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作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-19 01:21
标题: 885 sec12-19
19. Although it claims to delve into political issues, television can be superficial such as when each of the three major networks broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate.
(A) superficial such as when each of the three major networks
(B) superficial, as can sometimes occur if all of the three major networks
(C) superficial if the three major networks all
(D) superficial whenever each of the three major networks
(E) superficial, as when the three major networks each

Answer: E. 有"AS WHEN"用法么？why not just "as" or just "when"?
why is Ｃincorrect?

作者: braveMBA 时间: 2003-9-19 03:08
这题我也觉得怪怪的，试着解释一下：
这里的as的用法 == just as ，是对television can be superficial的一个举例。

作者: gemj 时间: 2003-9-19 03:35
我的理解是，首先，有as when的组合，我在逻辑里揪出了两个例子（兴奋不已啊！）。
21. The initial causes of serious accidents at nuclear power plants have not so far been flaws in the advanced-technology portion of the plants. Rather, the initial causes have been attributed to human error, as when a worker at the Browns Mills reactor in the United States dropped a candle and started a fire, or to flaws in the plumbing, exemplified in a recent incident in Japan. Such everyday events cannot be thought unlikely to occur over the long run.
19. The charge made above against alternative medicine is most seriously weakened if it is true that
(A) predictions based on orthodox medicine have sometimes failed, as when a patient has recovered despite the judgment of doctors that an illness is fatal
(B) alternative medicine relies on concepts of the body and of the nature of healing that differ from those on which orthodox medicine is based
(C) alternative medicine provides hope to those for whom orthodox medicine offers no cure
(D) a patient’s belief in the medical treatment the patient is receiving can release the body’s own chemical painkillers, diminish allergic reactions, and promote healing
(E) many treatments used for a time by orthodox medicine have later been found to be totally ineffective
其次，as肯定是连词，意思是“正如”，when作副词。加在一起，结合这三个例子，“as when”的意思可以理解为“正如当…的时候。”

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作者: braveMBA 时间: 2003-9-19 04:58
UP

作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-19 08:33
好象总是咱们仨你唱我和的.我都不指望别人回答我的问题了

作者: hiddragon 时间: 2003-9-24 23:29
奇怪！好象the three major networks each后面应该接谓语+S。可是未划线部分broadcast是没加S。C项中the three major networks all倒是接broadcast不加S才对。WHY？

作者: hiddragon 时间: 2003-9-27 23:22
PLS REFER TO:
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=23&ID=16368

作者: exan 时间: 2003-10-17 01:55
But why "as when" is better than "if"?

作者: cxj 时间: 2003-10-17 11:22
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This is the explanation about "each" from American Heritage dictionary.For reference!
The traditional rule holds that when the subject of a sentence begins with  each, it is grammatically singular, and the verb and following pronouns must be singular as well:
Each of the suites has (not  have)  its (not  their)  own private entrance (not  entrances). When  each follows a plural subject, however, the verb and subsequent pronouns remain in the plural:
The suites each have their own private entrances (not  has its own private entrance). An exception is made when  each follows the verb with a first-person plural subject: one may say either  We boys have each our own roomor  We boys have each his own room, though the latter form is somewhat stilted in modern use. · The expression  each and every is likewise followed by a singular verb and singular pronoun in formal style:
Each and every driver knows (not  know)  what his or her (not  their)  job is to be.

作者: joywzy 时间: 2003-10-31 20:44
可是，这题中E为什么比C好？

if 和when在这题中有什么区别吗？会影响句子的判断？？

谢谢。

作者: gemj 时间: 2003-10-31 23:53
从逻辑意思上并非假设关系。
C中
superficial if the three major networks all
意思是“如果。。。，则可能肤浅”
言外之意是“如果不同时播同一个东西就不肤浅”
显然不如E好。

作者: joywzy 时间: 2003-11-1 08:20
多谢了。这题我原先一直糊涂呢。

作者: cxj 时间: 2003-11-9 13:06
good job!

作者: freshplayboy 时间: 2003-11-27 09:36
我觉得the sthree major works 是主语，而 each 是他的同位语，所以后面用broadcast

作者: susanyaki 时间: 2004-5-28 17:11

gemj，a wonderful example as you have cited , you have made a mistake here.

in fact, according to OG, "as" is used to compare something, and when so, it is used as conj. so "as when" can be explained as "就和当---------的时候一样" in chinese!! do you agree with me???

作者: susanyaki 时间: 2004-5-28 17:12
P.S.when here is not a adv

作者: vickiyan 时间: 2005-8-28 09:37

有个鬼佬是这么解释C的。（from testmagic.com）

I think C is the part that is confusing people, so let’s flip the sentence around to see a bit more clearly that it’s not correct to use if with can:

If all of the three major networks broadcast the same statement, television can be superficial.

This sentence should read:

If all of the three major networks broadcast the same statement, television will be superficial.

In other word, it’s not correct to use can after if. Let’s look at a simpler example:

If the temperature drops below 0 degrees Celsius, distilled water can or will freeze.

Finally, it’s better to use each than it is to use all, since each network is operating independently, all implies that the networks were working together.

关于each用法，他还举了两个例句，看过就记住了。

Three cats each eat …

Three cats, each of which eats…

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作者: boluomeimei 时间: 2005-9-2 16:07

多谢！！！

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作者: gonghao 时间: 2006-5-23 10:11

so as to一般必错

还得so。。。。as to主语清晰

作者: livary 时间: 2006-6-10 21:28

以下是引用gonghao在2006-5-23 10:11:00的发言：

so as to一般必错

还得so。。。。as to主语清晰

为什么必错呢? 请问有没有什么根据啊?

