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作者: seasnow 时间: 2006-1-14 07:18
标题: [讨论]OG11th-5

5. As its sales of computer products have surpass those of measuring instruments, the company become increasingly willing to compete for its market sales they would in the past have a to rivals.

(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals

(B) they would have conceded previously rivals

(D) it previously would have conceded to the past

(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

选E？

D中previously和the past重复，是吧？

作者: Evelyn2005 时间: 2006-1-14 07:43

以下是引用seasnow在2006-1-14 7:18:00的发言：

5. As its sales of computer products have surpass (surpassed ?) those of measuring instruments, the company become (becomes ?) increasingly willing to compete for its market sales they would in the past have a to rivals.

(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals

(B) they would have conceded previously rivals

(D) it previously would have conceded to the past

(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

选E？

D中previously和the past重复，是吧？

E seems to be the best answer. However, there might be some typos in the question (as marked in the text).

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作者: carolhide 时间: 2006-1-14 09:11

5. As tis sales of computer products have surpassed those of measuring instruments, the company has become increasingly willing to compete for the mass market sales they would in the past have conceded to rivals.

(A) they would in the past have conceded to rivals

(B) they would have conceded previously to their rivals

(D) it previously would have conceded to rivals in the past

(E) it would in the past have conceded to rivals

Agreement + Rhetorical construction

When a number of words intervene between a pronoun and its referent, an error such as the one in this sentence is easy to make. The subject of the main clause is the singular noun company, which must be followed by the singular pronoun it.

A lural pronoun they does not agree with singular the company

B lural pronoun they and their does not agree with the company

C Previously repeats the idea of in the past, the passive voice construction is weak an ambiguous

D Use of both previously and in the past is redundant

E Correct. In this concise sentence, the singular pronoun it agrees with the singular referent the company.

The correct answer is E.

作者: puccamummy 时间: 2006-2-6 01:26

以下是引用Evelyn2005在2006-1-14 7:43:00的发言：

E seems to be the best answer. However, there might be some typos in the question (as marked in the text).

我也这么认为，应该有一个分号之类的标点所以这题我还是觉得很奇怪的

作者: shinta42 时间: 2006-3-6 07:50
谢谢大家

作者: super_pig 时间: 2006-3-27 19:24

As its sales of computer products have surpass those of measuring instruments, the company become increasingly willing to compete for its market sales it would in the past have conceded to rivals .

这个句子的结构看不明白啊？感觉sales 和 it 之间少了一个that.

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=23&id=154414&star=1#1530065

在上面那个帖子找到了答案

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作者: tyoi 时间: 2006-4-24 16:47

答案E没有问题

但想请教一下为什么划线的部分要使用过去将来完成时would have conceded这种时态？

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作者: weiweiforever 时间: 2006-4-25 11:00
虚拟语气

作者: tyoi 时间: 2006-4-25 20:09
thanks

作者: WhistleLi 时间: 2006-6-5 00:32
thanks'

作者: scujean 时间: 2006-7-1 14:13

以下是引用tyoi在2006-4-24 16:47:00的发言：

答案E没有问题

但想请教一下为什么划线的部分要使用过去将来完成时would have conceded这种时态？

Would/may+ have+Vpp→表示推測過去的行為

作者: sephiroth 时间: 2006-8-3 18:50

同意楼上意见，这里根据句意，不应该是虚拟语气

作者: WQQ218 时间: 2006-10-4 20:12

想请问一下此题C选项为什么错了?

OG上列了两个原因:1."PREVIOUSLY" REPEATS THE IDEA OF "IN THE AST"

2.THE PASSIVE VOICE CONSTRUCTION IS WEAK AND AMBIGUOUS.

我就是没搞清楚第2条是什么意思?为什么AMBIGUOUS?

作者: jolspor 时间: 2006-10-5 11:17
thanks

作者: denne 时间: 2007-1-15 11:16

以下是引用WQQ218在2006-10-4 20:12:00的发言：

想请问一下此题C选项为什么错了?

OG上列了两个原因:1."PREVIOUSLY" REPEATS THE IDEA OF "IN THE AST"

2.THE PASSIVE VOICE CONSTRUCTION IS WEAK AND AMBIGUOUS.

