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作者: catcenter    时间: 2006-5-24 19:29
标题: 请教GWD 29-27

Q27:

Though sucking zinc lozenges has been promoted as a treatment for the common cold, research has revealed no consistent effect.  Recently, however, a zinc gel applied nasally has been shown to greatly reduce the duration of colds.  Since the gel contains zinc in the same form and concentration as the lozenges, the greater effectiveness of the gel must be due to the fact that cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.

 

In order to evaluate the argument, it would be most helpful to determine which of the following?

 

  1. Whether zinc is effective only against colds, or also has an effect on other virally caused diseases
  2. Whether there are remedies that do not contain zinc but that, when taken orally, can reduce the duration of colds
  3. Whether people who frequently catch colds have a zinc deficiency
  4. Whether either the zinc gel or the lozenges contain ingredients that have an impact on the activity of the zinc
  5. Whether the zinc gel has an effect on the severity of cold symptoms, as well as on their duration

C,E哪个对?


作者: wycg    时间: 2006-5-24 20:23

CE是无关项.只有D把这个问题说清了.楼主再看看文章吧.

先把文章读懂再看选项.


作者: catcenter    时间: 2006-5-25 19:43

哦,问错了。..

是B对什么不对啊

在BD中徘徊许久


作者: wycg    时间: 2006-5-25 20:40
以下是引用catcenter在2006-5-25 19:43:00的发言:

哦,问错了。..

是B对什么不对啊

在BD中徘徊许久

B也是无关项.因为文章比较的两个都含zinc的.只是用法不同.

B说的:Whether there are remedies that do not contain zinc but that, when taken orally, can reduce the duration of colds
    

有或是没有都不能评价文章说的事实.


作者: catcenter    时间: 2006-5-25 23:07

问一下

原文的结论是

the greater effectiveness of the gel must be due to the fact that cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.

还是

the fact that cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth

如果是后者,是不是BD都可以?


作者: wycg    时间: 2006-5-26 09:57
以下是引用catcenter在2006-5-25 23:07:00的发言:

问一下

原文的结论是

the greater effectiveness of the gel must be due to the fact that cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.

还是

the fact that cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth

如果是后者,是不是BD都可以?

是这个"the greater effectiveness of the gel must be due to the fact that cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth."


作者: rosierosie    时间: 2006-5-30 22:08
D 是个桥吧?
作者: 香香茶    时间: 2006-6-4 14:49
D选项如何起evaluate的作用,谁能给我讲讲?谢谢~
作者: wycg    时间: 2006-6-4 15:18
以下是引用香香茶在2006-6-4 14:49:00的发言:
D选项如何起evaluate的作用,谁能给我讲讲?谢谢~

Since the gel contains zinc in the same form and concentration as the lozenges, the greater effectiveness of the gel must be due to the fact that cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.

D:Whether either the zinc gel or the lozenges contain ingredients that have an impact on the activity of the zinc.

如果是YES, 就是说这两种药因为有其它的东东引起了药效不一样,那么就不能说cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.

如果是NO,那就是两种药因药效一样,是可以说cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.

因此D是可以evaluate原文.


作者: 香香茶    时间: 2006-6-4 21:31

明白了,谢谢斑竹!


作者: 晴天小狗    时间: 2006-11-14 10:24

顶D


作者: erykah    时间: 2006-11-20 13:06

這題選D啊,我手中的答案說選B,搞得我以爲我腦子又不靈光了

浪費我感情


作者: gmat30    时间: 2006-12-7 12:21
thanks banzhu!!!
作者: hedge    时间: 2006-12-8 13:59
i run into the same trouble
作者: wangwei8581    时间: 2007-1-7 17:16
我开始选b,现在认可d:单因子变量才能保证比较试验
作者: prosignia    时间: 2007-7-5 21:28
我还是觉得B比D更直接。
结论是病毒在鼻子里,不在嘴里。
而B说不含锌的口服药也有效,证明了嘴里还是有病毒的,直接反对"not in month"。
D说have an impact on the activity of the zinc,但不管啥影响(除非说清楚是让zinc失效),都不能证明到底嘴里有没有病毒。

