ChaseDream
标题: 再问885-18-7 [打印本页]
作者: gemj 时间: 2003-9-28 09:46
标题: 再问885-18-7
7. Although the coordination of monetary policy can help facilitate the orderly financing of existing imbalances, it is unlikely that its effect on their size is significant in the absence of an appropriate fiscal adjustment.
(A) it is unlikely that its effect on their size is significant
(B) it is unlikely that the size of their effect would be significant
(C) affecting their sizes are not likely to be significant
(D) the significance of their effect on its size is unlikely
(E) its effect on their size is not likely to be significant
答案：E
前人在解释A不对时说其中的IT与ITS的指代不一致，但是ETS明显允许在同一个句子里同一代词的主格与物主形式指代不同的对象。
见下面的例子：
230. In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vintners have cut prices; their wines have been priced to sell, and they are.
(A) have been priced to sell, and they are
(B) are priced to sell, and they have
(C) are priced to sell, and they do
(D) are being priced to sell, and have
(E) had been priced to sell, and they have
ANSWER：C
“In general,” they reported, “the ability of the compounds to compete at the receptors correlates with their ability to stimulate locomotion in the mouse; i.e., the higher their capacity to bind at the receptors, the higher their ability to stimulate locomotion.”
上面二例中，their与they指代的并非同一东东。
下例中，蓝色的IT (legislature)与ITS (majority)所指并非同一东东。
When an individual or a party is wronged in the United States, to whom can he apply for redress? If to the public opinion, public opinion constitutes the majority; if to the legislature, it represents the majority and implicitly obeys its injunctions; if to the executive power, it is appointed by the majority and remains a passive tool in its hands; the public troops consist of the majority under arms; the jury is the majority invested with the right of hearing judicial cases, and in certain states even the judges are elected by the majority.
现在的问题是：如果不是因为IT的缘故，是什么原因导致不选A呢？
一个可能的原因是A虽然不算错，但存在EFFECTIVENESS的问题。
还有别的解释吗？
[此贴子已经被作者于2003-9-28 10:07:53编辑过]
作者: mzyzhu 时间: 2003-9-28 16:20
个人意见。说得不对，别扔西瓜皮。
It is unlikely that中的it是形势主语，这在ETS的语法中是可以和句子中的其他it表达不同意思的，就像我举的那个OG60的例子。
A和E的主要区别在what is unlikely. A说its effect on their size is significant in the absence of an appropriate fiscal adjustment.是不可能的。E说its effect on their size is not likely to be significant in the absence of an appropriate fiscal adjustment. 前面强调的是整个事实的不可能，而后句强调的时在缺乏适当的财政政策的时候，货币政策的作用不那么大。
所以同意你的观点：后者在effective上要好于前者。
230. Their wines have been priced to sell, and they do (sell their wines).原句补出了助动词，ETS补出了谓语sell,我把宾语their wines也补出来了。如同意，they的指带没有问题。
如果they 非要指带wines.个人认为应该用they have.
作者: remeo 时间: 2003-9-28 17:00
标题: 请教:发表文章怎么设置自己的签名啊?不好意思,新手上路
楼上2位果然厉害！也解决了困惑我的一个难题，可是能否劳烦你们再帮我看看这2 个问题：
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=23&ID=16851
先谢过了！
作者: mzyzhu 时间: 2003-9-28 17:07
in the 1980's the rate of increase of the minority population of the US was nearly ((twice as fast as)) the 1970's.
b)twice as fast as it was in
c)twice what it was in
答案选c，请问为什么不选b??
LZM的说法可以借鉴，书不在身边，无法引用。好像是我们可以说twice as much as, twice as many as, 但是不能用在速度上，twice as fast as.
作者: remeo 时间: 2003-9-28 17:08
39. For members of the seventeenth-century Ashanti nation in Africa, animal-hide shields with wooden frames were essential items of military equipment, a method to protect warriors against enemy arrows and spears.
(A) a method to protect
(B) as a method protecting
(C) protecting
(D) as a protection of
(E) to protect
Choice C is best because the participle protecting begins a phrase that explains what the shields did. Choices A and B awkwardly use the singular word method to refer to items of military equipment rather than to the use of such items. Also, a method of protecting would be more idiomatic than a method to protect in A or a method protecting in B. In B and D, as is incorrect; also, a protection in D has no noun for which it can logically substitute. Choice E is incomplete; used to protect would have been acceptable.
还有请看这道题A为什么不对，用一个概括性名词method做同位语这应该是ets的偏好所在。 Choices A and B awkwardly use the singular word method to refer to items of military equipment rather than to the use of such items.这句解释我看得也不是很懂，ets在此认为method是做解释性的同位语，而不是概括性的，为什么？
如此题：
During and immediately after California gold rush,the way for a merchant to generate the most profit was to move a limited amount of scarce goods to San Francisco as quickly as possible ,rather than ((to carry larger loads more slowlyk,determining)).......
b)to carry larger loads more slowly ,a stituation that determined
stituation就是概括性名词做同位语。
请2位解答一下，谢谢！
作者: mzyzhu 时间: 2003-9-28 17:20
首先ETS说，the animal hide and shield with wooden frame可以是一个item, 一个equipment,或者一个instrument, 单不是一个method.
