ＧＷＤ３０－２９
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the balloon procedure by itself.
ＮＮ帮忙看看啊，Ｂ or C， 到底选哪个啊？！
晕了！
我不是NN，我选C，供你参考。原因如下：
C，that和but that平行，to determine比for determine要符合惯用法，whether比whether or not简洁，than后面的成分省略不会歧义。
Ｔhank you ,香香茶！
答案给的是Ｃ，还有一答案给的是Ｂ？！
我做的时候，一直在考虑两个问题：
一个是，既然是agreed，那应该用was还是is，
＂ balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than....＂，可以看成一个普遍的规律如此之类的东东？
还有就是than 后的is需要补出来吗，前面有is和for，不会造成歧义吗？
我觉得这个是要决定而尚未决定的，to determine有这个含义，所以可以用is.我不认为这是一个类似于普遍规律之类的东东。
than后面的is,可以不用补出来。因为很明显是与balloon比较而非与for后面的成分比较，再说by itself也可以加强了这种意义，不会歧义。
我觉得这个是要决定而尚未决定的，to determine有这个含义，所以可以用is.我不认为这是一个类似于普遍规律之类的东东。
than后面的is,可以不用补出来。因为很明显是与balloon比较而非与for后面的成分比较，再说by itself也可以加强了这种意义，不会歧义。
１．ＯＧ２１５～A and B use the indicative verb rewards, whereas the logic of the sentence demands the conditional would reward (what Parliament believes to be the undue rewarding of illegal immigrants has not actually taken place but is considered only as an outcome of a hypothetical action)
我一直以为未确定的事是用虚拟的，比如would；是我搞错概念了吗？
２．虽然知道意思，可是，一直强调不要有歧义；所以，老觉得补出比不补出好！
我觉得我说的决定和你说的确定不是一码事。可能是我没说清楚，题目的意思是：需要更多的研究工作来决定哪个更好。而这个决定后面的内容是尚未发生的，所以用一般现在时。另外，我觉得这里不存在假设，和你举的例子是不同的。
只要没有歧义，就不用补出。简洁，精确都是GMAT的考点。
哦,3x!
我再想想!
more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
1.was or was not 显的复杂，whether简洁，肯定也是更好的选择，排除ADE
2. need 。。。 to do比起need for doing更好，排除B
正确选项C
恩,谢谢gonghao!
清楚了,做的时候给的两个答案!
又想想补出IS也没错,所以犯糊涂了!
省略的问题,还是没掌握透!
1.一个是，既然是agreed，那应该用was还是is，
＂ balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than....＂，可以看成一个普遍的规律如此之类的东东？
首先agreed 的时态已经在下面两处体现出来了，对于还没有出现的more research用was是不合适的
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the balloon procedure by itself.
2.是than 后的is需要补出来吗，前面有is和for，不会造成歧义吗？
不会歧异。因为for+人 ；than 如果歧异的话后面的东西应该和人一致，显然不一致，也没划线，不考虑了：）另外by onself是个标志，很难造成歧异
that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound
is any better for heart attack patients than
the balloon procedure by itself.
1.一个是，既然是agreed，那应该用was还是is，
＂ balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than....＂，可以看成一个普遍的规律如此之类的东东？
首先agreed 的时态已经在下面两处体现出来了，对于还没有出现的more research用was是不合适的
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the balloon procedure by itself.
2.是than 后的is需要补出来吗，前面有is和for，不会造成歧义吗？
不会歧异。因为for+人 ；than 如果歧异的话后面的东西应该和人一致，显然不一致，也没划线，不考虑了：）另外by onself是个标志，很难造成歧异
that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound
is any better for heart attack patients than
the balloon procedure by itself.
谢谢你的解释,尤其是第一个解释,我彻底明白了!
哈哈!
偶也选了C,可是这题答案给的不是B吗?
所以偶才来翻贴子...
看过前人的一篇帖子，也是分析这道题目的，当时认为是b
因为whether or not 的目的是为了简洁，仍然可以理解，而is的缺省就会造成歧义，酱紫
我也同意这样分析
经过再三观察之后,偶发现,怎么能选C呢.agree that...but that...逻辑意思是同意...而不同意...
但是原文的more research was needed for ...是在agree范围之内的.就矛盾了.
但是怎么看B也错误太多.
朋友们帮忙啊.
是,我没记得清楚.这里是不同主语的比较,不补出系动词是会有歧义.
这题选C应该不会有歧义。
因为for heart patient什么的。。。如果than后面一定要制造歧义。应该是补 than for xxx itself
for... than for...
顾队,关键是C那个that,你不觉得歧义了?
嗯。 agree that ... but that
说明同意XXX，但同意XXX。应该是agree的内容构成了转折。
嗯。 agree that ... but that
说明同意XXX，但同意XXX。应该是agree的内容构成了转折。
是:说明同意XXX，而不同意XXX吧.
这才是"agree的内容构成了转折"呀.
偶已经闷掉了.
不是吧。。。如果是这样的话就是 agree that... but not that
//另外，失败不可怕，呵呵，人生毕竟败多胜少
Cited from :http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C07EEDF1038F93AA25750C0A961958260&sec=health&pagewanted=print
Dr. Robert Siegel of Cedars Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles, who has also studied ultrasound in blocked arteries, said that Dr. Rosenschein's study was extremely important but that more research was needed to determine whether ultrasound followed by balloon angioplasty is any better for heart attack patients than the balloon procedure by itself.