作者: gonghao 时间: 2006-8-6 13:26

今天又看这题

就在E和C里徘徊

有人说C的话，if 后该用will

有人说E里面的主语是three。。。不是each，所以不要第三人称单数

。。。

作者: fengyun1 时间: 2006-8-28 22:42

同感，同感。做到这题，我知道我又要错了。

作者: wuwu717 时间: 2006-10-3 06:19

Vickiyan, good job!

Thanks.

作者: 花仙子 时间: 2006-12-25 17:50
up!

作者: supermary 时间: 2007-1-26 12:27

以下是引用susanyaki在2004-5-28 17:11:00的发言：

gemj，a wonderful example as you have cited , you have made a mistake here.

I like the translation of 就和当---------的时候一样.

19. Although it claims to delve into political issues, television can be superficial, as
(superficial as it is)
when the three major networks each broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate.

作者: gonghao 时间: 2007-4-4 22:59

楼上的补充有意思

作者: seumao 时间: 2007-9-5 23:41

if是“如果”的意思

而

“AS WHEN”是“就如当……的时候”

例如：

breathe noisily, as
when one is exhausted.
当一个人非常累时，他会粗重地喘息。（英英字典）

仔细比较这两个都是“假设”的意思可以感觉出后者好！

作者: easy4meeeeee 时间: 2007-9-18 16:58

Because each network(among the three networks) would broadcast its own statement(singular).

Three networks broadcast three independent statement(S), which are "exactly the same".

So, if we look to answer C to be a right answer, the word "statement" should be plus an "s" as a plural one.

Then, this passage would be change to : .....superficial if the three major networks all broadcast exactly the same statement(S)....

open t discuss

PS:

As i know, "each... the same thing" and " all ....the same thing(S)" would be correct expression

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作者: 吴羽若 时间: 2008-7-30 11:44
这题刘振民语法精解里面有，解释说因为翻译过来，E更好，这里as表示“比如说”算是特殊用法。

作者: crazyyeah 时间: 2008-11-4 10:20
真正做到这种难题偏题的时候就显出sbbi和gemj大牛们的功力了，晚辈在此谢过！

作者: starquake 时间: 2008-12-17 15:36

这就是Gemj兄提到过的as when 题呀！

一口气读完，对大牛们当年论剑的风采很神往！

我开始也选的C, 现在明白了。坚定信心，排除万难，向大牛们看齐！

作者: lcy19812000 时间: 2009-1-12 21:14
同意楼上。

作者: zhuceg 时间: 2009-3-6 06:51
两个语法点， as when 和 three networks each broadcast
顶上去让多点战友看到

作者: xxxyyyzzz1 时间: 2009-4-17 21:39
依然迷惑each在这里是什么成分和词性，为什么要这么表达？
版主呀～～～

大牛们的解释很好，但是还是没有完全明白啊

作者: xxxyyyzzz1 时间: 2009-4-18 14:10
顶上来
请大家赐教

作者: dujuan034 时间: 2009-8-23 10:37

希望后辈们继续看下去。

作者: messer 时间: 2010-8-28 13:11
晚辈看不下去了晚晚辈继续

作者: stellina 时间: 2010-10-4 22:48
谢谢大牛们！

作者: bnuyanghong 时间: 2010-10-30 20:32
感谢大牛们

作者: beggerQ 时间: 2010-10-30 23:01
Although it claims to delve into political issues, television can be superficial such as when each of the three major networks broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate.
(A) superficial such as when each of the three major networks
(B) superficial, as can sometimes occur if all of the three major networks
(C) superficial if the three major networks all
(D) superficial whenever each of the three major networks
(E) superficial, as when the three major networks each
1.读题发现根据agreement原则排除AD
2.根据句子结构:although...+主句,是一套条件句,如果主句后面再加IF从句就会误解为是第二个从句的主句,而产生歧义(OG公里请查看OG)简单说就是从+主+从就错.所以排除CB选E
3单看E:复数+each用复数动词/each+复数用单数动词(OG公里请查看)
而且AS有一个功能是做代词,简单的说就是可以充当名词,这里就是一个名词短语结尾做补充说明跟同位语一样.(其实E选相都不用看就可以根据1,2的分析选出来,看明白就更好)
没人回贴我很理解确实着急我发的问题贴也没人回.所以我搞明白了这道题我回给你希望你也明白了.呵呵

作者: tkcamfan 时间: 2011-6-24 19:16
受教。

作者: alexibm 时间: 2011-7-13 13:07
这道题我也错过，今天看帖子看到又浏览了一遍。值得注意的是这个是2003年的帖子，忽然觉得牛人在我还啥都不懂的时候就那么牛了。真是感慨万分啊。

作者: nemiah 时间: 2011-7-13 14:34
我觉得这个C的错误还有一点：

television can be superficial if the 3 networks all broadcast...if从句里用现在时，主句应该用will be superficial 而不是can be。

另外，the 3 networks all broadcast 的all的位置也不好，应该说all the 3 networks broadcast... 放在这里用来修饰broadcast吗？不好吧？

作者: sayar 时间: 2011-8-31 21:54
各种解释各种火星牛牛~！！受教了~必须顶！

作者: yjjfly 时间: 2012-2-24 07:39
as 做pron. 指代前边的简单主句television can be superficial
(Based on Bai Yong GMAT 语法全解)

作者: 鱼鱼的小手 时间: 2012-3-21 15:29
马克马克

作者: rylstar01 时间: 2013-3-15 23:19
感谢以往前辈的奉献。太精彩了：）

作者: joymumu 时间: 2013-3-21 14:59
感谢CD

作者: ott_227 时间: 2015-4-30 18:24
感谢分享！

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