作者: avax    时间: 2007-8-23 11:44
以下是引用prosignia在2007-7-5 21:28:00的发言:
我还是觉得B比D更直接。
结论是病毒在鼻子里,不在嘴里。
而B说不含锌的口服药也有效,证明了嘴里还是有病毒的,直接反对"not in month"。
D说have an impact on the activity of the zinc,但不管啥影响(除非说清楚是让zinc失效),都不能证明到底嘴里有没有病毒。

开始也选B,

但B有个问题就是楼上只说不含锌的口服药也有效,若无效则无法评估。

后来想想还是D更贴切——像wangwei8581 说的:
单因子变量才能保证比较试验
    


作者: vivian_chi    时间: 2007-11-15 20:28

还是不明白啊,D选项:区别一个是gel一个是XX,为什么要讨论他们共同有的特征呢(都有zinc)?


作者: 顿顿的微笑    时间: 2008-3-4 19:28

UP


作者: dan2007    时间: 2008-3-26 07:21
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作者: pharmacystar    时间: 2008-3-26 11:05

D

gel是鼻腔给药

lozenges是口腔给药

文章的结论是说 虽然两种剂型里 zinc的形式和浓度是一样的,但是明显gel的药效更强

d的意思是说,是否gel或者lozenges 中含有附加成分也就是辅料影响了zinc的药效

这是针对  Since the gel contains zinc in the same form and concentration as the lozenges这句话的

我差点选成B,因为B是貌似批驳 结论的原因的,鼻腔比口腔中有更多的细菌

但是B是说,另一种药在口腔中有效,lozenges本身在口腔中也有效

如果B换成  另一种药在口腔中比在鼻腔中有效,那么我们还可以考虑,也算是一个弱weaken


作者: pharmacystar    时间: 2008-3-26 11:12

从专业的角度来考虑这个问题

文中说must be true,那么D找出了另一个原因,最直接的批判了 must be true

B为什么不对,因为从新药开发的角度来讲,就算另外有一种药在口腔给药也证明有效,我们也不能证明什么

因为口腔和鼻腔的血液是相通的,口腔吸收也可以到鼻腔

这和药物性质有关

有的药物是大分子,就是在口腔比在鼻腔吸收好

所以B的情况太复杂,并不能直接的去驳斥argument


作者: vsuperman    时间: 2008-7-3 20:44

为什么不选e啊。e的感冒症状就是指鼻子啊(感冒会打喷嚏,不会流口水的,呵呵)。所以关系到病毒是在鼻子里或是在嘴里啊,跟原文结合岂不会更紧。


作者: smilecrystal    时间: 2008-8-6 10:36
E:回答能,不能
都不能评价原文的结论(病毒集中在鼻,不是集中在口-->gel 比lozenges更有效
应该算无关吧

作者: yinlixiao    时间: 2008-9-11 13:14
这题是B.
这题的结论是: the greater effectiveness of the gel must be due to the fact that cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.

D的错误有几点:
1. 题目没有说zinc的作用,the activity of the zinc是什么我们也不知道,可能帮助zinc可能削弱。
2. 如果回答yes, 有impact, 但是是什么类型的impact, impact benefits的对象不同,结论加强或削弱。
如果回答no, 没有impact, 对结论没有影响。
很多人误解了D,是因为他们在回答什么类型的impact, 而不是问题的本身,有没有an impact, 至于impact是什么谁也不知道,这个impact到底对两类药有什么作用也不知道。
即使知道了又怎样,题目有说过zinc的作用吗。
3.evaluate是通过肯定或 否定来削弱或加强结论。


作者: yinlixiao    时间: 2008-9-16 10:21

Q27:

Though sucking zinc lozenges has been promoted as a treatment for the common cold, research has revealed no consistent effect.  Recently, however, a zinc gel applied nasally has been shown to greatly reduce the duration of colds.  Since
the gel contains zinc in the same form and concentration as the
lozenges, the greater effectiveness of the gel must be due to the fact
that cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.

