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作者: seasnow 时间: 2006-1-18 13:58
标题: [讨论]OG11th-50

(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault

(B) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault

(C) It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology

(D) It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology

(E) The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said

感觉C比较顺口。这道题怎么做呢？

作者: carolhide 时间: 2006-1-18 15:33

大全里的题

作者: seasnow 时间: 2006-1-19 05:07

at fault for 是不是固定短语啊？这句话什么意思呢？

大全的第几道题？能不能给个链接呢？谢谢！

作者: Evelyn2005 时间: 2006-1-19 05:41

我选D是遵从了concise的原则，个人觉得"educators are at fault"比"it's the fault of educators"简洁跟地道。而且C里面连着用了两个IT，有点指代不清的嫌疑。

我不确实at fault for是不是习惯用语，手头上没有很权威的字典。

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作者: seasnow 时间: 2006-1-19 07:30

嗯，似乎有道理，而且C中用了完成时也是没有依据的。是我糊涂了。

不过这句话的意思怎么翻译呢？

几乎不能说没预计到微机的影响不是教育家的错...

这样翻译可以吗？怪怪的，不知道hardly怎么翻译。

作者: carolhide 时间: 2006-1-19 09:10

OG上说

只有at fault for 是习惯用法，C中的fault用法是不正确的。

“几乎不能说没预计到微机的影响是教育家的错。”

去掉个不。

作者: Evelyn2005 时间: 2006-1-19 13:29
carolhide翻译的更准确一些。hardly本身就是否定的意思。

作者: wujiaying 时间: 2006-2-7 00:06
个人意见：我认为c改变了原句的重心，c句的重心在educators，而d的重心在educators犯错这件事情上。不知这样理解对不对？

作者: wild 时间: 2006-3-11 11:37
I agree with 8th floor. That was what I thought to eliminate C.

作者: 当当84 时间: 2006-5-29 17:43

答案给的解释不是很理解:

B: Can hardly be said to be at fault does not grammatically complete the subordinate clause.

这里，subject: that...technology

verb: can hardly be said to be

哪里句子不完整？

作者: ProfCPA 时间: 2006-6-8 06:03

1. fault, means RESPONSIBLITY here instead of STH WRONG.

e.g: I think the owners are at fault for not warning us. (Advanced Oxford, 6th edtion)

2. B: The subject is "that .... ".

It is the "educators" that can be said to be at fault, not the whole clause.

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作者: hawkinsxie 时间: 2006-6-8 07:59

it is the fault of educators who have not

You cannot use 'who' to modifier fault, therefore, 'that' is a must. C is wrong.

作者: scujean 时间: 2006-7-4 10:19
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=23&ID=27711

作者: Winbolin 时间: 2006-8-15 10:33

OG11 for 答案E: "....the inverted construction does not successfully convey the meaning of the sentence."

我感覺不出來The fact that......can hardly be said 如何change the meaning? Could somebody help?

作者: Winbolin 时间: 2006-9-11 19:41

如第
                        14
                        楼同樣的問題, og 說 E: ....the inverted construction does not successfully convey the meaning of the sentence." 是什麼意思呢？
                    如何改變句意？

作者: 足球幽灵 时间: 2006-9-19 17:18

以下是引用当当84在2006-5-29 17:43:00的发言：

答案给的解释不是很理解:

B: Can hardly be said to be at fault does not grammatically complete the subordinate clause.

这里，subject: that...technology

verb: can hardly be said to be

哪里句子不完整？

同问，顶起来

作者: 足球幽灵 时间: 2006-9-22 09:04

以下是引用足球幽灵在2006-9-19 17:18:00的发言：

同问，顶起来

再问呵呵

作者: magico 时间: 2006-9-22 11:54

为什么不可以用完成时态？？？？

此外E为什么不可以？？？

作者: magico 时间: 2006-9-22 11:55

哦，看错了

完成时态不可以用，呵呵。

E为什么不可以呢？？

作者: cccccc0 时间: 2006-10-21 20:59

upupupupupup怎么现在都没人讨论了

作者: cccccc0 时间: 2006-10-21 21:05

B中为什么"can hardly be said to be at fault" does not grammatically complete the subordinate clause????他后面不是分号么？怎么还不能complete the sbuordinate clause

E中为什么不能successfuly convey the meaning of the sentence呢？？？？？

upuupupupupupupup

作者: 叽里咕噜 时间: 2006-10-24 04:45

以下是引用hawkinsxie在2006-6-8 7:59:00的发言：

it is the fault of educators who have not

You cannot use 'who' to modifier fault, therefore, 'that' is a must. C is wrong.

