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标题: [求助] 再问og 261 谢谢！：） [打印本页]

作者: juliet01192000 时间: 2006-3-18 14:13
标题: [求助] 再问og 261 谢谢！：）

看了1个小时，前人的n多链接，都没讨论清楚，不明白呀，另起一贴吧，省得大家也看那么长时间！

261. Being a United States citizen since 1988 and born in Calcutta in 1940, author Bharati Mukherjee has lived in England and Canada, and first came to the United States in 1961 to study at the Iowa Writers’ Workshop.

(A) Being a United States citizen since 1988 and born in Calcutta in 1940, author Bharati Mukherjee has

(B) Having been a United States citizen since 1988, she was born in Calcutta in 1940; author Bharati Mukherjee

(D) Being born in Calcutta in 1940 and having been a United States citizen since 1988, author Bharati Mukherjee（C）

(E) Having been born in Calcutta in 1940 and being a United States citizen since 1988, author Bharati Mukherjee

ans: c

我的问题：

1 and结构不平行，是指什么？

看到一位nn说，and前后平行结构可以不考虑时态，即and前后时态不一致也行。此题就是一个证明：author Bharati Mukherjee has lived in England and Canada, and first came to the United States in 1961 to study at the Iowa Writers’ Workshop.

2 在og259中，一位nn说：A do and do 对，

A do, and do错。

可是上面那句话不就是一个可以这样用的例子吗？

是不是说如果两个do时态一致，则A do, and do错。

如果两个do时态不一致，则A do, and do对。？

3 想再次确定一下，此题干事件发生的顺序是不是这样的：

（1）出生

（2）到美国学习

（3）成为美国国民

（4）现在一直在英国，加拿大居住。

这是我复习og以来看的最不明白的题，大家帮帮忙，解释一下吧!

nn快出现吧，语法区的nn都躲到哪里去了？：）

作者: yaoyao99 时间: 2006-3-19 05:35
1. There is no parallelism in 'being and born'.
2. The AND in A do x and do y indicates parallelism between x and y.  The AND in A did x, and (A) now does y, functions as a conjunction word.  They are functionally different ANDs.
3. The ordering should be 1, 4, 2, 3.  That's why 1 uses the past tense,
indicating event that took place in the past, and is now over.  4, is
past perfect because it's the earlier past event (happened before 2).
2 is past tense, following the reasoning of 1.

作者: juliet01192000 时间: 2006-3-19 16:48

首先谢谢yaoyao99的耐心解答！谢谢你！：）

以下是引用yaoyao99在2006-3-19 5:35:00的发言：
1. There is no parallelism in 'being and born'.

我其实是想问既然and 左右时态不同还是可以平行的，那么到底是怎样情况才算and左右结构不平行。不过我还是在去查查精华帖吧，应该有关于这方面的总结！

2. The AND in A do x and do y indicates parallelism between x and y. The AND in A did x, and (A) now does y, functions as a conjunction word. They are functionally different ANDs.

还能再解释清楚点吗？疑惑中。。。

3. The ordering should be 1, 4, 2, 3. That's why 1 uses the past tense,
indicating event that took place in the past, and is now over. 4, is
past perfect because it's the earlier past event (happened before 2).
2 is past tense, following the reasoning of 1.

郁闷呀，还是不太明白。。。

为什么就是弄不明白这道题呢？我愤了。。。

作者: 清清小蚂蚁 时间: 2006-3-20 01:14

含分号题目的规律

五个选项中如果有三个用逗号连接两个句子，有两个用分号，并且有分号的一个选项后面一个句子不完整，另一个用分号的选项就是正确答案

该题BC有分号，B的句子不完整，所以选C

作者: yaoyao99 时间: 2006-3-20 06:39
2. The first AND in "I cleaned the room and took out the trash" indicates two actions in parallel. You can think of the AND in that sentence as a connector between the two actions. The second AND in "I wanted to see the world with her, and now I hardly remember her name" contrasts the two clauses. You can think of this AND as a connector between the two states.

3. Past perfect tense is used for an event (4) that happened before another past event (2). That's why 4 is in past tense and 2 is in past perfect.

