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作者: ph12111211 时间: 2006-3-11 15:39
标题: 请教BU，ASU，Rotman哪个好？

收到Offer，难下决心，不知道BU到底怎样？对Boston这个城市非常向往。但是ASU的排名好些。另外，Rotman 和这两个学校比较又如何？

请牛牛们不吝赐教。

作者: funnytiger 时间: 2006-3-12 04:00

Ok, ok, Rotman is in Canada, right? let us put this one off the paper

Next, ASU and BU. location wise, BU is better. service wise, BU is a private school while ASU is second tier public school in the state of Arizona.

Verdict: BU

作者: lyw4u2005 时间: 2006-3-12 04:12
ASU离加州很近，如果毕业后想在加州找份IT行业的工作，应该有点优势；BU地理位置之好当然务容置疑了，尤其是金融和咨询业机会很多，如果意欲从事这方面的工作，BU是首选。
就声望而言，两所学校没什么差别。LZ应该再关注一下学科的排名。My $0.02。

作者: ph12111211 时间: 2006-3-12 05:42
标题: Still in a dilemma...Your suggestions are highly valued

Thanks!

But some people consider Rotman the number one in Canada. Its ranking in Financial Times is 24, while BU ranks at 50.

Does any one know about the Rotman alumni's networks in the States? Is it hard for a Canadian graduates to find a job in the States?

作者: funnytiger 时间: 2006-3-12 05:53

Assuming that you are in China and you have two candidates applying for a position under you.

1. Person A graduated from SiChuan Unviersity.

2. Person B graduated from the No.1 University from Thailand.

I don't mean to be disrespectful. Unless you want to stay in Canada, go to a US school.

作者: ph12111211 时间: 2006-3-12 06:18

En, make lot of sense. Thanks!

作者: ph12111211 时间: 2006-3-12 06:34

如果回国工作呢，哪个好些？

作者: yorkzhong 时间: 2006-3-12 09:10

以下是引用ph12111211在2006-3-12 6:34:00的发言：

如果回国工作呢，哪个好些？

there's no big difference of US 2-tier school and Canada school, in our company, we have both and they are paied same.

作者: blahblah 时间: 2006-3-12 09:14
在美国人看来，大多人会把Toronto看成美国的一个城市吧，因此我想刚才四川和泰国的例子可能不准确。

作者: ph12111211 时间: 2006-3-13 02:19

Thanks for everyone's contributions. I think the key issue here is how American company recruiters evaluate a Canadian MBA degree.

The top Canadian school = the second tier US school?

作者: funnytiger 时间: 2006-3-13 07:58

well, once you can get a job, you are paid by what you can do. my boss has an undergraduate degree, no MBA, he got paid a lot higher than I have.

the problem here is whether you can get hired. that is why I bring up that scenario. Everybody who has lived in US for a while knows how American think about Canadian. I think it is stupid, but it seems to be widely accepted: Canadians are dumb people.

作者: ph12111211 时间: 2006-3-13 10:47

So far, most my friends suggested me to forego Rotman in favor of BU. Given my perference of working in the States after the MBA graduation, BU might be a wise choice. BU offers me a larger scholarship too.

However, I still dont want to drop Rotman, after all its alumni network is powerful in the field of Finance in Canada, which can make valuabe resourse for my future career if I stay in Canada. In addition, Rotman's ranking is much better than BU's based on Financial Times. To be honest, I am confused by the idea that the ranking can be ignored because it's a Canadian school. Top Canadian schools < = 2 tired US schools? What about the ranking?

Please help me sort my thoughts. Like many of others, I am dying to make a sound decision. Thanks!

Happy Birthday to CD!

作者: snowyspring 时间: 2006-3-13 11:35

shoot! Just deleted everything when I were editing. Anyway, my 2 cents. wanna stay in Canada, definitely choose Rotman; wanna work in US, go for BU or any other decent US schools.

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作者: ken_oli 时间: 2006-3-13 23:35

to sum up based on experts'comments here:

1. Try not to compare US and Canadian MBAs since they basically work for two different markets. Or, we say US MBAs stay in US and Canadian MBAs stay in Canada (exception may be the big three in USA). So, we may just ingore the global ranking like FT when we woul like to stay in USA, Canada, or EU. Of course, ranking for each country or region could still be refered.

2. If you go back to China, choose a school with good reputation and network in China, whether this school is Canada (maybe like Ivey, Toronto, ...) or US (say Harvard, Yale, Maryland....). Again, don't do much comparison among schools from different countries, which would be a headache, hehe.

Bricks are welcome.

作者: zdcgy 时间: 2006-3-14 00:15

以下是引用ph12111211在2006-3-13 10:47:00的发言：

Please help me sort my thoughts. Like many of others, I am dying to make a sound decision. Thanks!

Happy Birthday to CD!

Well, it's really a tough decision to make depending on your location preference and career goal. However, the attempt to judge two schools based only on FT is definitely questionable. While top schools are still ranked top in this list, can you believe that ceibs is ahead of darden and cornell? FT is just trying to design a methodology so that UK schools (except lbs) can be ranked higher than they deserve. the ranking of other schools are just by-product to FT.

In your case, if you plan to work in canada, then ut will bring you more prestige. but elsewhere, both are similar in terms of reputation. good luck

作者: ph12111211 时间: 2006-3-14 08:08
Once again, thank all for your kind inputs.

作者: ph12111211 时间: 2006-3-14 08:25

I understand that Rotman would be a safe choice for me if I stay in Canada. But I perfer to work in the States. BU is a riskier option for the chance of a post-MBA job is lower. After all I will be an international candidate in the job market. In the worse scenario, I will be forced to come back to Canada and a BU degree might not as good as an Rotman degree.

Sorry to be such a pain.

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