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标题: 求教:关于LBS、city和LSE的Marster in Finance比较 [打印本页]

作者: xt141    时间: 2006-3-3 13:55
标题: 求教:关于LBS、city和LSE的Marster in Finance比较

背景:国内四大商行6年工作经验,毕业后打算回国工作,跳槽去外资。


请教:如果同时拿到了LBS和city的master in finance的offer,以及LSE MSc accounting and finance的offer,该如何进行选择。


请对上述三所大学了解的大侠不吝赐教,多谢!!


另外,在city和warwick之间应该如何取舍呢?


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作者: fwl43    时间: 2006-3-3 15:08

有钱就读LBS,


LSE绝对比CITY好!


作者: miracle836    时间: 2006-3-3 17:02

不考虑钱的问题的话,毫无疑问是LBS,


个人认为city明显比LBS以及LSE低一个档次


作者: xt141    时间: 2006-3-3 17:46
多谢二位的答复。
作者: 站在水的中央    时间: 2006-3-3 18:49

偶也在做跟xt14同样的比较来着,目前如果读LBS,还需要管HSBC借钱GBP 10k 左右。不过毕业以后一定可以在英国工作,因为偶过去拿的是移民签证,LBS的校友或者过来人们觉得申请HSBC LOAN有戏莫?要是没戏,只有LSE, CITY地干活了


讲老实话,偶不太想去LSE,因为偶组里有同事就是LSE 的金融毕业的,干得活跟我一样,薪水因为资历的原因,拿得还不如我多,让我多少对LSE有点惧怕


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作者: kevinao    时间: 2006-3-4 00:21
Frankly speaking, LBS MiF is comparable to Insead MBA or top 10 MBA in US. It's not comparable to other MiF programs. LBS MiF's starting positions are associates in Ibanks or assets management companies/PE house. Some experienced MiF can even start from VP. Average LBS MiF have 6 years experience, and many of them used to work in top ibanks, assets management or strategic consulting firms.

Most students can get loans from HSBC, but it's not guaranteed. GBP10K is not a big amount. It's possible less than 2 months salary after graduation.

作者: babazi    时间: 2006-3-4 01:18
LBS
作者: zdcgy    时间: 2006-3-4 01:38
以下是引用kevinao在2006-3-4 0:21:00的发言:
Frankly speaking, LBS MiF is comparable to Insead MBA or top 10 MBA in US. It's not comparable to other MiF programs. LBS MiF's starting positions are associates in Ibanks or assets management companies/PE house. Some experienced MiF can even start from VP. Average LBS MiF have 6 years experience, and many of them used to work in top ibanks, assets management or strategic consulting firms.


Most students can get loans from HSBC, but it's not guaranteed. GBP10K is not a big amount. It's possible less than 2 months salary after graduation.

Agree. LBS is way better than any other b-schools in UK, in terms of student quality and placement records. Just take a look at the placement report of each school. Only LBS has such a detailed format and remarkable data that are comparable to US top 10. Other schools just have very limited information which is of little use in judging the placement success. The reason for them to do so is too simple

kevinao, I finally identify who you are, as I worked for that bank too. will contact you and wish you good luck in job-hunting.


作者: xt141    时间: 2006-3-4 09:59
谢谢楼上各位宝贵的意见。再问,如果LBS毕业后回国(北京/上海),一般从事什么样的工作?起始职位如何?平均年薪多少?多谢指教。
作者: 站在水的中央    时间: 2006-3-4 11:34
以下是引用kevinao在2006-3-4 0:21:00的发言:
Frankly speaking, LBS MiF is comparable to Insead MBA or top 10 MBA in US. It's not comparable to other MiF programs. LBS MiF's starting positions are associates in Ibanks or assets management companies/PE house. Some experienced MiF can even start from VP. Average LBS MiF have 6 years experience, and many of them used to work in top ibanks, assets management or strategic consulting firms.


Most students can get loans from HSBC, but it's not guaranteed. GBP10K is not a big amount. It's possible less than 2 months salary after graduation.

谢谢kevinao。


作者: kevinao    时间: 2006-3-4 20:14
xt141, most Chinese MiF work in London or HK after graduation with starting pay similar to LBS average. Some choose to go back to Shanghai /Beijing and mainly joined IB/JV Ibanks/assets management companies or strategic consulting firm. All depends on your own situation. Normally strategic consulting and global ibanks provide global pay. JV financial institutions offer lower pay. There are also many opportunities in industrial companies, but very few MiF selected such companies.
Some MiF work in state owned banks/regulatory institutions if they got scholarship that required them to continue to work in such sectors.

作者: xt141    时间: 2006-3-5 12:18

多谢楼上各位(尤其是kevinao)的宝贵回复。不胜感激!!!


作者: foever    时间: 2006-3-6 13:47
听说大陆申请LBS的贷款比较困难,有这个说法吗?如果有,通常可以批下来多少?
作者: amazingsummer    时间: 2006-3-6 17:09

师兄, 你知道LBS MiF的中国大陆学生,大概有多少比例可以顺利找到London当地的工作吗?
据信,2005年MiF毕业生的entry pay是60K 英镑,如果是中国学生,有这么乐观吗?


