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标题: 2 BF 猜想 [打印本页]
作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-21 23:02
标题: 2 BF 猜想
1. "a conclusion that must be drawn from this argument."和"a conclusion that can be drawn only from the ..." 基本上就是错的吧?
2. 如果INFERENCE真是不可道的(隐含的),那BF中的INFERENCE选项必错,因为它已经被道了!
any comments?
作者: fyhllj 时间: 2003-9-22 02:56
以下是引用sbbi在2003-9-21 23:02:00的发言：
2. 如果INFERENCE真是不可道的(隐含的),那BF中的INFERENCE选项必错,因为它已经被道了!
any comments?
我想你可能是混淆了。BF是将题目中几乎所用的信息都提供给你。包括隐含的。此时让你来之处，某一部分在题目中的作用。如果某一部分为inference，则其必定在其他部分的论述中隐含此项内容。
“那BF中的INFERENCE选项必错,因为它已经被道了!“的这种shuo法，应是犯了倒果为因的错误。
If I am wrong, correct me please.
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作者: fyhllj 时间: 2003-9-22 02:57
以下是引用sbbi在2003-9-21 23:02:00的发言：
1. "a conclusion that must be drawn from this argument."和"a conclusion that can be drawn only from the ..." 基本上就是错的吧?
不是很明白你的问题。能否说明的再详细些
谢谢
作者: fyhllj 时间: 2003-9-22 06:22
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=24&id=15865&star=1#109188
看看此题是否对inference 和 conclusion的感觉会好一些。
作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-22 08:02
比如第一题
(B) The first is a fact that argument relies on and the second is a conclusion that must be drawn from this argument.
第五题
(E) The first is a final evidence in support of the argument; the second is a conclusion that can be drawn only from the first.
以下是引用fyhllj在2003-9-22 2:57:00的发言：
不是很明白你的问题。能否说明的再详细些
谢谢
作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-22 08:23
请举个BF的例子讲讲INFERENCE和CONCLUSION的区别.谢谢
作者: fyhllj 时间: 2003-9-22 09:05
四楼的例子如何。
作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-22 09:13
只是不是BF.能用BF的例子讲讲么?
作者: fyhllj 时间: 2003-9-22 09:19
sbbi,你能否帮我找一个吗。谢谢
作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-22 11:26
那是不是说9道BF题里没有INFERECE?
我认为第4题C)是.但好象你的答案是E
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=22&ID=13882&star=2
作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-22 11:27
what is your opnion on it?
以下是引用sbbi在2003-9-22 8:02:00的发言：
比如第一题
(B) The first is a fact that argument relies on and the second is a conclusion that must be drawn from this argument.
第五题
(E) The first is a final evidence in support of the argument; the second is a conclusion that can be drawn only from the first.
作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-22 11:34
第八题,答案是D (MY ANSWER IS B)
可以做例子讲讲么?
首先,结论是什么?(作者的论点是什么?)
以下是引用fyhllj在2003-9-22 9:19:00的发言：
sbbi,你能否帮我找一个吗。谢谢
作者: freegirl 时间: 2003-9-22 12:00
8. The survival of the publishing industry depends upon the existence of a public who will buy the printed word in the form of newspapers, books and magazines. Over the past several years, however, the advance of electronic media, particularly CD-ROMs, online computer services, and the Internet, has made 9information available to the public electronically without the need for printed materials. As the availability of electronic media increases and as it is more easily accessible, the public has less need for printed materials. So the publishing industry is threatened by the advance of the computer information age.
(B) The first is the second-premise that the argument includes; the second is the conclusion that is reasonably drawn form this passage.
(D) The first is the fact that must be true, the second is the inference that can be correctly drawn from this argument.
第一句：The survival of the publishing industry depends upon the existence of a public who will buy the printed word in the form of newspapers, books and magazines. 是一个
ｂａｃｋｇｒｏｕｎｄ or ｃｏｎｔｅｘｔ．
第二句：也就是boldface 第一句是一个ｆａｃｔ
第三句：As the availability of electronic media increases and as it is more easily accessible, the public has less need for printed materials. 是ｐｒｅｍｉｓｅ．
第四句：是文章的结论。
答案我在B/D 中徘徊了好久， 之所以选D:
1. 划线的第一句不是一个论据，因为它去掉也不影响结论。充其量也只是一个事实。
2. B 中的 is reasonably drawn form this passage 是一个肯定的语气， 而实际上我们并不知道是不是还有别的原因削弱这个结论，所以D 的 can be correctly drawn from this argument 更好些。"can be" means not certainly, but potentially good.
请别的朋友说明为什么第四句是 inferrence rather than conclusion.
作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-23 02:21
if 第四句是 inferrence, which one is conclusion then?
作者: oliviading 时间: 2003-9-25 00:05
i think the first one is the conclusion.
作者: 祈晴坊主 时间: 2003-9-25 14:31
既然已经有conclusion了
还推inference干吗？
我发觉我对于这个越搞越糊涂了
作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-26 10:00
fyhllj板主,给我们讲讲呀...快考试了...谢谢!
作者: freegirl 时间: 2003-9-26 10:52
go to the link of : http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=24&ID=15443
and the last page-- #5
作者: fyhllj 时间: 2003-9-26 11:18
sbbi, 我重新对Boldface第4题和第8题及几个术语的再解释
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=24&id=16729&star=1#114109
作者: 二狼神 时间: 2006-4-12 11:17
以下是引用sbbi在2003-9-21 23:02:00的发言：
1. "a conclusion that must be drawn from this argument."和"a conclusion that can be drawn only from the ..." 基本上就是错的吧?
any comments?
不知道有没有JJ出现过反例?
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