I am a civil&construction engineer, working in USA. It has been six years since I came from China, and I apply to several top B-schools this year, wanting to switch career to project finance or MC post MBA and get back to China. SO far I Got in at Darden and Cornell, however, neither school is not my top choice, (dinged by Wharton, Chicago and Columbia),
I may end up with not going either school but coming back to China for a local MBA, say CEIBS or CKGSB, with less cost and stronger network. Am I crazy?? you can say it...but after working and living in US for six years, I feel that what I need is not an international perspecitve, I do need to know more about China.
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个人觉得你没有crazy
如果拿不到排名好的美国学校回国读一流的B-school也未必不是好事。
why not Hong Kong?
China perhaps does not own the institutional environment to use project financing technique to finance large scale civil projects.To some extent the dometstic capital market and project finance business do not match.
Try HK business school.
zxsteven - How come you tried to convince me to get MBA here in the states but now you are thinking of going back? Hehe...just kidding.
I guess it's a personal choice. Think it over before you move ahead though. Good luck!
zxsteven - How come you tried to convince me to get MBA here in the states but now you are thinking of going back? Hehe...just kidding.
I guess it's a personal choice. Think it over before you move ahead though. Good luck!
My case is different from yours, since you have green card. I do not have anything to lose if I choose to come back.
In addition, if you apply you may get in a top 7 school, which means a great deal; I already tried but failed to get in, in my eyes, CEIBS is better than a non-magic-7 school for a Chinese.
如果遇到同样情况，我会毫不犹豫选择 Cornell
大陆内地的 MBA？唉。。
如果遇到同样情况，我会毫不犹豫选择 Cornell
大陆内地的 MBA？唉。。
我也是，不过个人情况不同啥，lz还是得自己考虑，其实你自己早就有了主意，来这只不过想获得点支持，呵呵。
What is your expectation to Chinese business schools? Are you sure those schools really meet your need? If you think so, just do it. My personal suggestion is that try to contact their alumni who have familiar background as you. Don't forget to ask their career before and after the study. Also you can ask people who worked in China and U.S.
Your case is different from others. I don't think people who only worked in mainland can give you a wonderful suggestion.
回国的心情我能理解，在国外工作和生活了一段时间以后，很多人还是想回国发展的。就有如围城。
My case is different from yours, since you have green card. I do not have anything to lose if I choose to come back.
In addition, if you apply you may get in a top 7 school, which means a great deal; I already tried but failed to get in, in my eyes, CEIBS is better than a non-magic-7 school for a Chinese.
I would suggest you talk to as many local top MBAs as you can and get their opinions, especially from those who had similar background as yours. Don't forget to share info with me if you do.
I do not want to show off here, and I do not want compare CEIBS with them, what I want is to do an MBA in China and know more about China, but if people in CEIBS all act like you, I would change my mind..
I do not want to show off here, and I do not want compare CEIBS with them, what I want is to do an MBA in China and know more about China, but if people in CEIBS all act like you, I would change my mind..
LZ, why not schools in HK?
ppl without internatioanl working/living experience might not have the same considerations as you.
To me, before starting my applications, I did have the simliar question: apply US schools or not. However, based on the goal of developing my career in China, I believe the answer is clear!
B-schools in China/HK, of course, will bring you networking chances that did last long, the crucial reason why I made up my mind apply 5 schools within China and HK.
In the last, I choose school in HK, gaining me another international living/studying experience, and my classmates will come all over the world.
I do not want to show off here, and I do not want compare CEIBS with them, what I want is to do an MBA in China and know more about China, but if people in CEIBS all act like you, I would change my mind..
BTW, how do u know he is frm CEIBS?
你不疯狂. 应当报中欧. FT排名: 中欧21, Darden 24, Cornell, 36. 中欧最好. 你若不报中欧, 我会认为你脑子有毛病.但是还要看你能不能被中欧录取.假如中欧去不了,可以考虑Darden.你若一定要回中国, 但中欧又进不了,就报长江吧,他们一定会要你的.长江比中欧要差好几个数量级呢!
你不疯狂. 应当报中欧. FT排名: 中欧21, Darden 24, Cornell, 36. 中欧最好. 你若不报中欧, 我会认为你脑子有毛病.但是还要看你能不能被中欧录取.假如中欧去不了,可以考虑Darden.你若一定要回中国, 但中欧又进不了,就报长江吧,他们一定会要你的.长江比中欧要差好几个数量级呢!
你又在挑衅了, 这样不大气吧,
个人觉得DARDEN/CORNELL与中欧/长江吸引力差不多,中欧才办了几年,排名一路窜升,凭中国高速的经济发展,日后在世界经济中日益重要的地位,中国MBA的价值实在有太大的升值空间,斗胆说一句,10年后必会有一家中国商学院跻身全球TOP10之列.
相对来说,美国前10/15学校排名相对固定,大家能爬到这个位置都不是一朝一夕,所以含金量继续上升的可能性不那么大,学费成本又高,所以对象LZ这样海外经验丰富的来说,国内MBA确实是个不错的选择.
个人觉得DARDEN/CORNELL与中欧/长江吸引力差不多,中欧才办了几年,排名一路窜升,凭中国高速的经济发展,日后在世界经济中日益重要的地位,中国MBA的价值实在有太大的升值空间,斗胆说一句,10年后必会有一家中国商学院跻身全球TOP10之列.
相对来说,美国前10/15学校排名相对固定,大家能爬到这个位置都不是一朝一夕,所以含金量继续上升的可能性不那么大,学费成本又高,所以对象LZ这样海外经验丰富的来说,国内MBA确实是个不错的选择.
Frankly speaking, I never value the FT rankings very much, it will take quite while for CEIBS to become a real top 20 school,
But I like CEIBS's location, my country.....maybe I miss China too much after six years in a boring country.
以下是引用jkmbe在2006-3-29 9:45:00的发言：
中国MBA的价值实在有太大的升值空间,斗胆说一句,10年后必会有一家中国商学院跻身全球TOP10之列.
不敢苟同这个观点 现在中国大企业仍迷信美国牛校MBA
中国MBA学校与国外商学院比仍有相当差距，不是一朝一昔可以追上。 
咱们中国内地的MBA项目用三十年左右的时间还是有可能达到美国排名前20名学校的现有水平的。不过到那时敌人是不是又进步了呢？
办教育不是卖煎饼，不能只靠炒作就赶英超美。尤其是炒作得连自己都相信水平已经进入世界前20名了，那才叫搞笑呢！
Frankly speaking, I never value the FT rankings very much, it will take quite while for CEIBS to become a real top 20 school,
But I like CEIBS's location, my country.....maybe I miss China too much after six years in a boring country.
After the graduation, I think you will miss the oversea life, especially when you work in China.
FT ranking is just from a magazine company. If FT adjusts ranking scales, something will change.
Anyway if you really want to study in China in a western way, CEIBS is the best choice.
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