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作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-18 01:24
标题: 885 补充题126
126. Cooperative apartment houses have the peculiar distinction of being dwellings that must also operate as businesses.
(A) of being dwellings that must also operate as businesses
(B) of dwellings that must also operate like business
(C) that they are dwellings that must operate like business
(D) that, as dwellings, they must also operate like businesses
(E) to be a dwelling that must also operate as a business

Answer is A. Why? Why not D or some else?

作者: gemj 时间: 2003-9-18 02:21
D中THAT从句修饰DISTINCTION在逻辑上不通，而且OPERATE　LIKE也显然不对，应该是OPERATE　AS，意思是作为商业来运作，而非“象商业那样来运作。”
至于A，其中出现的一个N1＋of being＋N2的结构，这个结构的确不常见，常见的结构是N1＋of being＋过去分词/adj。但这个结构是有的，见下面的两个例子（全部阅读加全部逻辑也就是这两个！）
5. The ends of modern centuries have been greeted with both apocalyptic anxieties and utopian fantasies. It is not surprising that both reactions have consistently proven to be misplaced. After all, the precise time when a century happens to end cannot have any special significance, since the Gregorian calendar, though widely used, is only one among many that people have devised.
Which one of the following, if true, could be substituted for the reason cited above while still preserving the force of the argument?
(A) It is logically impossible for both reactions to be correct at the same time.
(B) What is a utopian fantasy to one group of people may well be, for another group of people, a realization of their worst fears.
(C) The number system based on the number ten, in the absence of which one hundred years would not have the appearance of being a significant period of time, is by no means the only one that people have created.
(D) The firm expectation that something extraordinary is about to happen can make people behave in a manner that makes it less likely that something extraordinary will happen.
(E) Since a century far exceeds the normal human life span, people do not live long enough to learn from mistakes that they themselves made one hundred years before.
25. Economist: No economic system that is centrally planned can efficiently allocate resources, and efficient allocation of resources is a necessary condition for achieving a national debt of less than 5 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP). It follows that any nation with a centrally planned economy has a national debt that is at least 5 percent of GDP.
The pattern of reasoning exhibited by the economist’s argument is most similar to that exhibited by which one of the following?
(A) Not all mammals are without wings, because bats are mammals and bats have wings.
(B) All of the rural districts are free of major air pollution problems because such problems occur only where there is a large concentration of automobiles, and there are no such places in the rural districts.
(C) All of the ungulates are herbivores, and most herbivores would not attack a human being. It follows that any animal that would attack a human being is unlikely to be ungulate.
(D) All rock stars who are famous have their own record companies, and all rock stars with their own record companies receive company profits over and above their regular royalties. This implies that receiving large regular royalties is a necessary condition of being a famous rock star.
(E) Every mutual fund manager knows someone who trades on inside information, and no one who trades on inside information is unknown to every mutual fund manager. One must conclude that no mutual fund manager is unknown to every one who trades on inside information.

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作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-18 03:48
为什么从逻辑上A通D不通?

以下是引用gemj在2003-9-18 2:21:00的发言：
D中THAT从句修饰DISTINCTION在逻辑上不通

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作者: braveMBA 时间: 2003-9-18 05:23
我觉得这题的结构是不是应该是：
Cooperative apartment houses [that must also operate as businesses] have the peculiar distinction of being dwellings .
否则理解不通。D中的that从句变得比较模糊，不知道在修饰什么。另外从句子意思上看，as dwellings变成了插入语，似乎改变了句子的意思。

另外，我觉得象distinction,importance, significance + [of]的结构来看，如果改变成如importance that .....在句子意思方面就变得不清晰，究竟是“重要性”是什么。

补充材料140题，就是那道importance of communication as a two-way process will be emphasized.

当然这是题外话，看到了distinction of想起了，欢迎大家讨论。

作者: gemj 时间: 2003-9-18 23:47

以下是引用sbbi在2003-9-18 3:48:00的发言：
为什么从逻辑上A通D不通?

D如果修饰distinction，则THEY多余，而且distinction must also operate as (like) businesses逻辑不通。如果修饰houses，不仅THEY多余，而且这句话不完整，变成了：Cooperative apartment houses that… have the peculiar distinction. 到底具有怎样的特性呢？
所以怎么都逻辑不通啊。
By the way, 关于THAT从句，GRE中的一个句子堪称经典，也是GRE中最难的句子，供欣赏：
When the object is optimal resource allocation, that combination of legal methods should be used that most nearly yields the allocation that would exist if there were no external costs resulting from allocating resources through market activity.

作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-19 00:48
晕.
gemj真是旁证博引,简直就是GMAT界的考古学家!