我就是没搞清楚第2条是什么意思?为什么AMBIGUOUS?

同问，为什么是ambiguous?

作者: ganbaru 时间: 2007-8-5 03:57
个人感觉主动语态要比被动清楚明了，不知道对不对。

作者: elizabeth_xu 时间: 2007-8-24 17:05

个人感觉，A/B/D/E四个选项都是一个句子来修饰mass market sales （是不是叫主语从句？？还是名词性从句）,但是A/B中they和company不一致，而且previously 和in the past 重复。

但是c项中that 是引导一个定于从句来修饰mass market sales ，所以应该用被动。

请NN指教

作者: yichousun 时间: 2007-9-22 15:37

我觉得这里的that不能省略啊？

这里并没有在定语从句中做宾语呀!

作者: 下雨 时间: 2007-10-5 22:08

-- 作者：elizabeth_xu
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但是c项中that 是引导一个定于从句来修饰mass market sales ，所以应该用被动。

请NN指教

我不是nn, 说一下我做题的看法

c: ets说被动语态不清楚，我觉得是说mass market sales被让给竞争对手。这里容易搞不清楚，到底是谁使得mass market sales让步了，也就是动作施动者不清楚。

但是答案e, 主动语态，很清楚地说明的动作的发出者和接受者

做了一些og，发现ets不喜欢被动语态的表达方式，可能是因为施动者不清楚的原因

说的不对的地方，还请大家指正！

作者: yichousun 时间: 2007-10-6 21:45

以下是引用super_pig在2006-3-27 19:24:00的发言：

As its sales of computer products have surpass those of measuring instruments, the company become increasingly willing to compete for its market sales it would in the past have conceded to rivals .

这个句子的结构看不明白啊？感觉sales 和 it 之间少了一个that.

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=23&id=154414&star=1#1530065

在上面那个帖子找到了答案

版主说这里少了that。我不敢认同。其理由如下：

1 定语从句中that做宾语才可省略。在很多语法书都提到这点，应该是没有非议的。但这里的that做宾语吗？分析语法成分， it
                would
                in the past have
                conceded to
                rivals黄色部分做主语，绿色做谓语，蓝色做状语，紫色才是宾语，那么that做什么成分？不要说to rivals做不定式，concede to sb是idiom，就算是不定式，也是做宾语啊！！如果说做定语，那么that指代什么？that引导的从句限制了什么？

2 宾语从句中的that是不能省略的。但事实是省略了。

还请NN指教，open discuss.

作者: hopelanxyn 时间: 2008-1-9 01:34

应该是定语从句，但是先行词在从句中做宾语，所以省略了

concede sth. to sb.

作者: 竹叶生姿 时间: 2008-2-9 14:53

楼上说的对,concede 是这样用的.

作者: usamsy 时间: 2008-2-16 20:00

一、that用作代词，指上文提到的人或事物(单数名词)，且需一个后置定语来修饰，此时that不可省。
　　 Their cotton output of 1997 was double than that of 1987.
　　 Mary's handwriting is far better than that of Peter.
二、that用作连词，在so...that, such...that, in order that 等引导的状语从句中，that不可省。
　　 They started so early that they might arrive in time.
　　 It is such a heavy box that nobody can move it.
　　 He worked hard in order that he might catch up with the others.
三、that用作连词，引导主语从句时，当它放在主句谓语动词之前时，that不可省。
　　 That he came late made his teacher angry.
　　 That she was chosen made us very happy.
　　如用it作形式主语，把从句置于谓语动词之后时，that可以省略。例如：
　　 It is a pity(that) he has made such a mistake.
　　 It is obvious(that) he is right.
四、that用作连词，引导表语从句和同位语从句时，that不可省。
　　 The news that our team has won the match is true.
　　 My idea is that we should get more comrades to do t he work.
五、that用作连词，引导宾语从句时，如主句的谓语动词是及物动词make,find,see等时，且后有宾语补足语时，that引导的从句可置于宾语补足语之后，用it作形式宾语，此时that不可省。
　　 We find it necessary that he will succeed.
　　 He made it clear that he was not interested in this subject.
六、that用作关系代词，引导定语从句时，当它作为从句的主语时，that不可省。
　　 All that have to do is to practise every day.
　　 That's the same man that asked me for money yesterd ay.
　　但如that作从句的宾语时，that可省略。
　　 The letter(that) I received was from my father.
七、在强调句型 It iswas...that结构中，that不可省。
　　 It is English that Professor Li teaches us.
　　 It was in Shanghai that I saw the film.

