retty strightforward to me.This is Joseph, currently taking the HKUST SZ Part-Time MBA Program. Thank you CD in the first place for setting up this platform for people to share experience. CD did help me a lot when I was applying the MBA cause a couple of months ago. I fhinally decided to this one that suit me most.
Although there are a couple of messages posted regarding HKUST MBA program application queries, I don't see much information about HKUST SZ Part-Time MBA Program on this website. I believe the HKUST SZ Part-Time MBA program is also as good especially for those staying around GD province and for those who are unable to surrender their current position like myself.
I'm here to serve you the best I can should you find interested in such program. I might also bring some of my classmates to this webside to answer your question if I find the feedback is good.
Up!!!
I am one of 2005 intakes.
Joseph, thanks for your leadership, we really need to let more people know it. Share some reasons why I chose HKUST part-time:
1, global standard with good price, no one better in south China (even in china actually, but I dont want to be invovled in debate)
2, schedule arrangement, you do not need to give up your career if you like it
3, classmates relationship, it's exceed my expectation after I was in
...
For myself, it didn't take me too much time to make such decision. For personal background's sake, I definitely go for English MBA program for sure. Location is one of the big thing. I'm staying in GZ and I think taking class at SZ is not big deal as long as the program suit me. High ranking is the key reason. When you have no idea on top of your head, you go for top on the list. HKUST SZ Part-Time MBA program fullfil all these requirement of mine. retty strightforward to me.
BTW, who's upstair.
up!!!!
I am intake of 2005 HKUST SZ part program - Joseph's classmate. We will utter our most to answer your Q and supply the info in demand. For brief info, pls go to the official website at: http://www.bm.ust.hk/szmba/index.html
By the way, basing on our personal understanding and source available, we provide the info, which does not represent the HKUST.
support!
Joseph and Victorliao,
下次咱们来深圳大伙一起聚聚，多联系联系！
Tks for jcfong's help.
I'm preparing to apply MBA program 2006 entrance now. But I really don't know how to choose between CEIBS and HKUST. I'm in SZ. I really want to go to a famous BS. FT or PT is not the key point for me. I just want to know which one could help me a lot?
Hi Xiaolu, it's nice to meet you here. Your article posted at <2006 HKUST (香港科大) MBA申请 — 大陆同学答疑> inspire me to open a seperate block to ans question for those who interested in the HKUST SZ part-time MBA program.
Your article about studying life as as ful-time student in HKUST is very interesting. It seems our couses are quite synchronized. We've just finished the MARK512 by Prof. Joseph Salvacruz and submmitted the take-home exam before X'mas break. Currently taking Financial Accouting by Prof. Gary Biddle. Anyway, sounds like we have much acadamic information to share with.
As the chairperson of the student committee, I really want to line up both SZ part-time students and HK full-time students through some joint-activities in the coming future.
My msn as joseph_fong_chau(A) hotmail.com may be we can have a chatting to see the possibility to line up students from various intakes.
Cheers
If you 'ree located in SZ and don’t want to give up your current job. Try HKUST SZ part-time MBA would be the best choice. I assume you attempt to take English MBA program.
Following are some pros and cons of FT / PT program
FT (Pros & Cons)
Pros
- More academic, can concentrate on studying.
- Can enjoy both school facilities (HKUST equips with world class library and other facilities) and a lot of activities apart for learning from which I think will definitely benefit you in great deal.
- If you pick HKUST full-time program, you may also experience over-sea school life. Check this from other articles at CD website.
Cons
- Must surrender your job. A big decision.
- It also cost more.
If you desperate to change your field, quit your job and spend a year and a half to take the full-time one. Or, otherwise, if you want stay at the same field/firm, you're suggested to take the part-time one.
PT (Pros & Cons)
ros – Cons of FT
Cons – Pros of FT
If you pick PT, HKUST SZ part-time MBA program is the only choice, CEIBS doesn't provide FT program to my knowledge.
For FT, both CEIBS & HKUST have their advantages:
CEIBS is much more well-known than HKUST in the mainland, whereas HKUST is much stronger in academic background especially in the finance field. HKUST is also higher ranking than CEIBS.
If you plan to develop your further career in the mainland, CEIBS seems a better alternative or why don’t try HKUST
Following article depicts how organizations rank MBA programs.