我明白这个解释，可是我还是觉得C的这个地方读得很顺啊定语从句“who...”不能就近修饰educators嘛？

麻烦点拨一下了，谢谢！

作者: 卡卡元 时间: 2006-12-21 21:22
这题除了 at fault的习惯用法以外abc的错误根og得解释都没懂

作者: fd983314 时间: 2006-12-21 23:08

A的意思：这件事是educator的错。错误。it指代了前面整句话；GMAT的典型错误之一。

B的意思：这件事不能说是错了。不知道是谁的错。错误。

C的意思：没什么像样的意思。第二个it根本没有指代的对象

D的意思：没有预测到不是教育家的错。正确。

E的意思：事实不能被说。完全混乱。

作者: yaoshuming 时间: 2007-1-17 17:58

搞不清楚这道题的A选项的解释，Inverting the usual order results in an ungrammatical construction in which the main verb is both preceded and followed by a subordinate clause，不清楚这个样子不可以吗？

作者: jellysun 时间: 2007-2-21 00:18

以下是引用seasnow在2006-1-18 13:58:00的发言：

(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault

我觉得这里的主语从句和宾语从句中的it有重复之嫌

(B) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault

这里的主语是That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology，其余的部分can hardly be said to be at fault，那么句意是这个事件to be at fault，逻辑上就说不通，因为应该to be at fault的其实

是educators

(C) It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology

这里who从句修饰educators，这样这个句子说at fault的是educators，但是没有说明那些educators是由于who从句中的事件at fault的

(D) It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology

(E) The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said

主语太长，头重脚轻；the fact累赘

感觉C比较顺口。这道题怎么做呢？

一点想法欢迎指正^ ^

作者: misiachen 时间: 2007-4-29 14:56
楼上解释得很详细。

作者: Sacramento_CA 时间: 2007-6-1 11:16
这题OG的解释看了半天没看懂，26楼解释比较详细，先谢一个

作者: ssl507 时间: 2007-6-19 16:56

D:正确答案.的意思是:没有估计到技术影响的教育家at fault.句子重点是有没有估计到是不是at fault

C.的意思是没有估计到技术的影响是教育家at fault，句子重点是澄清到底是谁at fault.

E的重点是the fact that ....是不是can hardly be said.

所以C和E都改变了句子重心，so distorts the meaning of the sentence

作者: audreychenjj 时间: 2007-7-24 22:27

OG解释还说也可以用That引导从句做句子的主语,只不过容易出错,有没有牛人帮忙把A或B改写成正确的结构阿?就是用That引导从句做句子主语.

谢谢

作者: aoteman 时间: 2007-8-5 21:48
我的理解：1that...verb that…错误。a错。2习惯搭配sb be at fault,sth be at fault错。所以b错。3这个人不可能错。而是这个人做的事情错误了。fault of educator错误。c错。4the fact be said错误。e措。

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作者: spyder1011 时间: 2007-8-30 15:41

综合以下，加入点我的理解：

A. 错在没有说清楚到底是什么can hardly be said. 这是一个普通句和强调句混用了:That...can hardly be said和It can hardly be said that..其实是一样的。但A把这两种形式都结合起来变成了That...can hardly be said that...，是错误而且有歧义的。OG上说的是Although it is possible to begin a sentence with subordinate clause beginning with that, this inverted construction often results in errors such as those found here.所以这种形式要慎选

B. 形式上是对了，但是A里面说的是their fault，所以逻辑上后面的选项也应该强调是educators的fault，而本句里面at fault的是That后面引导的整个丛句这件事。所以B歪曲了意思，不对

C. 比较迷惑。不考虑时态的问题。首先把动作的发出者educators放在后面这种形式就很不好，明明可以说成educators要负责任，倒过来说成责任要由educator来负，中文里也少用，对比了D就知道这种表达很不简练不是优选。其次，who没有揭示因果关系。本句的因果关系是：不能说，不能说什么呢：educator有fault，为什么有fault呢，因为他们没有anticipate。但是who只说明了educator没有anticipate这件事，并没有说明和前面fault的关系。所以脱节了。错。

D. 简洁，原因结果清楚，是educator负责逻辑关系正确，没有不对的时态

E. The fact是多余的，可以直接用that引导主语丛句。如上，逻辑关系是不能说educator有fault，而不是不能说一个事实：educator是有fault的。否则就正好弄反了，原文是说educator实际是没有错误的，因此才不能这样说，而不是说他们有错误。真要那样还不能说不是要反言论自由，麻烦就大了。

作者: yichousun 时间: 2007-10-28 20:07
楼上的解释比较好！

作者: dormousedzc 时间: 2007-11-11 15:11

it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology

这个句子到底是否正确?

如果不正确,要如何改才能成为一个正确的强调句呢?请大牛指点.

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作者: lijiahui0422 时间: 2007-12-13 10:47
标题: 回复：（ssl507）D:正确答案.的意思是:没有估计到技术...
我中意你的解释

作者: lijiahui0422 时间: 2007-12-13 11:12

我觉得32楼说的一语中第区分c和d从句意上讲有着不同的侧重点

c 如果把修饰语都去掉会翻译出“某一种educators的错误不好说” 感觉话好像说了一半很别扭

d 翻译出来是 “(那些educators没有预料到微机技术影响是一个错误)这件事，很不好说 " 明了很多

再就是把c的倒装还原成初始状态 (That it is 。。。。microcomputer technology) can hardly be said 主语就不是一件事情有点乱套

