99. Although the manager agreed to a more flexible work schedule, he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is assigned to do.
(A) he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is
(B) he said it had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor knows what everyone is
(C) he said that they would have to post the assignments on the bulletin board so that management and labor knew what everyone was
(D) he said that the schedule would have to be posted on the bulletin board so thatboth management and labor would know what everyone was
(E) saying that the schedule had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor would know what everyone had been
这道题以前有很多争论，有人说是D, 但大多数说是A，原因是must不能改成would have to.
我语法不好，但语感很强，第一次看到A就发现那个 it 用错。这个it不能代表前面那个schedule。前面那个schedule是指时间＝manager agreed to a more flexible work hour。后面那个it是日程表，是个实物=he said that the time sheet must be posted... 同是schedule, 两个meanings. 用了 it 就是最忌讳的代词指代问题。而且A中时态实在可疑，如果是 Although..., he said, "it must be...will...is" 还行。比起时态和代词问题，D中的would have to就是小问题了。欢迎讨论。
同意LZ的观点, D中写出了"the schedule",不得我觉得D比A好. 我觉得A时态有问题.
请大家讨论.
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I prefer A. 就算schedule=hour, it is not wrong to say 'my manager need to post our hours out for us'. Hours 这里是 'it'.
(D) he said that the schedule would have to be posted on the bulletin board so thatboth management and labor would know what everyone was
I don't think we can use was. Because the schedule is going to posted and thus still in effect. Therefore we must use present tense.
请指教
I prefer A. 就算schedule=hour, it is not wrong to say 'my manager need to post our hours out for us'. Hours 这里是 'it'.
(D) he said that the schedule would have to be posted on the bulletin board so thatboth management and labor would know what everyone was
I don't think we can use was. Because the schedule is going to posted and thus still in effect. Therefore we must use present tense.
请指教
可是was 用的并没有错, assign是在post只前发生,用一般过去时. 而post用的是过去将来时. 这是可以的.
D: would be posted...would know...sth was assigned. I don't see a problem here.
Answer A, "will know...sth is assigned", has the same tense structure as D, but verbs are shifted to present tense. Answer A would be correct if it uses direct speech, which must be quoted in double-quotation mark.
As I said, the real problem here is in the "it". If you think thoroughly about it, how can you post the "hour" on the wall? You must put it on paper before you can post. If you translate the sentence to Chinese, then the problem does seem less obvious, but I can feel it the first time I read it.
Different opinions are welcomed!
I spent a long time and tried to disprove myself. Here it is.
OG46. A study commissioned by the Department of Agriculture showed that if calves exercise and associated with other calves, they will require less medication and gain weight quicker than do those raised in confinement.
(A) associated with other calves, they will require less medication and gain weight quicker than do
(B) associated with other calves, they require less medication and gain weight quicker than
(C) associate with other calves, they required less medication and will gain weight quicker than do
(D) associate with other calves, they have required less medication and will gain weight more quickly than do（E）
(E) associate with other calves, they require less medication and gain weight more quickly than
Verb tense shift, showed that…exercise and associate…, is used by ETS itself. I apologize for my mistake, and I must correct myself here. It seems to me that said that or showed that can be followed by present tense to state a direct quote or a fact.
However, I stand behind my theory that D is the answer because the verb tense in D is in the correct indirect speech format, and D uses schedule instead of it.
欢迎大家反驳!
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第一个schedule不可能是hour的意思，因为工作时间量应该是固定的，比如8小时，只是上下班的时间可以变化而已阿。
想想覺得C好,
因為指示的更清楚(assignment,assign to everyone),且主動.
99. Although the manager agreed to a more flexible work schedule, he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is assigned to do.
(A) he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is
(B) he said it had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor knows what everyone is
(C) he said that they would have to post the assignments on the bulletin board so that management and labor knew what everyone was
(D) he said that the schedule would have to be posted on the bulletin board so thatboth management and labor would know what everyone was
(E) saying that the schedule had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor would know what everyone had been
这道题以前有很多争论，有人说是D, 但大多数说是A，原因是must不能改成would have to.
我语法不好，但语感很强，第一次看到A就发现那个 it 用错。这个it不能代表前面那个schedule。前面那个schedule是指时间＝manager agreed to a more flexible work hour。后面那个it是日程表，是个实物=he said that the time sheet must be posted... 同是schedule, 两个meanings. 用了 it 就是最忌讳的代词指代问题。而且A中时态实在可疑，如果是 Although..., he said, "it must be...will...is" 还行。比起时态和代词问题，D中的would have to就是小问题了。欢迎讨论。
I also believe D is the correct answer but I don't think it in A has any problem. Work schedule means 工作的日程计划 and has nothing to do with time sheet.
must
助動詞
1.must(必須)作<情態助動詞>,相當於have to,但must強調主觀因素,而<have to>強調客觀因素。
I must go now.