【原创】商学院华丽起飞：公司关系、协同效应、巧提排名
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2005年1月24日，中欧国际工商学院（CEIBS）在英国《金融时报》（Financial
Times，简称FT）发布的2005年度全球MBA百强排行榜上，从2004年的53位跃居22位，远远领\
先于排名44的亚太区著名的香港科技大学商学院。在随后4月份《福布斯》（Forbes）中文癨
娼蚁?摹爸泄?钣屑壑瞪萄г骸钡鞑榻峁?校?信吩俅伪黄牢??罩芃BA课程回报率最高的\
商学院。
与中欧类似，北大国际MBA（BiMBA）自1998年创办来也非常注重和特定财经出版物的关系经\
营：BiMBA在《财富》（Fortune）中文版历年来对内地商学院MBA项目的调查中均获得理想礬
呐琶??眯Ｔ凇陡２妓埂分形陌娲舜味灾泄鶰BA毕业4年后的投资回报的评比中，其在职MBA\
项目的投资回报率被认为是最高。
巧借规则 提升排名
成立至今11年不到的中欧的确在MBA项目上的综合实力明显超越了香港科大了吗？据笔者分蝄
觯?信吩贔T排名榜里的出色表现很大程度上还取决于对媒体的关系管理和对游戏规则的巧肻
钤擞茫篎T的MBA排名标准中，收入水平的指标占到40%的权重。然而就在这个关键的指标上?
?帽ㄖ降纳瓯ㄒ?蠓浅？硭桑荷萄г嚎梢曰惚ㄕ媸档腗BA毕业生收入水平，也可以选择上报\
以有争议的“购买力平价”（Purchasing Power
Parity，简称PPP）折算后得出的MBA薪资。这样一来，香港科大MBA的客观起薪水平65,915肻
涝?年低于中欧调整后的97,999美元/年（乘以4后得出的结果）也就不足为奇了。然而，作\
为第三方在公布相关评选结果的同时，FT并未就此做出特别说明，中欧和国内媒体在引用上\
述结果时也有意或无意地忽略了上述提示，社会公众和普通的MBA申请人因此很容易被误导?
?br> 实际上，FT的MBA排名榜并不是中欧入选的唯一榜单：在2004年10月著名研究机构英国经济裓
Ъ仪楸ㄉ纾‥conomist Intelligence
Unit，简称EIU）根据就业机会、个人发展与教学质量等14个指标选出的全球MBA百强排行榜\
上，中欧名列95位。由此可见，尽管是非营利性的教育组织，中欧在以品牌战略为核心的市\
场化运作（尤其在MBA形象宣传方面）的确经验丰富：2004年，该校相关稿件的见报量超过5\
00篇次，这意味着平均每天至少有1家媒体报道有关中欧的消息。
对中国本土其他商学院而言，在推进国际商学院专业评价领域任重道远：最起码，作为国际\
一流商学院的重要标志之一，美国管理教育协会（AACSB）的权威认证是必须获得的。
此外，《福布斯》中文版对国内45家商学院及其MBA毕业生的调查显示，尽管经历了10多年礬
姆⒄梗?就辽萄г河牍?室涣鞯纳萄г合啾饶壳叭源嬖谙灾?牟罹啵鹤ㄒ堤厣?幻飨浴⒔┗\
?目纬躺柚糜胄Ｓ淹?缃ㄉ璨涣Γń??贾缕笠倒叵当∪酰┑热醯阆嗟泵飨浴?br>
譬如由李嘉诚基金会创办的长江商学院，在管理体制、财务实力、教授团队和MBA的课程设糪
瓢才诺攘煊蚓咭欢ㄓ攀疲?涮岢隽嗣樽际澜缫涣魃萄г耗勘甑闹谐て诜⒄拐铰浴叭??菀濉\
保?不竦昧嗽て谛Ч?Ｈ欢?喽杂贓MBA、EDP等工商管理教育项目，全职MBA作为该院的核衆
钠放撇?罚?杂泻艽蟮奶嵘?敕⒄箍占洹?br>
公司关系管理是捷径
MBA毕业生的主要就业目标是外企，在华全球著名外企如摩根、高盛、宝洁、普华永道等，肻
磕甓荚诒贝蟆寤?仍盒？?栊Ｔ罢衅缸ǔ。??そ?萄г?003级MBA有87%去了外企（该診
夯固乇鹕枇⒘薟oman in Business、International Business Development、Young
Banker与Marketing