其次，就算是后面的几个正确用法，ETS还认为不对。因为从逻辑上东东本身是不能提供保护的，只有using such kind of equipemnts才能保护战士。
第二题能否把原题清楚完整的贴出来，还有正确答案。
个人意见，仅供参考
作者: PopularKing 时间: 2003-9-28 17:30
以下是引用mzyzhu在2003-9-28 16:20:00的发言：
230. Their wines have been priced to sell, and they do (sell their wines).原句补出了助动词，ETS补出了谓语sell,我把宾语their wines也补出来了。如同意，they的指带没有问题。
如果they 非要指带wines.个人认为应该用they have.
Their wines have been priced to sell, and they do sell.
I think "they" should refer to wines.
"Their wines do sell" means 他们的酒(的确)卖的不错。
作者: mzyzhu 时间: 2003-9-28 17:35
7楼主，假设wines do sell这一主动在语法上是正确的，又如何理解逗号前的那举被动，wines have been priced to sell?
作者: popularking 时间: 2003-9-28 17:40
something be priced to sell 意思是“价格合理”。
作者: remeo 时间: 2003-9-28 17:40
以下是引用mzyzhu在2003-9-28 17:20:00的发言：
首先ETS说，the animal hide and shield with wooden frame可以是一个item, 一个equipment,或者一个instrument, 单不是一个method.
其次，就算是后面的几个正确用法，ETS还认为不对。因为从逻辑上东东本身是不能提供保护的，只有using such kind of equipemnts才能保护战士。
第二题能否把原题清楚完整的贴出来，还有正确答案。
个人意见，仅供参考
39. For members of the seventeenth-century Ashanti nation in Africa, animal-hide shields with wooden frames were essential items of military equipment, a method to protect warriors against enemy arrows and spears.
(A) a method to protect
(B) as a method protecting
(C) protecting
(D) as a protection of
(E) to protect
Choice C is best because the participle protecting begins a phrase that explains what the shields did. Choices A and B awkwardly use the singular word method to refer to items of military equipment rather than to the use of such items. Also, a method of protecting would be more idiomatic than a method to protect in A or a method protecting in B. In B and D, as is incorrect; also, a protection in D has no noun for which it can logically substitute. Choice E is incomplete; used to protect would have been acceptable.
还有请看这道题A为什么不对，用一个概括性名词method做同位语这应该是ets的偏好所在。 Choices A and B awkwardly use the singular word method to refer to items of military equipment rather than to the use of such items.这句解释我看得也不是很懂，ets在此认为method是做解释性的同位语，而不是概括性的，为什么？
如此题：
During and immediately after California gold rush,the way for a merchant to generate the most profit was to move a limited amount of scarce goods to San Francisco as quickly as possible ,rather than ((to carry larger loads more slowlyk,determining))
the design of the clipper ship.
b)to carry larger loads more slowly ,a stituation that determined
此题答案是b)
stituation不就是概括性名词做同位语吗？
而我认为39题也一样，method就是用来概括animal-hide shields with wooden frames were essential items of military equipment的。正如stituation概括During and immediately after California gold rush,the way for a merchant to generate the most profit was to move a limited amount of scarce goods to San Francisco as quickly as possible ,rather than to carry larger loads more slowly一样，不是吗？
作者: remeo 时间: 2003-9-28 17:43
以下是引用popularking在2003-9-28 17:40:00的发言：
something be priced to sell 意思是“价格合理”。
你的理解也有些偏差，此句的完整意思应该是
他们（酒商）的酒被公开定价销售，而且他们（酒）很有销路。
作者: mzyzhu 时间: 2003-9-28 17:48
以下是引用popularking在2003-9-28 17:40:00的发言：
something be priced to sell 意思是“价格合理”。
能否在一两个例子something is priced to sell.我在字典上没查到。
作者: PopularKing 时间: 2003-9-28 18:04
标题: 请问GMAT可不可以查作文分的
以下是引用mzyzhu在2003-9-28 17:48:00的发言：
能否在一两个例子something is priced to sell.我在字典上没查到。
老美的习惯用语，也就是“很便宜”的意思。
http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/961201.asp?0bl=-0&cp1=1
http://denver.craigslist.org/car/16685229.html
http://seattle.craigslist.org/rfs/14484146.html
http://chicago.craigslist.org/sys/16477187.html
作者: gemj 时间: 2003-9-28 18:06
以下是引用remeo在2003-9-28 17:08:00的发言：
39. For members of the seventeenth-century Ashanti nation in Africa, animal-hide shields with wooden frames were essential items of military equipment, a method to protect warriors against enemy arrows and spears.