So the answer should be C
虽然有原文，还是倾向选B
agree that...but that..的结构怎么看都觉得awful，而且句意不好理解，更重要的是原文said that but that和agree有很大不同
B相对于更加清晰agree that A do B but C do D
此外，助动词is不能省略，否则有比较宾语之嫌疑。
对楼上的观点不是很认同
said that...but that...和agree that...but that...在本质上并无太大区别，后面的that都是做said/agreed的宾语
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important, but more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is the balloon procedure by itself.
如果選B是不是該在but前加上comma
比較可以免除run-on sentence之嫌
支持C 等待有力的解答....
I think it is D, B is obiously wrong.
C is the best
og上不是有例子的吗？引导两个宾语从句的话，后面一个that是肯定不能省略的，否则构成run-on结构。
Cited from :http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C07EEDF1038F93AA25750C0A961958260&sec=health&pagewanted=print
Dr. Robert Siegel of Cedars Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles, who has also studied ultrasound in blocked arteries, said that Dr. Rosenschein's study was extremely important but that more research was needed to determine whether ultrasound followed by balloon angioplasty is any better for heart attack patients than the balloon procedure by itself.
So the answer should be C
厉害
不得不认了….
Choice C 一切完美, 就是差在那SC 爱考的比较谓语补出, 哀!!~~~~
雖然答案已揭曉, 可是but一般當連詞用, 應是but+S+V.但是這裡but後面只接一個that子句,並沒謂語阿！難道是最新英語用法嗎？
…agreed that the study …was… but that more research was … -->這裡變成but that..就結束了？？
天啊。。。。
顶
support C
C那里看都好，只差在 but that 意思好像不太对
1.后来想想，若要表示 研究人员同意某某事，不同意某某事，应该要这样表达
agreed that .... but not that.....
2. 本句里的 but that ，我查了longman，but有强调之意
but: used to emphasize a word or statement
因此..agree that 事件一 but that事件二，事件一和二，就不会有逻辑不合的现像
C is impeccable.
open to discuss
that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
为什么是IS？
that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
为什么是IS？
感觉逻辑意思时应该时同意。。。，更同意。。。所以B不正确，也觉得but前加个comma要好些，
但真正的语法错误没看出来，
请哪位指点下阿！
whether or not 是肯定错误的说法了，因为不简洁，
所以支持C
厉害
cool, I chose C
看样子每道题的补出问题都不一样啊,真是郁闷类~~~~~
这题还是支持C的
A和C的意思完全不一样.
A是说 sb agree that (study was important but more research was needed...),这种情况下but应该改为and才对.
C是说 sb agree (that study was important) but (that more research was needed...), 是agree x but y句型.
如果A中改为了and,那么语法正确,但意思为"sb同意more research was needed",
C的意思是"sb不同意more research was needed".
所以,无论从语法还是从语意上讲,都是C正确.
毫无疑问，这题是C.
B有一个致命硬伤，要是用B，句子就有两种理解：1）AGREE THAT 后面那整段是一个句子，都是RESEARCHER同意的内容。2）AGREE THAT the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important (到这里为止，是RESEARCHER同意的内容。) BUT…………后面是另外一个句子，不属于RESEARCHER同意的内容，是写这句的AUTHOR的意见。
C刚好弥补了这个缺陷：AGREE THAT BUT THAT 清晰明了，整句都是RESEARCHER 的意见。
首先，
A. was or was not 罗嗦
B. whether or not 罗嗦
C. determine whether 语义重复
D. 正确
E. is or is not 罗嗦
其次，
balloon angioplasty应该由人来precede，而不是用ultrasound来precede，所以应该是precede with而不是precede by，所以相比A, D略优于B, C, E
再次，
更多的研究被需要应该是这些researcher agreed的对象，所以应该作为agree的宾语用and并列，所以应该加that，所以相比B, C, D略优于A, B
综合以上，
选D.
A,后面but的内容是一个完整的从句,要么but前面加逗号,和前面1句完全平行,要么but后面加that,构成agree的内容之一. 且A中,was or not was罗嗦.前面用个whether就搞定了
B,关于逗号或者that的问题与A一样, whether or not罗嗦.
所以CDE里选.
E, is or not is排除
D,和C的意思不一样.少个whether意思不一样. D是基本确定了,只是进一步证明之.而 C用 whether是find out结果的意思,结果是什么,说话的时候还是不知道的.
C至于补出动词,不是问题,因为这个比较里面没有用代词,而是直接用的原来的名词,其次这个名词后面有by itself介词短语定位.意思清楚的前提下,补出动词只是锦上添花,不是必须.
顶了看
我觉得这个题选Ｂ啊
首先划线外提示
balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound
因该用by.排除了AD。
然后
后面的比较部分因该补出前面一样的动词 is不然会引起歧义。原文意思是是不是B被超声波驱动的是不是比B被它自己驱动的对心脏病人要好。所以排除了ACD。这样只有B可以。虽然用了whether or not 和for doing.但都是有效性错误啊！！
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