个人理解感谢楼顶朋友们的启发！

作者: lydiajiali 时间: 2008-1-28 23:06
斗胆说一句，我觉得真正的错误不在于是否理解句子里到底是什么事实．．．的错误，还是个人的错误，或者是怎么表达这个错误。而是语法上错了。我这么说是不是把大家都说晕了。但是ＯＧ的解释就是这样的。虽然我没有看大懂．ＯＧ的解释是这样的

Although it is possible to begin a sentence with a subordinate clause beginning with that this inverted construction often results in errors such as those found here. In the original sentence, the subordinate clause that.....technology is followed by the main verb, can ...be said, but then the verb is followed by yet another subordinate clause, that it is their fault. The best way to solve this problem is by putting the sentence in the expected order, with the main clause It can hardly be said preceding the subordinate clause (that...). 这解释是什么意思呢？

而且Ｂ的解释很明确的说是语法上的错误，其实我Ｂ的解释也没有看懂．Ｂ为什么不对了？说从句不完整？什么意思？谁可以帮忙呢？那

作者: ejbchang 时间: 2008-2-6 17:56
先祝大家新年快乐!

作者: ejbchang 时间: 2008-2-6 18:20

我查了一下LOGMAN DICTIONARY

fault : responsibility for mistake.

eg: I didn't sleep well that night, but it was my own fault.

Be sb's fault for doing sth

eg: It's my fault for not making your new job clearer.

At fault: if someone is at fault ,they are responsible for sth bad that was happened

eg: Some people claim that it is the UN that is at fault.

The choices C 扭曲原意. 这是(没有估计到.........的影响的)教育家的错. 限定了教育家的范围.还有别的教育家.而原意要表达的是(正如 D 中所说): 教育家对没有估计到.........的影响是有过错的.

至于OG说:"it also lacks completion". 我的解释是这样的: C 中THAT 后面是一个强调句型.比如这样举例你就明白了,下面的句子你一看就知道没有完成: It is the UN . 你就不知道要表达什么意思. 如果补全你就明白了:It is the UN that is at fault. C said: It can hardly be said that (it is the fault of educators
who have not anticpated the impact of microcomputer technology).

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作者: birmingman 时间: 2008-2-9 00:39

longman对fault的解释是：

1
▶RESPONSIBLE FOR MISTAKE◀
if something bad that has happened is your fault, you should be blamed for it, because you made a mistake or failed to do something
I'm really sorry - it's all my fault.
be somebody's fault (that)
It's your fault we're late.
I didn't sleep well that night, but it was my own fault .
be somebody's fault for doing something
It’s my fault for not making your new job clearer.
2
at fault
if someone is at fault, they are responsible for something bad that has happened
The police said that the other driver was at fault. Some people claim that it is the UN that is at fault.
3
▶SOMETHING WRONG WITH SOMETHING◀
a) something that is wrong with a machine, system, design etc, which prevents it from working properly
a design fault
fault in
It sounds as if there's a fault in one of the loudspeakers.
b) something that is wrong with something, which could be improved
ￚsynonym flawThere are two serious faults in Hobsbawm's discussion of nationalism. For all its faults (=in spite of its faults) we love this city.
c) a mistake in the way that something was made, which spoils its appearance
fault in
The sweater had a fault in it and I had to take it back.
4
▶SOMEBODY'S CHARACTER◀
a bad or weak part of someone's character
His worst fault is his arrogance. I may have my faults , but ingratitude is not one of them. For all his faults (=in spite of his faults) he was a good father.
5
through no fault of her/my etc own
used to say that something bad that happened to someone was not caused by them
Through no fault of our own we are currently two players short.
6
▶CRACK◀
a large crack in the rocks that form the Earth's surface
the San Andreas fault in Northern California
7
generous/loyal/honest etc to a fault
extremely generous, kind etc
Barry's kind, caring and generous to a fault.
8
▶TENNIS◀
a mistake made when a player is serving the ball in tennis
ￚsee also double fault, find fault with somebody/something atfind1 (14)

貌似没有the fault of sb的用法，只有be sb's fault

只想说明这个，其他的还望大家讨论

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作者: 卖菜熊 时间: 2008-3-21 08:14

疑问同37楼的MM。

觉得前面的解释都是从句意和逻辑上讲的，但OG上的考点就是Grammatical construction。

尤其是B的解释看不懂，如果不是be at fault的用法错，那应该怎么排除呢？OG上说是“can hardly be said to be at fault” does not grammatically complete the subordinate clause.

请NN指教。

作者: gracie495824 时间: 2008-7-21 22:43
非常不理解，还请高人指点！！！

作者: rhine521 时间: 2008-8-1 02:41

我不是NN

我的理解是：

1 That......technology 是 can hardly be said的主语,但是这个主语太长，头重脚轻，所以用形式主语it代替，应该是It can be said that......

2 saidu后面由that引导出一个宾语从句，所以OG说can ...be said是主语的谓语动词

3 原文中said后面由that引导的宾从的主语it指代的是not antisipate......这一句话，their指代的是educators

所以按照以上步骤替换下就是答案，而且OG说主句的从句应该在从句从句之前

这题真绕

大家凑合看哈

作者: rockmax 时间: 2008-8-28 17:34

said to be 是"据说"的意思. 以改变句意.