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作者: amazingsummer    时间: 2006-3-6 18:11

师兄啊,据说LBS食堂的食物巨贵,请问一份三明治几钱啊?如果一天有两顿都准备在食堂解决,最低消费是多少呢?


作者: kevinao    时间: 2006-3-6 19:08
-lunch: £4 incl main course, salad, cola, tea/coffe. it's better and cheaper than outside restaruant. 三明治 £2
- if you can find an IB job in london, the pay is quite standard. if you find a job in smaller assets/research management, then the pay can be lower, £50-55K. probably chinese mif's starting pay is below LBS average. As far as I know. most students can find a job in london if they want unless they are very specific as to what they want to do (e.g. industry and function). If you think entry into finance industry in London is more important, then just get a job and find opportunity to find a better job later.
HSBC loan: many in my class got the loan, but i heard sometimes mba failed to get the loan.

作者: amazingsummer    时间: 2006-3-6 23:13
以下是引用kevinao在2006-3-6 19:08:00的发言:
-lunch: £4 incl main course, salad, cola, tea/coffe. it's better and cheaper than outside restaruant. 三明治 £2
- if you can find an IB job in london, the pay is quite standard. if you find a job in smaller assets/research management, then the pay can be lower, £50-55K. probably chinese mif's starting pay is below LBS average. As far as I know. most students can find a job in london if they want unless they are very specific as to what they want to do (e.g. industry and function). If you think entry into finance industry in London is more important, then just get a job and find opportunity to find a better job later.

HSBC loan: many in my class got the loan, but i heard sometimes mba failed to get the loan.

谢师兄百忙之中不厌其烦回复! ^_^


作者: 站在水的中央    时间: 2006-3-8 11:43
以下是引用kevinao在2006-3-6 19:08:00的发言:
-lunch: £4 incl main course, salad, cola, tea/coffe. it's better and cheaper than outside restaruant. 三明治 £2

4胖就能吃一顿饭,真的满便宜的说。本来准备自己每天带饭了,想着在外面吃的话怎么着也得10胖左右啊,而且吃得还很一般。谢谢kevinao提供的信息。


作者: icbcbj    时间: 2006-3-8 11:44
你要能坚持天天吃下那样的饭菜,我到是比较佩服你的
作者: 站在水的中央    时间: 2006-3-8 11:51
我好像开始灌水了。那里的饭菜灰常不好吃莫?
作者: amazingsummer    时间: 2006-3-8 20:29
以下是引用站在水的中央在2006-3-8 11:43:00的发言:4胖就能吃一顿饭,真的满便宜的说。本来准备自己每天带饭了,想着在外面吃的话怎么着也得10胖左右啊,而且吃得还很一般。谢谢kevinao提供的信息。


4GBP相当于60CNY啊,你还觉得便宜,真有钱啊……呵呵
我看我们两个女生合住吧,每星期轮流烧饭,哈哈。


我估计在london饭量肯定会大,因为脑力消耗太大


作者: amazingsummer    时间: 2006-3-8 20:32

对了,签MiF的学生签证,是申请一年,是吗?然后找到工作,就申请换成工作签证?


现在英国签证(eg.在上海签)是面签,还是审核材料签啊?


作者: 站在水的中央    时间: 2006-3-9 11:14
LBS portal上有相关的信息的,拿到offer后就可以进去看的嘛
作者: amazingsummer    时间: 2006-3-9 13:50

心情好糟,LBS的DHL offer package被扣在英国,据说还没进上海,都一个星期了,真急人啊!


上海这边的DHL人员说他们也在和英国方面联系,可是我看他们一点不急的,笃笃悠悠的,

竟然连封信都到的不痛快!


作者: 陶粒    时间: 2006-3-9 20:55
以下是引用amazingsummer在2006-3-8 20:29:00的发言:



4GBP相当于60CNY啊,你还觉得便宜,真有钱啊……呵呵
我看我们两个女生合住吧,每星期轮流烧饭,哈哈。


我估计在london饭量肯定会大,因为脑力消耗太大


那不如加上我三个女生合住吧!


作者: icbcbj    时间: 2006-3-9 21:20

学校大门过条街有几幢flat,3个人住,大概一个人600块吧.不错


作者: qingcao    时间: 2006-3-9 23:00
以下是引用陶粒在2006-3-9 20:55:00的发言:


以下是引用amazingsummer在2006-3-8 20:29:00的发言:



4GBP相当于60CNY啊,你还觉得便宜,真有钱啊……呵呵
我看我们两个女生合住吧,每星期轮流烧饭,哈哈。


我估计在london饭量肯定会大,因为脑力消耗太大



那不如加上我三个女生合住吧!



Hi girls, when you are looking for roommate, please count me in.


作者: amazingsummer    时间: 2006-3-10 02:06
以下是引用qingcao在2006-3-9 23:00:00的发言:




那不如加上我三个女生合住吧!



Hi girls, when you are looking for roommate, please count me in.



hello, qingcao & 陶粒,


I am more than willing to become your roommates.


Let us keep discussion and keep in touch!