作者: braveMBA 时间: 2003-9-19 01:01
就是，怀疑GEMJ兄是博士吧。DOCTOR！

作者: sbbi 时间: 2003-9-19 01:04
一定是Doctor of GMAT

作者: fyhllj 时间: 2003-9-19 01:05
佩服，支持gemj, bravemba 作语法区斑竹。

作者: nettalker 时间: 2003-10-5 22:28
个人意见，此处that从句显然是同位语从句修饰distinction, 而非定语从句（存在逻辑语病），所以应该不存在逻辑问题。
我认为，a用of 更好，另外d的they可能存在一定的歧义，最后用同位语从句感觉上不如用of好。大家的意见呢？我觉得这题可算SC中最难题之一了。

by the way, lzm上面此题a,b,c,d都是businesses(复数）,若b中为businesses, which one is better, a or b?

作者: gemj 时间: 2003-10-5 22:58

以下是引用nettalker在2003-10-5 22:28:00的发言：
个人意见，此处that从句显然是同位语从句修饰distinction, 而非定语从句（存在逻辑语病），所以应该不存在逻辑问题。

是的，应该是同位语从句，我说错了。谢谢！

作者: nettalker 时间: 2003-10-5 23:12
GEMJ真是具有大侠风范，搜罗了这么多宝贝给大家！想请教以下：

When the object is optimal resource allocation, that combination of legal methods should be used that most nearly yields the allocation that would exist if there were no external costs resulting from allocating resources through market activity.

是否：主语，that combination of legal methods
谓语, should be used
that most nearly yields

作者: nettalker 时间: 2003-10-5 23:15
接上贴
that most nearly yields做定语从句修饰that combination,
感觉第一个that是限定词修饰combination,但它指什么呢？
这句确实难！

作者: gemj 时间: 2003-10-6 09:56
你的理解是对的。没有上下文，你就理解得这么好，牛啊！建议当版主！
第一个THAT作ADJ，作“那个”讲：
that
adj.那, 那个

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作者: ford424 时间: 2005-3-11 21:37

另外，我觉得象distinction,importance, significance + [of]的结构来看，如果改变成如importance that .....在句子意思方面就变得不清晰，究竟是“重要性”是什么。

bravemba版主这句话大家怎么理解啊?

谢谢!

作者: duxin 时间: 2005-5-17 11:27

至于A，其中出现的一个N1＋of being＋N2的结构，这个结构的确不常见，常见的结构是N1＋of being＋过去分词/adj。

我想问上面两个词组是什么意思呢,请大家别笑话我

作者: duxin 时间: 2005-5-18 16:13
请牛人帮忙指点呀，先谢谢大家了

作者: tonyadidas 时间: 2005-5-18 21:51

Gemj兄，绝对无意冒犯，对于您的贡献及成就在下敬仰得紧。只是GMAT逻辑与阅读中不符合SC习惯的表达也太多了吧。我经常做题会暗骂：“ETS你小样儿的就可以乱用咱就不行！”

关于这道题，我的看法是，我参考过的所有SC资料里只有the distinction of being和the chance of being两种情况用到了being这个禁忌，且凡是出现这种结构的均为正确选项。是否与dupe into doing这些Set Phrase类似，这也是一种搭配呢？记得第一次看见credit somebody with having done/give credit to sb of having done的时候惊讶之情溢于言表。这里会不会也是反常?还望Gemj指点迷津。

作者: fly_ing521 时间: 2005-6-2 13:01

A中being感觉还是有必要的,这样整个句子可以等同于两部分:

首先,houses are dwellings

其次,houses有dwellings的奇怪........

如果去掉being,就是houses有dwellings的奇怪......就象A有B的特点,而A不等于B,感觉这种表述有点唐突不如上边的好.

大家认为呢?

作者: crystalno_1 时间: 2005-7-13 23:46

偶不知道楼上同学的想法是否正确，第一次听到，不知道有没有什么例证啊？

作者: madeinchina1984 时间: 2005-8-29 12:16

U SHOULD USE "DISTINCTION OF ..." LIKE "IMPORTANCE OF..."

作者: howardwang 时间: 2005-8-29 12:34

其实，这里这是考的distinction的一个特殊用法，表示....方面的特性。请看字典上的解释：

distinction

the quality of being special in some way
have/earn/achieve etc the distinction of doing something

At that time, it had the distinction of being the largest bridge in the UK.

The US enjoys the dubious distinction of being the lawsuit capital of the world.

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作者: billytang1980 时间: 2006-2-8 11:10

w我到觉得是B对

大家能否给我一个驳回B的理由呢？？？

请帮忙赐教阿！！！

作者: livary 时间: 2006-6-9 19:22

以下是引用howardwang在2005-8-29 12:34:00的发言：

其实，这里这是考的distinction的一个特殊用法，表示....方面的特性。请看字典上的解释：

distinction

the quality of being special in some way
have/earn/achieve etc the distinction of doing something

At that time, it had the distinction of being the largest bridge in the UK.