另外: B : Can hardly be said to be at fault does not grammatically complete the suordinate clause

suordinate clause 应该是:Alvin toffler,....之后的句子. 应该是逻辑上与后面的句子有不合吧! 反正这句很怪, 大家好好看看.

作者: baishi7948 时间: 2008-9-24 00:57

up up

作者: 5m21 时间: 2008-10-30 00:42

看了半天也没看出这题意思是 “几乎能说没预计到微机的影响是教育家的错。”啊，

hardly不是几乎不的意思吗，那it can hardly be said 应该翻译成 ‘几乎不能说’啊？

要是几乎能说的意思，不应该用it can almost be said 了？

另外为什么用一般现在时？事情繁盛在过去应该用一般过去时were啊

作者: didiflute 时间: 2009-2-10 10:37

我个人理解C选项的错在于：改变了句子的意思。c项的意思就是说，it is the fault of （一部分）没有预测到微电脑技术的影响的educators的错。who是修饰educators的，也就是给educators限定了范围。也就是是暗指只是一部分educators没有预测到，另外一部分却预测到了的。而这错误就应该归咎于那些没有预测到的educators身上。

不知道这么理解对不对？大家都多探讨探讨吧~~~

作者: fishlibai 时间: 2009-7-1 03:29

我的问题是，OG解释说，that 放在句首引导从句，容易导致错误，是什么样的错误呢？

That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that
it is their fault:
Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970.

头重脚轻，然后theri指代不明？

句式混乱？

哪个牛牛指点一下

作者: cjwbhu 时间: 2009-7-7 05:19

我也赞同是从语法角度来解决这道题，而不是在逻辑上fault啥啥啥的有点绕哈。

A，that... can hardly be said that...,我们可不可以把它还原成主动形式，变成say that... that...,而OG上也说是一个不合语法的结构——在一个句子里，由一个谓语动词衔接主语从句和宾语从句。中文中我们可以理解，可是老外来看就是一个句子被说一个句子。。。

B，can hardly be said to be at fault，没有语法上的完成这个从句，我们还原成主动看，say that to be at fault,say 我在langman上没有查到say sth to do的用法。

C，wordy，that it is... who have not 可以更简洁，至于awkward,我觉得是把这个强调句还原变成that it is the fault can hardly be said, 这个it指代什么？弄不清楚，而这也曲解了原句意思，变成了错误很难说清楚，而不是教育者没有预计到微机技术的影响力很难不说是他们的错误的原意了。

E，除了the fact,我觉得这个结构很大的弱点在anticipating上，这个不是原意中的have not anticipatied所要表达的完成时的意义了，OG很多题目重视动作的时态性，比如39,就以extending表达持续意思秒杀了其余选项。

open to discuss.

作者: cjwbhu 时间: 2009-7-7 05:27

更改一下上面E，还是由于事实是错误，更曲解一点，我发现D也是anticipating....

作者: xiaofan1016 时间: 2009-9-2 12:41

That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault

画线部分是主语如果用A代替的话就是 A can hardly be said 就是一个完整的句子了顶多就在能加一个 by us

主动的话就是 we can hardly say A

所以that it is their fault 放在这就不知道是什么成分了

作者: nancyhearste 时间: 2010-7-22 04:03
试图解释下B选项：
fault后跟for来清楚地说明fault的原因，而B中that...can hardly be said to be at fault后面会让人expect错误的原因，即that...can hardly be said to be at fault for doing sth. 需要加for doing sth. 来完成这个句子，而that引导的句子不能充当for后面的内容，会导致选项B does not grammatically complete the subordinate clause.

作者: 红尘道士 时间: 2010-7-22 07:06

That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault
画线部分是主语如果用A代替的话就是 A can hardly be said 就是一个完整的句子了顶多就在能加一个 by us
主动的话就是 we can hardly say A
所以that it is their fault 放在这就不知道是什么成分了

-- by 会员 xiaofan1016 (2009/9/2 12:41:00)

同意这个解释
关键是被动语态，A can hardly be said B
就好象a car is drived a car肯定是不对的

作者: 红尘道士 时间: 2010-7-22 07:08

试图解释下B选项：
fault后跟for来清楚地说明fault的原因，而B中that...can hardly be said to be at fault后面会让人expect错误的原因，即that...can hardly be said to be at fault for doing sth. 需要加for doing sth. 来完成这个句子，而that引导的句子不能充当for后面的内容，会导致选项B does not grammatically complete the subordinate clause.

