少……烦闷无比啊……
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