The US enjoys the dubious distinction of being the lawsuit capital of the world.

我觉得howardwangGG把这个问题解决了...鼓掌!

作者: snowfield 时间: 2006-6-27 04:00

To billy:

'operate as' should not be 'operate like'.

作者: anniya 时间: 2006-7-22 23:32

以下是引用tonyadidas在2005-5-18 21:51:00的发言：

thank you sir!

一下子解决了几个问题！

作者: everann 时间: 2006-10-21 23:35

这里有词义上的差别。牛津高阶：

1、distinction (between A and B)

difference or contrast between one person or thing and another 差别；对比

He drew a quite artificial distinction between men and women readers.

他把男读者和女读者硬是人为地区分开来。

2、quality of being excellent or distinguished 优秀；卓越

a writer, novel, work of distinction

优秀的作家、小说、作品

She had the distinction of being the first woman to swim the Channel.

她卓尔不群，因为她是第一个横渡英吉利海峡的女子。

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作者: jaleel 时间: 2006-11-17 00:16

以下是引用ford424在2005-3-11 21:37:00的发言：

另外，我觉得象distinction,importance, significance + [of]的结构来看，如果改变成如importance that .....在句子意思方面就变得不清晰，究竟是“重要性”是什么。

bravemba版主这句话大家怎么理解啊?

谢谢!

应该是说用 of 和 that 修饰前面的名词逻辑含义上的不同，用of表示限制，用that表示解释。

important that ... ... 感觉更倾向于理解为用that后面的内容解释什么是重要性，而不是说that后面内容的重要性。

这样逻辑就有问题了，所以这样的词后面只能加of，不能加that。

补充一个necessity，“重要性”、“必要性”都是这类的词。

作者: supermary 时间: 2007-1-26 10:04

D为何错？。Cooperative apartment houses的特色不能和DWELLING比较；Cooperative apartment houses也不是和DWELLING比较，如A所说，Cooperative apartment houses是一种具有如何如何特色的DWELLING。

如果拿不准distinction的用法，是distinction of呢？还是可以有distinction that的用法，在这种情况下，从意思上下手更快更准确。

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作者: MBA1982 时间: 2008-9-14 11:48
敢情大牛们都是从这一个坑跳出来的!

作者: iamyamy 时间: 2009-2-13 00:07
赞牛牛们!!!~~~~

作者: songlovegt 时间: 2009-3-13 21:06

发现指代限定的又一种方式，放到这儿一起讨论

GWD-12-Q20:

Approved April 24, 1800, the act of Congress that made provision for the removal of the government of the United States to the new federal city, Washington, D.C., also established the Library of Congress.

Approved April 24, 1800, the act of Congress that made provision for the removal of the government of the United States to the new federal city, Washington, D.C., also established
The act of Congress, which was approved April 24, 1800, making provision for the removal of the government of the United States to the new federal city, Washington, D.C., also established
The act of Congress approved April 24, 1800, which made provision for the removal of the government of the United States to the new federal city, Washington, D.C., and established
Approved April 24, 1800, making provision for the removal of the government of the United States to the new federal city, Washington, D.C., the act of Congress also established
Approved April 24, 1800, the act of Congress made provision for the removal of the government of the United States to the new federal city, Washington, D.C., also establishing

(A)

that 指代对象，表面上有歧义问题即可指代 the act 又可指代 Cogress

Q20: Approved April 24, 1800, the act of Congress that made provision for the removal of the government of the United States to the new federal city, Washington, D.C., also established the Library of Congress.

关键还是 also 用的好，表达了established 的逻辑主语和 made provision for the removal of 的逻辑主语是一样的，Congress 不可能做 established 的逻辑主语，所以避免了 that 指代歧义。

作者: songlovegt 时间: 2009-3-27 06:10

再来一个
gwd13-11，

Q11:

A South American bird
that forages for winged termites and other small insects while swinging
upside down from the foliage of tall trees, the graveteiro belongs
to the ovenbird family, a group of New World tropical birds that
includes more than 230 species and that are represented in virtually every kind of habitat.

graveteiro belongs to the ovenbird family, a group of New World tropical birds that includes more than 230 species and that are
graveteiro belongs to the ovenbird family, a group of New World tropical birds that includes more than 230 species and is
graveteiro belongs to the ovenbird family, a group of New World tropical birds that include more than 230 species and is
graveteiro,
which belongs to the ovenbird family, a group of New World tropical
birds that includes more than 230 species and that are
graveteiro, which belongs to the ovenbird family, a group of New World tropical birds that includes more than 230 species and is

B
that 修饰的是 a group，通过逻辑判断。

joe11 大侠，一语道破天机

B is correct.