作者: juliet01192000 时间: 2006-3-20 10:21

以下是引用清清小蚂蚁在2006-3-20 1:14:00的发言：

含分号题目的规律

五个选项中如果有三个用逗号连接两个句子，有两个用分号，并且有分号的一个选项后面一个句子不完整，另一个用分号的选项就是正确答案

该题BC有分号，B的句子不完整，所以选C

蚂蚁mm好细心，我还真没注意到有分号！！！

谢谢mm提供的快速排除法，对于到底在什么时候使用分号，不只mm有什么高见？：）

作者: juliet01192000 时间: 2006-3-20 10:40

以下是引用yaoyao99在2006-3-20 6:39:00的发言：
2. The first AND in "I cleaned the room and took out the trash" indicates two actions in parallel. You can think of the AND in that sentence as a connector between the two actions. The second AND in "I wanted to see the world with her, and now I hardly remember her name" contrasts the two clauses. You can think of this AND as a connector between the two states.

对于你对的解释我表示同意，这个问题我现在算是初步明白了。

我的总结如下：

A do and do. 对

A do, and B do.对

A do1, do2..... , and doN. 对

特别注意：A do1, and do2. 对（无论do1,do2时态是否一致！！！）

例子：时态一致og264, 时态不一致og 261.

一起分享共同进步！！！open to discuss

3. Past perfect tense is used for an event (4) that happened before another past event (2). That's why 4 is in past tense and 2 is in past perfect.

先同意一下中文意思：Past perfect tense 过去完成（had done） perfect tense 现在完成(have done)

Born in LACE>CalcuttaLACE> in 1940, author Bharati Mukherjee became a LACE>United StatesLACE> citizen in 1988; she has lived in LACE>EnglandLACE> and LACE>CanadaLACE>, and first came to the LACE>United StatesLACE> in 1961 to study at the Iowa Writers’ Workshop.

正确答案里没出现过过完呀？mm是不是看错了？

我们继续讨论！

thanks yaoyao mm again!

作者: yaoyao99 时间: 2006-3-20 10:48
Ahaha, senior moment. Apologies! Ok, past perfect is "had lived" and never appeared here. I should have said present perfect (has lived) and it is used not because 4 happened before 2 (it's not clear), but because the event (lived in England and Canada) occured at an unspecified time in the past.

Semicolon is used to combine two complete sentences.

作者: juliet01192000 时间: 2006-3-20 12:07

没关系拉，谁都可能一时写错的：）

谢谢遥遥ｍｍ的提醒！

我感到最好的时间顺序是1,2,3; 我们不用把４也硬插到这个排序中，因为正如ｍｍ所说，他住在英国和加拿大的起始时间我们是不确定的。不过通过ｈａｓ　ｌｉｖｅｄ我们能知道他现在还住在英国和加拿大。

至于分号地用法，我的问题其实是：两句话之间能用句号，为什么要用分号？：）

作者: yaoyao99 时间: 2006-3-20 12:24
Slightly different. We don't know when she lived in Canada and England but we do know that happened in the past, and she no longer lives in England or Canada. Has done means it happened at an unspecified time in the past, or it happen a number of times in the past and may happen again in the future.

You can't use comma because the two sentences are complete sentences. For example, you can't say "I ate this, he ate that." You have to either say "I ate this, and he hate that." or "I ate this; he ate that."

作者: juliet01192000 时间: 2006-3-20 13:22

ｔｈａｎｋｓ　ｙａｏｙａｏ　ｍｍ！：）

以下是引用yaoyao99在2006-3-20 12:24:00的发言：
Slightly different. We don't know when she lived in Canada and England but we do know that happened in the past, and she no longer lives in England or Canada. Has done means it happened at an unspecified time in the past, or it happen a number of times in the past and may happen again in the future.

在一本权威语法高考书上：现在完成表示一个动作发生在过去持续到现在并可能继续持续下去。

ｍｍ说的是一种持续的情况。请看下面的例句：

ｈｅ　ｈａｓ　ｌｉｖｅｄ　ｔｈｅｒｅ　ｆｏｒ　１０　ｙｅａｒｓ．

当然，这表示他已经在那里连续（ｌｉｖｅ为可持续动作）住了１０年了。这句还包含它可能继续住在那里的含义。ｏｐｅｎ　ｔｏ　ｄｉｓｃｕｓｓ：）

You can't use comma because the two sentences are complete sentences. For example, you can't say "I ate this, he ate that." You have to either say "I ate this, and he hate that." or "I ate this; he ate that."

哦，ｙａｏｙａｏ　ｍｍ理解错我的意思了。我的问题是句号“。”，不是逗号“，”：）

我问的意思是明明可以用I ate this。 he ate that。

为什么一定要说I ate this； he ate that。我觉得原句用分号是不必要的：）

ｏｐｅｎ　ｔｏ　ｄｉｓｃｕｓｓ：）

作者: juliet01192000 时间: 2006-3-20 13:26