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作者: amazingsummer    时间: 2006-3-10 02:08
以下是引用icbcbj在2006-3-9 21:20:00的发言:

学校大门过条街有几幢flat,3个人住,大概一个人600块吧.不错



hello, icbcbj,那学校内部提供宿舍吗?是不是很紧张啊?


学校内部有可以3个人share的dorm style吗?学校宿舍内附炊事工具吗?谢谢!


btw, 600GBP per person per month, right?



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作者: 站在水的中央    时间: 2006-3-10 10:03
以下是引用amazingsummer在2006-3-9 13:50:00的发言:

心情好糟,LBS的DHL offer package被扣在英国,据说还没进上海,都一个星期了,真急人啊!


上海这边的DHL人员说他们也在和英国方面联系,可是我看他们一点不急的,笃笃悠悠的,

竟然连封信都到的不痛快!


情况跟LBS反映过了吧?他们能不能给你email电子版的先呢?

我有朋友曾经发生过FED EX给人往米国寄东西,被扣在海关一个月后才发出来的。


作者: amazingsummer    时间: 2006-3-10 11:07
以下是引用站在水的中央在2006-3-10 10:03:00的发言:


情况跟LBS反映过了吧?他们能不能给你email电子版的先呢?

我有朋友曾经发生过FED EX给人往米国寄东西,被扣在海关一个月后才发出来的。



Hi, Dear,谢谢关心!


现在每天都给上海DHL一个电话,据说DHL那整批包裹都丢失了,英国方面也在联系航空公司找,信件还没到上海。

真是FAINT,学费的事情已经够折磨人的了……


最新消息:LBS的服务真是好的没话说,主动来信说给我重新寄一遍,因为他们已经收到英国DHL的电话,说中国这边把pack misplaced了。



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作者: jy533    时间: 2006-3-10 14:56
warwick 比city好
作者: sinopolish    时间: 2006-3-11 04:16

祝賀Summer!一下就拿了兩個offers


作者: Insomniac4ever    时间: 2006-3-11 19:49

Absolutely agree with above, and btw, the business school of Warwick is top one in UK. However, the life there is bloody boring... Anyway, goog luck to you


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作者: icbcbj    时间: 2006-3-11 22:43

oops...when did the biz school of warwick become the No.1..


作者: eyedrop2002    时间: 2006-3-11 22:58

看来楼上几位大侠已经收到lbs的offer啦,羡慕ing啊啊啊,也恭喜啦!


伦敦商学院的金融硕士的面试通知来了,本人非金融专业出身,也没有金融相关工作经验,请教大家一些金融硕士面试会被问到的问题,想临阵磨枪,虽然不抱希望,可也不想死的太难看,如果面试十分钟就被赶出来,那我来回香港的路费也冤枉啊。谢谢啦!!!拜托拜托!


作者: qingcao    时间: 2006-3-12 14:23
No technical questions at all. It mainly focuses on your soft skills. School just wants to see whether you will participate to class discussion, how would you perform in the future job interveiws. Qustions are pretty common, such as self-introduction, why mif, your career goal, your career path, why do you switch your jobs, teamwork etc. Good luck.
作者: eyedrop2002    时间: 2006-3-12 18:15

Got it! Thanks for your kind reply.  I feel much better now.  BTW, Who knows the proportion of successful interviewees among all invited ones?


作者: 陶粒    时间: 2006-3-12 22:00

听面试我的校友说大概是80%呢 所以 楼上的 加油哦!一定成功!


作者: eyedrop2002    时间: 2006-3-12 23:12

多谢陶粒mm的鼓励!看到cd上已经n多人拿到offer了,没统计,不过感觉10个也有了啊,何况不是拿到offer的都来cd报到啊,所以在中国区的招生名额应该都满了呢,怎么还在不停面试。


作者: 站在水的中央    时间: 2006-3-13 17:12
icbcbj gg说今年是LBS在中国招生的大年,应该会招12个,所以眼药水MM加油哦!
作者: eyedrop2002    时间: 2006-3-13 23:48
嗯,我一定努力! 不管什么结果,俺都来CD报道,给后来者一点经验教训参考!
作者: eyedrop2002    时间: 2006-3-13 23:52
btw,不想去香港,通行证过期了,还要再签,学校说深圳有一对校友夫妻哦,呵呵,如果他们愿意面试我,那我就不用跑香港了,所以还在等待中,如果最终还是要去香港,签通行证也要上十天,唉! 我简直就是拖拖拉拉的最好代表,从申请开始到面试,什么都拖拉
作者: NEVERLAND    时间: 2006-3-14 00:13
以下是引用eyedrop2002在2006-3-13 23:52:00的发言:
btw,不想去香港,通行证过期了,还要再签,学校说深圳有一对校友夫妻哦,呵呵,如果他们愿意面试我,那我就不用跑香港了,所以还在等待中,如果最终还是要去香港,签通行证也要上十天,唉! 我简直就是拖拖拉拉的最好代表,从申请开始到面试,什么都拖拉

http://www.cmfchina.com/tszs/toushiyj.jsp

据我所知,招商基金就有一位MIF的校友,楼上的可以看看上面的网址.


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