(A) a method to protect
(B) as a method protecting
(C) protecting
(D) as a protection of
(E) to protect
还有请看这道题A为什么不对，用一个概括性名词method做同位语这应该是ets的偏好所在。 Choices A and B awkwardly use the singular word method to refer to items of military equipment rather than to the use of such items.这句解释我看得也不是很懂，ets在此认为method是做解释性的同位语，而不是概括性的，为什么？
如果用概括性名词method做同位语，那么，前面应该要有一件事情可以概括为method。本题中没有，前面只是说：
animal-hide shields (with wooden frames) were essential items of military equipment
你怎么能说这是一种method呢？
同意mzyzhu的论述：
以下是引用mzyzhu在2003-9-28 17:20:00的发言：
首先ETS说，the animal hide and shield with wooden frame可以是一个item, 一个equipment,或者一个instrument, 单不是一个method.
其次，就算是后面的几个正确用法，ETS还认为不对。因为从逻辑上东东本身是不能提供保护的，只有using such kind of equipemnts才能保护战士。
[此贴子已经被作者于2003-9-28 18:08:21编辑过]
作者: mzyzhu 时间: 2003-9-28 18:11
10楼主，第二道gold rush拿到好像不是真题。而且你的提干出至少有一个打印错误slowlyk，所以我希望你能源题记5 个答案都打上。
关于OG的那题，首先我们不能说，应为某题用了同位语，所以这题用同位语也对。什么题用什么方式能够更加完整的表达意思是因题而异的。
首先说同位语A.按照ETS的逻辑，我也同意，虽然再考试是不可能想到这一点，在这一题里，method 根本无法指带the animal hide and the wooden frame.
即便是用了instruments这一ETS认可的同位语，他跟C相比，还是有差距.C的用法。句子,V+ing修饰句子忠德主语或者谓语。在该句就清晰的连接了the aminal hide and ...frame是用来proctecting 武士。你在体会一下。
作者: remeo 时间: 2003-9-28 18:15
谢谢gemj和mzyzhu!
作者: mzyzhu 时间: 2003-9-28 18:27
标题: about master of finance
谢谢了， 又学了一个用法。
但是ETS的语法中，我们说something is sold.
13. In June of 1987, The Bridge of Trinquetaille, Vincent van Gogh’s view of an iron bridge over the Rhone sold for $20.2 million and it was the second highest price ever paid for a painting at auction.
(A) Rhone sold for $20.2 million and it was
(B) Rhone, which sold for $20.2 million, was
(C) Rhone, was sold for $20.2 million,
(D) Rhone was sold for $20.2 million, being
(E) Rhone, sold for $20.2 million, and was
key c
During the first nine months of 1979, textbook publishers incurred substantial costs for creating products that, due to a decline in public funding for instructional material, never were sold.
(A) funding for instructional material, never were
(B) funding for instructional material, never was
(C) funding, the instructional material, was never
(D) funding for instructional material, the products were never
(E) funding, they were never
key A
作者: mianmian 时间: 2004-7-13 05:11
Among the more effective kinds of publicity that publishers can get for a new book is to have excerpts of it published in a high-circulation magazine soon before the book is published. The benefits of such excerption include not only a sure increase in sales but also a fee paid by the magazine to the book’s publisher.
Which of the following conclusions is best supported by the information above?
(A) The number of people for whom seeing an excerpt of a book in a magazine provides an adequate substitute for reading the whole book is smaller than the number for whom the excerpt stimulates a desire to read the book.
(B) Because the financial advantage of excerpting a new book in a magazine usually accrues to the book’s publisher, magazine editors are unwilling to publish excerpts from new books.
(C) In calculating the total number of copies that a book has sold, publishers include sales of copies of magazines that featured an excerpt of the book.
(D) The effectiveness of having excerpts of a book published in a magazine, measured in terms of increased sales of a book, is proportional to the circulation of the magazine in which the excerpts are published.
(E) Books that are suitable for excerpting in high-circulation magazines sell more copies than books that are not suitable for excerpting. publication
sell在这里有一种“达到某种销量”的意思，比如字典上有一句话：This record has sold over a million copies. 这里就不用be sold。
所以如果在卖葡萄酒那道题中，they是指葡萄酒的话（虽然我还是拿不准到底they 指什么），是可用do sell 的。
作者: cranberry 时间: 2004-8-7 13:08
还是比较费解，大家讨论了半天，好像都是在说自己的话，OG上那道卖酒的题目确实是两个代词指代的不一致，所以不禁对同一句子中同一代词必须指代同样的事情的金科玉律产生了怀疑。
作者: leeon 时间: 2004-8-7 13:23
卖酒的那道题还是不要在想的太深了，OG的解释版本都不一致。这道题本身值得商榷。
作者: hpp920 时间: 2004-11-3 06:45
大家还是回到原来的话题吧, 到底要不要一致?
作者: everann 时间: 2006-10-22 12:40
在同一个phrase里的指代是要一致的吧。
[此贴子已经被作者于2006-10-22 14:33:03编辑过]
| 欢迎光临 ChaseDream (https://forum.chasedream.com/) |
Powered by Discuz! X3.3 |