-- by 会员 nancyhearste (2010/7/22 4:03:24)

同意你的说法，fault的用法遇到过还几次，我的归纳是
you are fault是正确的
you are at fault错误，句子不完整
一定要you are at fault for doing sth

作者: 红尘道士 时间: 2010-7-22 08:39

-- by 会员 nancyhearste (2010/7/22 4:03:24)

同意你的说法，fault的用法遇到过还几次，我的归纳是
you are fault是正确的
you are at fault错误，句子不完整
一定要you are at fault for doing sth

-- by 会员红尘道士 (2010/7/22 7:08:57)

补充一点想法
系动词可以加形容词和介词短语作表语
那么fault形容词，at fault介词作表语有什么区别？
you are fault，fault是形容you主语的
you are at fault for doing sth，at fault是形容for doing的
所以you are at fault，fault不能形容主语，后面又没有修饰的东西，句子就不完整了

作者: nancyhearste 时间: 2010-7-30 06:58

-- by 会员 nancyhearste (2010/7/22 4:03:24)

同意你的说法，fault的用法遇到过还几次，我的归纳是
you are fault是正确的
you are at fault错误，句子不完整
一定要you are at fault for doing sth

-- by 会员红尘道士 (2010/7/22 7:08:57)

-- by 会员红尘道士 (2010/7/22 8:39:51)

强烈同意，清楚地解释了为什么OG说B选项是incomplete的

作者: kily8878860 时间: 2010-9-22 09:28
That educators have not anticipated the impact of
microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it
is their fault
小弟我想问一下这里it指代That educators have not anticipated the impact of
microcomputer technology 有问题么，it指代主语从句似乎不对啊，但是看这里前辈们都没有提到
难道是这里的it只是一个形式主语？
大家能不能解答一下
谢谢了

作者: linfeng87 时间: 2010-10-24 17:52

-- by 会员 nancyhearste (2010/7/22 4:03:24)

同意你的说法，fault的用法遇到过还几次，我的归纳是
you are fault是正确的
you are at fault错误，句子不完整
一定要you are at fault for doing sth

-- by 会员红尘道士 (2010/7/22 7:08:57)

既然如此，那么朗文中的这些句子作何解呢？
2 at fault if someone is at fault, they are responsiblefor something bad that has happened :

The police saidthat the other driver was at fault.

Some people claimthat it is the UN that is at fault.

同意spyder1011#31的解释，较为合理

作者: pye34878 时间: 2011-5-26 00:06
标题: 请教~

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想请教下A项能否这样理解：
57. That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault: Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention
microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970.
that引导主语从句后跟主谓语can be said；can be said之后的that从句作said的宾语从句，OG中的结构问题在哪里？一个主谓语不能连接两个完整从句？且倒装形式（？）不够直接？

作者: pye34878 时间: 2011-5-26 23:33
顶一个~

作者: tallhermit 时间: 2011-8-18 00:58
个人看法，仅供大家参考~~

解析：
A 这件事是educator的错，it代替了前面的一整句话，是GMAT典型错误之一。
B 这事情很难说是错了，谁的错？没说清楚，不知道。
C 一方面偏离原句重心，另一方面第二个it并无具体的指代！，
D 不能说educator没有预测到是有错的，at fault是有过错的意思，常用，故而正确
E 翻译过来就是“the fact是不能说的”，完全混乱背离原文意思。

作者: pterosaur 时间: 2011-8-18 10:54
50. That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it their fault: Aivin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970.

(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault

that...be said that...这种结构是不合理的，此外it指代前面的that从句，that里面套that，而且指代不清的做法，是GMAT考试中不可能成为正确答案的明确标识。

(B) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault

被动语态不是首选； at fault修饰的不是that从句，而是at fault修饰的应该是educators；

(C) It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology

it...that it is ...it重复，并且指代对象不对，首先排除；

(D) It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology

正确答案一定是调理清晰，并且不会出现误会的地方。
(E) The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said

头重脚轻，主语离谓语太长，容易引起误会。无端增加了the fact，没有道理。

作者: Suri在奋斗 时间: 2012-2-1 00:31

50. That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it their fault: Aivin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970.

(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault

that...be said that...这种结构是不合理的，此外it指代前面的that从句，that里面套that，而且指代不清的做法，是GMAT考试中不可能成为正确答案的明确标识。

(B) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault

被动语态不是首选； at fault修饰的不是that从句，而是at fault修饰的应该是educators；

(C) It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology

it...that it is ...it重复，并且指代对象不对，首先排除；

(D) It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology

正确答案一定是调理清晰，并且不会出现误会的地方。
(E) The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said

头重脚轻，主语离谓语太长，容易引起误会。无端增加了the fact，没有道理。

-- by 会员 pterosaur (2011/8/18 10:54:39)

赞，it不能指代一句话，我前几天的搞错了~~！！！！记住！！收获很大~~！！

作者: Suri在奋斗 时间: 2012-2-1 00:58
又重新看了下前面的讨论帖，不知道是不是现在头晕的缘故还是迷惑了
1.首先 sb is at fault到底对不对，非得是sb is at fault for doing sth
2.b 的og解释说 does not compete the subordinate是什么意思
网nn解释~~！！

作者: babybearmm 时间: 2012-2-1 05:54
Suri我来回答你的问题吧，欢迎探讨

1. sb. is at fault 对的
贴个American Heritage Dictionary的解说吧：
at fault
Responsible for a mistake, trouble, or failure; deserving blame. For example, At least three cars were involved in the accident, so it was hard to determine which driver was at fault , or He kept missing the target and wondered if the sight on his new rifle was at fault . In Britain this usage was formerly considered incorrect but is now acceptable; in America it has been widespread since the mid-1800s. Also see in the wrong.
btw：这个线上字典很好的，大量的英英解释、词源、例句，强烈推荐
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/at+fault