Like Vincent and Rhod mentioned, "group" is the subject of the that-clause, Not the "birds".

"a group" can include 230 species, "birds" should include >>> 230 species.

做题时还要考虑逻辑关系和题目含义，不是只靠语法结构的。

作者: ruoshany 时间: 2009-4-30 15:29

觉得that作定语修饰 dwellings, and " of being dwellings" modify "distinction". ----- 特别之处就是作为.......的dwellings.

还有就是 that从句如果作同位语修饰distinction的话形式上是不是应该是n + that 从句，而且同位语一般都紧跟所修饰的名词的。所以that... 只能做定语从句， plus, that。。。修饰distinction 逻辑上不合理，所以它应该就近修饰 dwellings 的。

呵呵也不知道对不对。。

作者: edogawaconan 时间: 2009-7-27 10:51

以下是引用gemj在2003/9/18 23:47:00的发言：

By the way, 关于THAT从句，GRE中的一个句子堪称经典，也是GRE中最难的句子，供欣赏：
When the object is optimal resource allocation, that combination of legal methods should be used that most nearly yields the allocation that would exist if there were no external costs resulting from allocating resources through market activity.

当对象是最佳的资源分配，与法律结合的方法应该被使用，这种方法最能产生那种如果本来没有来自于通过市场活动分配资源所造成的成本代价时应有的分配。

我连中文都要看不懂了/(ㄒoㄒ)/~~

作者: 牛肉包子 时间: 2010-6-26 16:52
叹为观止。。。。

作者: 夜色微蓝 时间: 2011-4-19 09:54
呵呵呵呵

………好高深啊……牛就是牛……

只能端个板凳坐着旁观，先收藏了，修炼一阵，再来看

哈~

作者: b1tch 时间: 2015-2-17 21:28
3.a distinguishing quality

it has the distinction of being the cheapest restaurant in town
字典上distinction的用法！！！！这是他的第三个意思！！！
然后下面是例句！！！！
这应该是一种介词后面的动名词
表示和某物的区别！！！！
it 和 cheapest restaurant 是一类物但是又有区别
所以就是 it 和 it本身所属的 cheapest restaurant 的区别！！！

作者: Kittycy01 时间: 2016-6-1 14:55
Mark一下！

作者: 锕儍 时间: 2016-9-7 11:11
the distinction of BEING dwellings 我觉得这种结构最重要的是强调作用，也就是在作为dwellings的同时还需要作为商用。二楼的两个例子也是这样，都是必须突出“作为”这个动作/状态。
D选项they多余，定语从句中先行词也要在句中作成分。

作者: 神粥八宝 时间: 2017-12-3 17:39
我滴个妈呀。。。都是神人

作者: 宋痂岛__ 时间: 2018-3-28 18:33
Cooperative apartment houses have the peculiar distinction of being dwellings that must also operate as businesses.
这个句子我查找了朗文distinction的用法，在第3个释义中：
distincition表示“不寻常”“独特”,表示描述某个事物独一无二的特征、特质
E.g:The US enjoys the dubuous distinction of being the lawsuit capital of the world.
美国享有世界诉讼之都的“美名”。

单独列出来的是这样一个词组：have/earn/achieve the distincition of doing sth.
E.g:At that time, it had the distinction of being the largest bridge in the UK.
那时候，它的独特之处在于，它是英国最大的桥梁。

不禁联想到
Ron在视频课中讲过：
Noun prep Noun doing，如:There is no evidence of       my brother stealing the candy.是有问题的，因为stealing成为了modifier，不是句子重心。
                                                            Noun    prep          Noun       doing
所以在这种情况下用There is no evidence that my brother stealed the candy.才能表达句意。名词不能够表达一个句子的含义。

而在Cooperative句子中  distinction of    being dwellings
                                       Noun prep    being....（在句意上是一个句子，表示：Subjective是........）
这里很特殊用being .....来表达一个句子的含义，因为我需要描述的是主语的特征：它是.......，如果没有being，那么句意也改变了

如果说将being去掉，就变成了Cooperative apartment houses have the peculiar distinction of dwellings that must also operate as businesses.
是不是就变成了Ron所讲过的错误，用名词来代替一个句子？这是错的

把它当成是一个固定用法idiom记最好，因为distinction表示差别、区别是一般是：distinction between A and B
have distinction of doing/being 表示有特质，表示特征。

还有需要注意的是，being .....是在做modifier的时候被判作有误，但是在做主语，动词现在时时态是没有问题的
现在我又知道了在这个词组中，of being ....作为一个prep modifier 也是正确的。

作者: 宋痂岛__ 时间: 2018-3-29 18:22

宋痂岛__ 发表于 2018-3-28 18:33
Cooperative apartment houses have the peculiar distinction of being dwellings that must also operate ...

being 表示进行时时态的modifier是正确的

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