我是菜鸟，还希望前辈们指导。

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作者: fdc8353 时间: 2008-2-17 02:49

很简单 in the past和previously意思重合了

它违反了GMAT里有效性的测试的原则

作者: cjwbhu 时间: 2008-7-20 22:48
这题我前三次一直是对的，然后忽略了，第四遍错了，发现了重要的 concede sth. to sb.!,谢谢nn们的解答！！！

作者: sky85 时间: 2008-7-23 17:23
可我还是不明白为什么要用would have conceded呢?这里是虚拟语气吗? 句子后半部分要怎么翻译阿? 恳请NN指教阿.

作者: yichousun 时间: 2008-8-16 20:06

以下是引用hopelanxyn在2008-1-9 1:34:00的发言：

应该是定语从句，但是先行词在从句中做宾语，所以省略了

concede sth. to sb.

这个用法倒是没有错。我倒是觉得这里不是定语从句，因为整个句子并没有限制mass market sales，而是在修饰前面became to compete的状态（我也不知道该怎么说）。

因此我认为这里是状语从句。但是状语从句的that能不能省还是没有找到根据。

作者: wangyi217 时间: 2008-11-22 14:13
第一次听说that引导状语从句........

作者: opensq 时间: 2009-3-6 22:59

以下是引用usamsy在2008-2-16 20:00:00的发言：

我是菜鸟，还希望前辈们指导。

thank you very much for your explain .~~~~~~~~~~~~~

作者: wzsgdtc 时间: 2009-5-25 10:57
原来是虚拟语气。。。懂了。。。这贴真好~大家讨论的真热烈~cd真是好山好水好地方呀~

作者: sisley2 时间: 2009-12-8 13:06
“would+have+done”虚拟语气，表示对过去事情的假设，意思是“本来会做”
也就是说这个公司现在会增加意愿来夺取那些它过去会让给竞争对手的大量市场销量。
而that在后面的从句中代替the mass market sales来充当conced sth to sb 中的宾语sth,因此that可以省略

作者: 朵拉 时间: 2010-9-7 20:28

“would+have+done”虚拟语气，表示对过去事情的假设，意思是“本来会做”
也就是说这个公司现在会增加意愿来夺取那些它过去会让给竞争对手的大量市场销量。
而that在后面的从句中代替the mass market sales来充当conced sth to sb 中的宾语sth,因此that可以省略

-- by 会员 sisley2 (2009/12/8 13:06:28)

嗯嗯，明白了~~~谢谢

作者: tallhermit 时间: 2011-8-20 10:10
感谢各位前辈的讨论和指点，特此附上我自己的总结，希望大家一起讨论，共同进步```

A 在这里首先说明的是划线部分应当是做定语从句修饰前面的先行词 mass market sales. 从句主语they就和主句主语company不搭配了，因为主句中的谓语动词是has，不是have。所以 they应当换成it。Concede sth. to sb. 是固定用法，sth.就是省略的先行词that所指代的mass market sales. 这个地方would + have + done 表示的是对过去的猜测，“本应当做的事情”，我认为结合句子意思来看这里应该不是虚拟语气。A因为they用错了，所以不正确。

B 同样是They和their用的不对，

C 首先，previously和in the past语意重复了，违背了GMAT有效性原则，同时that引导的是定语从句，它作为先行词代替的是market sales，在从句中做的是宾语，然而that放在那里只能充当主语，所以这个句子的结构是有问题的。

D previously和in the past有重复，其次，in the past放在rival后面不明白是表示过去的rival还是和rival在过去发生的事情。

E 基本没有太大问题，it用法正确，would have表示过去本应当拿到的市场份额，E正确。

作者: yuxiaoyang 时间: 2020-3-3 20:07

weiweiforever 发表于 2006-4-25 11:00
虚拟语气

同意！

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