2.
(B) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
看出来了吧？提炼下主干，就能发现这句话有2个谓语动词“打架”，中间既没有连词也没有标点隔开，也没有写成that从句。
OG：Can hardly be said to be at fault does not grammatically complete the subordinate clause.
是说，后面以can为核心的部分并不能构成一个从句。嗯，就是我刚说的意思。

这题就是Ron说的textbook-perfect case，诠释了什么时候it必须明确指代，什么时候是作为placeholder。我这里再贴以下Ron的总结，见下。

根据Ron的总结：
(A) ... can hardly be said that it is their fault.
这个it必须明确指代，因为"it is their fault"后面没有东西。从意思上看，it也无法理解。
(C) It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology
且不说这句子awkward, wordy....
第一个it属于placeholder (Pattern #1)，没问题
第二个it有问题，指代不明
It is the fault of educators who .....
从意思上想，"who..."从句定义了educators，但你仍然不知道it指的是什么，什么东西是"the fault of educators".
注意这不符合Pattern #3:
It + (TO BE verb) + NOUN + that/who + verb

attern #3 要求 the fault of educators 是后面那个从句（who .....）的主语，换句话说，后面从句定义这个noun.但显然不满足。
我觉得以下两个句子（我编的）语法就没问题，这里it是作为placeholder (Pattern #3)
It is the negligent educators who ....
It is the fault of educators that is caused by educators who ....
不过这第二个句子不太简洁....我只是想说划线部分要能够充当后面那个从句的主语
(D) It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology
这里it就没问题，作为placeholder (Pattern #1)

以下from Ron

THE ONLY PRONOUNS ON THE GMAT THAT DON'T HAVE TO STANDFOR NOUNS:
It + description+ that +complete sentence (independent clause)
It + description+ to +verb (infinitive)
It + (TOBE verb) + NOUN + that/who + verb

these "it"s DO NOT have to stand for nouns.
ALL other gmat pronouns must stand for nouns.

FIRST TYPE

It + is obvious + that Medellín will beat Nacional in Wednesday’s game.

It+ has been said + that the moon is made of green cheese.

Johnny found it + counterintuitive + that the GMAT tests exceptions to rules just as often as it teststhe rules themselves.

SECOND TYPE

It + is often difficult + to distinguish between a past-tense verb and a pastparticiple.

The rain made it + quite challenging + to drive on the freeway.

THIRD TYPE

It + was my own brother + who committed the crime.

又重新看了下前面的讨论帖，不知道是不是现在头晕的缘故还是迷惑了
1.首先 sb is at fault到底对不对，非得是sb is at fault for doing sth
2.b 的og解释说 does not compete the subordinate是什么意思
网nn解释~~！！

-- by 会员 Suri在奋斗 (2012/2/1 0:58:55)

作者: Suri在奋斗 时间: 2012-2-1 10:04

Suri我来回答你的问题吧，欢迎探讨

1. sb. is at fault 对的
贴个American Heritage Dictionary的解说吧：
atfault
Responsible for a mistake, trouble, or failure; deserving blame. For example, At least three cars were involved in the accident, so it was hard to determine which driver was at fault , or He kept missing the target and wondered if the sight on his new riflewas at fault. In Britain this usage was formerly considered incorrect but is now acceptable; in America it has been widespread since the mid-1800s. Also see in the wrong.
btw：这个线上字典很好的，大量的英英解释、词源、例句，强烈推荐
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/at+fault

2.
(B) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
看出来了吧？提炼下主干，就能发现这句话有2个谓语动词“打架”，中间既没有连词也没有标点隔开，也没有写成that从句。
OG：Can hardly be said to be at fault does not grammatically complete the subordinate clause.
是说，后面以can为核心的部分并不能构成一个从句。嗯，就是我刚说的意思。

这题就是Ron说的textbook-perfect case，诠释了什么时候it必须明确指代，什么时候是作为placeholder。我这里再贴以下Ron的总结，见下。

根据Ron的总结：
(A) ... can hardly be said that it is their fault.
这个it必须明确指代，因为"it is their fault"后面没有东西。从意思上看，it也无法理解。
(C) It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology
且不说这句子awkward, wordy....
第一个it属于placeholder (Pattern #1)，没问题
第二个it有问题，指代不明
It is the fault of educatorswho .....
从意思上想，"who..."从句定义了educators，但你仍然不知道it指的是什么，什么东西是"the fault of educators".
注意这不符合Pattern #3:
It + (TO BE verb) + NOUN + that/who + verb

-- by 会员 Suri在奋斗 (2012/2/1 0:58:55)

-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/2/1 5:54:03)

That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
看出来了吧？提炼下主干，就能发现这句话有2个谓语动词“打架”，中间既没有连词也没有标点隔开，也没有写成that从句。
OG：Can hardly be said to be at fault does not grammatically complete the subordinate clause.
是说，后面以can为核心的部分并不能构成一个从句。嗯，就是我刚说的意思。