我現在必須走。(我自己認為應該走了)
have to
助動詞
1.<have to>(必須)是<情態助動詞>,後接原形<動詞>,表示客觀條件決定不得不做某事。
I have to go now. (我現在不得不走了)
I don't think that "must" implies subjective while "have to" implies objective. I did some research and below is my finding.
http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/grammar/archive/mustvshaveto.html Both must and have to can be used to speak about obligation or necessity: This is only the case when we are referring to the present or future. When we speak about obligation or necessity in the past, we use have to. It is not possible to use must in this way.
因此，我认为这道题的正确答案就是D。
啊. 我半年前的贴被翻了出来. 嘻嘻. 当初OG可能才看了20题, 做题全凭语感, 读得顺就选了, 但说不出为什么. 初生的牛犊不怕虎, 大家见笑了. 今天再看看, 希望能解释的好一些.
1)就像madben 说的must, have to 表示 obligation or necessity时是interchangeable的.
2)当初觉得it指代有问题, 但解释的不好. 现在我觉得原因是a more flexible work schedule是泛指. The manager agreed to a more flexible schedule是manager同意更宽松的schedule, 但具体schedule还没制定出来. 如果schedule已出, 拿着这个schedule去问manager批, 则用: manager agreed to the more flexible schedule. 即然这里泛指schedule, 1) “it”就还没诞生呢 2)it诞生后的事要用将来时, 正像D里的would, 所以我觉得A里的must的现在时也不对.
还是支持D. Open for discussion.
啊. 我半年前的贴被翻了出来. 嘻嘻. 当初OG可能才看了20题, 做题全凭语感, 读得顺就选了, 但说不出为什么. 初生的牛犊不怕虎, 大家见笑了. 今天再看看, 希望能解释的好一些.
1)就像madben 说的must, have to 表示 obligation or necessity时是interchangeable的.
2)当初觉得it指代有问题, 但解释的不好. 现在我觉得原因是a more flexible work schedule是泛指. The manager agreed to a more flexible schedule是manager同意更宽松的schedule, 但具体schedule还没制定出来. 如果schedule已出, 拿着这个schedule去问manager批, 则用: manager agreed to the more flexible schedule. 即然这里泛指schedule, 1) “it”就还没诞生呢 2)it诞生后的事要用将来时, 正像D里的would, 所以我觉得A里的must的现在时也不对.
还是支持D. Open for discussion.
Thanks for your reply. Againt, I agree that D is still the best answer, and "A里的must的现在时也不对."
But is there any problem if it
refers to something that has not existed or happened yet? Maybe my 语感 is just not strong enough, can you please explain a little more on this?
我觉得翻成了中文很难解释. 注意翻的时候别漏了定冠词.
a more flexible schedule 是泛指, 翻过来: 一个比较宽松的时间表, 指任何一个比较宽松的时间表. the more flexible schedule是特指, 翻过来: 那个比较宽松的时间表. 所以it来泛指的时候有指代不清的嫌疑, 因为it本身是特指. 而D中补了the schedule, 注意那个the, 就指定那个schedule了.
定冠词虽短, 但对于non-native speaker来说很难把握. 而且中文里对定冠词也不是很强调. 对于native speaker来说, 他们从小就这么说, 也不知道为什么这么说, 但小小a, the用错, 他们马上知道.
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madben, 若不嫌弃, 可以加我MSN, jandjshi@msn.com. We can discuss off-line.
I got a message saying that you couldn't be added to my contact list because you have not signed up for a Microsoft Passport account. My MSN account madben(在) gmail.com.
要是俺在考场上碰到这题，还是会选D.
根据前半句的句意，还是觉得A,B选项的it指代有问题。
而D选项直接用名词schedule，是哦OG prefer的优选答案。
大家不觉得A中用了said that ...must ...will know what is ...时态上不对应吗？
D用would 正好与said 的时态对应啊？
Am I correct ?
大家不觉得A中用了said that ...must ...will know what is ...时态上不对应吗？
D用would 正好与said 的时态对应啊？
Am I correct ?
work schedule
工作程序表, 工作记录, 工作进度表
所以可以贴
而且主客观之分决定A
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