 

In order to evaluate the argument, it would be most helpful to determine which of the following?

 

  1. Whether zinc is effective only against colds, or also has an effect on other virally caused diseases
  2. Whether there are remedies that do not contain zinc but that, when taken orally, can reduce the duration of colds
  3. Whether people who frequently catch colds have a zinc deficiency
  4. Whether either the zinc gel or the lozenges contain ingredients that have an impact on the activity of the zinc
  5. Whether the zinc gel has an effect on the severity of cold symptoms, as well as on their duration
首先我们要了解作者理解的the greater effectiveness是因为zinc gel greatly reduce the duration of colds。 接着他认为原因是这个差异:细菌集中在鼻子而不是在口腔。
B选项中,如果一种口服药也能
reduce the duration of colds,那么就跟zinc gel一样有the greater effectiveness,但是这种药如同zinc lozenges是口服的,所以就能证明鼻子和口腔不是效果差异的重点。

D就是ETS的常用的陷阱。
Whether either the zinc gel or the lozenges contain ingredients that have an impact on the activity of the zinc?
因为我们不了解到底是什么样impact. 假设答案是yes, 如果这些impact是favor
zinc gel,那么我们可以认为是因为这个impact,所以它的疗效好,削弱结论; 如果这些impact favor zinc lozenges, 那么我们就在加强这个结论,指出zinc lozenges本来应该效果更好,但是因为施药的地方不对,反而让药效不佳的zinc gelch产生的效果更好,太神奇了!

好像前面还有一道相似的题目。

作者: 门萨来了    时间: 2008-12-29 14:07
以下是引用wycg在2006-6-4 15:18:00的发言:

Since the gel contains zinc in the same form and concentration as the lozenges, the greater effectiveness of the gel must be due to the fact that cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.

D:Whether either the zinc gel or the lozenges contain ingredients that have an impact on the activity of the zinc.

如果是YES, 就是说这两种药因为有其它的东东引起了药效不一样,那么就不能说cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.

如果是NO,那就是两种药因药效一样,是可以说cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.

因此D是可以evaluate原文.

同意版主的解释,B是无关选项

如果能把D改写成either the zinc gel or the lozenges contain ingredients that have the same impact就更好了


作者: reallingling    时间: 2008-12-30 09:25
first instinct tells me that D is the right answer.
作者: szy733    时间: 2009-2-13 15:51
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作者: carlsu    时间: 2009-4-5 15:13

B

1. 注意原题的结论是“gel之所以有效是因为病毒聚集在鼻子而非嘴部”,如果有别的口服药物证明有效,那么削弱结论,说明病毒不是在鼻子;否则加强结论;

2. D的错误在于,题干根本没说zinc是导致药物有效从而治疗cold的成分,即使gel或者lozenge含有影响zinc的成分又怎么样呢?


作者: 没办法1987    时间: 2009-9-15 11:52

Since the gel contains zinc in the same form and concentration as the lozenges, the greater effectiveness of the gel must be due to the fact that cold viruses tend to concentrate in the nose, not the mouth.

结论说:因为gellozenges两者的zinc含量和形式的一样的,所以影响药效的原因只能是“服药方式”(假设:只有这两种因素)

D:
            
Whether either the zinc gel or the lozenges contain ingredients that have an impact on the activity of the zinc.(是否有第三种因素影响药效)

 

如果是YES, 就是说这两种药因为有其它的
                ingredients
引起了药效不一样,那么就不能说是“服药方式”影响药效了.

 

B说,是否有不含 zinc 的口服药能治疗。文章说的方法是“鼻子”影响,而非“口服”没影响。

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