但如果这样来看这个句子That educators have not anticipated thr impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
黄色部分是that引导的主语从句，这样，2个谓语动词倒也不矛盾
我这样看这个句子，主干有了，谓语宾语有了，明明觉得很完整，不知道og为什么还说不完整

关于it的指代，谢谢姐姐~~懂啦
it

作者: babybearmm 时间: 2012-2-1 13:10
黄色部分不能充当主语从句
That educators have not anticipated thr impact of microcomputer technology
因为这里的主干：educators have not anticipated impact
主谓宾是齐全的

如果要让它当主语从句，要改为：
The educators who have not anticipated thr impact of microcomputer technology
这样整个这部分只有唯一的中心词——educators，来充当全句的主语。这样才能算主语从句。

但如果这样来看这个句子That educators have not anticipated thr impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
黄色部分是that引导的主语从句，这样，2个谓语动词倒也不矛盾
我这样看这个句子，主干有了，谓语宾语有了，明明觉得很完整，不知道og为什么还说不完整

关于it的指代，谢谢姐姐~~懂啦
it
-- by 会员 Suri在奋斗 (2012/2/1 10:04:19)

作者: Suri在奋斗 时间: 2012-2-1 13:43

不对呢，看一个句子是什么作用要看句子在一整个句子中做什么成分，比如定语从句，因为是修饰所修饰的名词，所以充当一个形容词的成分，姐姐举得那个例子
The educators who have not anticipated thr impact of microcomputer technology
这句话还是个定语从句，因为who····s是来修饰educators，说明educators是什么是educators在这个定语从句里面充当了主语~~~假如我们知道educators是谁，把who从句去掉就成了the educators不是一个句子

在百度百科里面搜了几个概念

主语从句
常规主语从句，即句子在复合句中充当一个主语　　主语从句的时态：不受主句的时态影响和限制。　　（1）That he finished writing the composition in such a short time surprisedus all. 　　（2）Whether we will go for an outing tomorrow remains unknown. 　　（3）Who will be our monitor hasn't been decided yet. 　　（4） Whom we must study for is a question of great importance. 　　（5）What caused the accident remains unknown. 　　（6）Whatever you did is right. 　　（7）Who the watch belongs to was lost is unknown. 　　（8）What we need is time. 　　（9）What we need are good doctors. 　　小结: 　　（1)引导主语从句连词有that,whether,who,what,whatever等　　（2)连词位于句首不能省略　　（3)主语从句大多数情况下视为第三人称单数,但也有例外,如例（9）
上面用黄色标记的是一整个句子充当了主语，蓝色谓语，绿色宾语

第二部分
　　为了防止句子头重脚轻，通常把形式主语it放在句首位置，真正主语搁置于句末　　（1）It is certain that he will win the match. 　　（2）It is true that he has made a very important discovery in chemistry. 　　（3）It is very likely that they will hold a meeting. 　　（4）It is strange that he should do that. 　　（5）It is important that we all should attend the meeting. 　　（6）It is strange that the man should have stuck to his silly ideas. 　　（7）It is a pity that we won't be able to go to the south to spend our summer vacation. 　　（8）It is still a mystery what caused the accident. 　　（9）It is said that he has gone to shanghai.(=He is said to have gone to shanghai) 　　（10）It is known to all that the gun powder was first invented by the Chinese. 　　（11）It is suggested that the work should be done with great care. 　　（12）It happened that the two cheats were there. (=The two cheats happened to be there) 　　小结: 　　（1）为避免头重脚轻,常以形式主语it引导从句. It+形式主语谓语+从句. 　　（2）由于主语从句一般被认为是单数形式，形式主语的谓语动词、be动词+表语均为单数第三人称形式或过去式.

再看定语从句
定语从句（Attributive Clauses）在句中做定语，修饰一个名词或代词，被修饰的名词,词组或代词即先行词。定语从句通常出现在先行词之后，由关系词（关系代词或关系副词）引出。

在句子中起名词作用的句子叫名词性从句 (Noun Clauses）。名词性从句的功能相当于名词词组, 它在复合句中能担任主语、宾语、表语、同位语、介词宾语等，因此根据它在句中不同的语法功能，名词性从句又可分别称为主语从句、宾语从句、表语从句和同位语从句。

作者: babybearmm 时间: 2012-2-1 14:48
谢谢suri~~我学到了
我确实说错了，中文语法没学好，反应不过来“主语从句”....

作者: babybearmm 时间: 2012-2-1 16:17
B) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault.

这话，如果照suri dd的理解，前面那块儿是个主语从句，那么不能作为"be at fault"的逻辑主语(educators)，把"at fault"改成"their fault"，语法上就对了，然后剩下awkward的问题....

作者: Suri在奋斗 时间: 2012-2-3 11:35

B) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault.

这话，如果照suri dd的理解，前面那块儿是个主语从句，那么不能作为"be at fault"的逻辑主语(educators)，把"at fault"改成"their fault"，语法上就对了，然后剩下awkward的问题....

-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/2/1 16:17:57)

恩恩~~！！

作者: ptlove4ever 时间: 2012-2-3 11:54
这是12版OG原题。
首先，由于that引导的主语从句过长，造成头重脚轻，必须使用形式主语it来代替，在后面用that引出真正的主语，所以ABE错。
其次，因为C中是从句套从句的写法，太混乱，容易让人疑惑原句要表达的意思，所以排除C。

作者: Suri在奋斗 时间: 2012-2-3 12:01

这是12版OG原题。
首先，由于that引导的主语从句过长，造成头重脚轻，必须使用形式主语it来代替，在后面用that引出真正的主语，所以ABE错。
其次，因为C中是从句套从句的写法，太混乱，容易让人疑惑原句要表达的意思，所以排除C。

-- by 会员 ptlove4ever (2012/2/3 11:54:14)

作者: Hyo1ee 时间: 2012-5-10 16:30
唉。。。我还是不明白为什么"That....can hardly be said to be at fault..."是incomplete

作者: nihongmeng 时间: 2012-9-8 15:30
弱弱问一句，什么是TObe verb？

作者: nihongmeng 时间: 2012-9-8 15:47

Suri我来回答你的问题吧，欢迎探讨

1. sb. is at fault 对的
贴个American Heritage Dictionary的解说吧：
atfault
Responsible for a mistake, trouble, or failure; deserving blame. For example, At least three cars were involved in the accident, so it was hard to determine which driver was at fault , or He kept missing the target and wondered if the sight on his new riflewas at fault. In Britain this usage was formerly considered incorrect but is now acceptable; in America it has been widespread since the mid-1800s. Also see in the wrong.
btw：这个线上字典很好的，大量的英英解释、词源、例句，强烈推荐
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/at+fault

2.
(B) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
看出来了吧？提炼下主干，就能发现这句话有2个谓语动词“打架”，中间既没有连词也没有标点隔开，也没有写成that从句。
OG：Can hardly be said to be at fault does not grammatically complete the subordinate clause.
是说，后面以can为核心的部分并不能构成一个从句。嗯，就是我刚说的意思。

这题就是Ron说的textbook-perfect case，诠释了什么时候it必须明确指代，什么时候是作为placeholder。我这里再贴以下Ron的总结，见下。

根据Ron的总结：
(A) ... can hardly be said that it is their fault.
这个it必须明确指代，因为"it is their fault"后面没有东西。从意思上看，it也无法理解。
(C) It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology
且不说这句子awkward, wordy....
第一个it属于placeholder (Pattern #1)，没问题
第二个it有问题，指代不明
It is the fault of educatorswho .....
从意思上想，"who..."从句定义了educators，但你仍然不知道it指的是什么，什么东西是"the fault of educators".
注意这不符合Pattern #3:
It + (TO BE verb) + NOUN + that/who + verb

-- by 会员 Suri在奋斗 (2012/2/1 0:58:55)

-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/2/1 5:54:03)

baby姐啊，这个to be verb是指系动词吗？

作者: abjure 时间: 2012-9-8 19:20

Suri我来回答你的问题吧，欢迎探讨

1. sb. is at fault 对的
贴个American Heritage Dictionary的解说吧：
atfault
Responsible for a mistake, trouble, or failure; deserving blame. For example, At least three cars were involved in the accident, so it was hard to determine which driver was at fault , or He kept missing the target and wondered if the sight on his new riflewas at fault. In Britain this usage was formerly considered incorrect but is now acceptable; in America it has been widespread since the mid-1800s. Also see in the wrong.
btw：这个线上字典很好的，大量的英英解释、词源、例句，强烈推荐
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/at+fault

2.
(B) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
看出来了吧？提炼下主干，就能发现这句话有2个谓语动词“打架”，中间既没有连词也没有标点隔开，也没有写成that从句。
OG：Can hardly be said to be at fault does not grammatically complete the subordinate clause.
是说，后面以can为核心的部分并不能构成一个从句。嗯，就是我刚说的意思。

这题就是Ron说的textbook-perfect case，诠释了什么时候it必须明确指代，什么时候是作为placeholder。我这里再贴以下Ron的总结，见下。

根据Ron的总结：
(A) ... can hardly be said that it is their fault.
这个it必须明确指代，因为"it is their fault"后面没有东西。从意思上看，it也无法理解。
(C) It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology
且不说这句子awkward, wordy....
第一个it属于placeholder (Pattern #1)，没问题
第二个it有问题，指代不明
It is the fault of educatorswho .....
从意思上想，"who..."从句定义了educators，但你仍然不知道it指的是什么，什么东西是"the fault of educators".
注意这不符合Pattern #3:
It + (TO BE verb) + NOUN + that/who + verb

-- by 会员 Suri在奋斗 (2012/2/1 0:58:55)

-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/2/1 5:54:03)

baby姐啊，这个to be verb是指系动词吗？

-- by 会员 nihongmeng (2012/9/8 15:47:16)

is/are/was/were 这些都被称为 “to be” verb

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