Star等和职业发展直接挂钩的奖学金计划）。在这种情况下，中国本土商学院格外需要通过\
持续的努力，与跨国公司（尤其是投资银行、管理咨询公司与专业服务机构等）建立密切稳\
固的关系。
2005年，中欧180人的MBA扩招使其面临两难的局面：欧美顶级商学院的MBA主要在投行、咨裓
?雀咝叫幸倒ぷ鳎?剿?系偷闹圃煲当静皇荕BA最有竞争力的地方。但如果中欧在内地将MB\
A就业方向定位于投资银行等领域，该校必须大幅缩小招生规模才能保证绝大多数毕业生能誠
业焦ぷ鳎环裨蛑信返拇蟛糠諱BA毕业生将不得不通过降薪，和其它学校的MBA争夺制造业公薥
镜木鸵祷?帷Ｖ信返睦Ь指??舳懒⑸萄г旱某そ??粗疃嗥羰荆?绻?そ?诮?谀冢?-3\
年）不能成功确立精英化、专业化的核心优势与相应的公众媒介形象，日后校方把MBA项目癨
嶂帘本┦被崦媪倮醋员贝蟆寤?却?掣叩仍盒８绞羯萄г焊??ち业恼猩?赫?捅弦瞪?\
耙捣⒄寡沽Α?br>
各商学院应加强与国际投资银行的联系。短期内目标是使自己的商学院出现在所有主要金融\
机构的在线求职中的学校名单中，使其与国内四大院校毕业生拥有同一起跑线。同时，借助\
外部专业顾问的关系网，邀请主要国际性投资银行中国业务主管来学院开设讲座或授课（选\
修课），并联系、安排自己的MBA学生定期赴香港的跨国金融机构亚太区总部拜访。
现有的参照模式有“北大国际MBA和美林”、“中欧和汇丰”的合作模式。美林在大中华区礬
慕逃?手?苹??005年1月正式实施：在该公司服务了17年的美林亚太区董事总经理潘耀坚\
退休后，从2005年的第一季度起，同时为来自北大国际MBA、香港中文大学和台湾国立政治碶
笱У?20名研究生开设《应用金融与财务管理》课程。美林共16.5万美元的捐款将被用作支\
付3所大学研究生交流计划；16.5万美元中有6.5万美元被捐赠给北大国际MBA。按照课程要荺
螅?⌒薇究纬痰拿棵?г苯?诶醋粤硗?所大学的学员组成小组共同工作，40个小组的学生\
要为大中华区域的特定公司拟定策略与财务计划，以提高股东价值。2005年4月，汇丰在中臷
肪侔臁吧涛裾铰钥纬獭保??判姓?懿酶鹆兀⊿tephen K. Green）同时访问了学院。
追求协同效应
就总体趋势而言，中国本土商学院的MBA学费越来越向高端发展。譬如2005年长江MBA的学费\
标准由2004年的14.8万元上涨到22万元，涨幅近50%，与国内相当多院校的EMBA的学费接近?
６?就辽萄г阂虺闪⒗?飞卸獭⒅泄?耙稻?硎谐「崭掌鸩降认拗疲?蠖嗳狈ψ愎坏腗BA毕\
业生职业发展表现与雇主反馈等系统的透明信息，在此情况下，大幅度提升学费，给MBA短芢
诜⒄勾?淳薮蟮氖谐⊙沽?吞粽健Ｃ娑匝г闭惺铡⒅耙捣⒄沟却?吹难暇?佳椋勘收呓ㄒ槌\
?忧抗?竟叵档目?⒂牍芾硗猓?褂ψ魅缦屡?Γ?br>
稳定与发展教授团队。目前，中国本土各商学院的常任教授团队由于校方在具体承诺兑现方\
面的滞后，存在着不稳定的隐患。学院股东及管理层应重视对教授承诺的实现和关注教授们\
的想法，采取有效措施，与教授保持及时地沟通。同时，借助一些外聘教授们在欧美商学院\
与企业界的关系网络，推动MBA学生海外实习机会的实现。目前清华、北大已有部分研究生篭
蚆BA学生通过海外教授的推荐，赴欧美跨国公司总部和对冲基金等处实习，并因此给之后的\
求职带来了显著便利，从而形成院校独特的MBA职业发展优势
精英化的MBA招生策略。在MBA项目上主要采取小班制（50名左右的学生）招生模式的商学院\
尤应如此。为提高生源质量，笔者建议主要从清华、北大、复旦及上海交大等国内名校本科\
毕业生中选拔MBA学生（力求达到80%以上）。该建议是根据著名跨国公司在中国内地目前的\
招聘需求提出的——国际性投资银行、三大全球性管理咨询公司（麦肯锡、波士顿咨询与贝\
恩）等在校园招聘中，主要面向上述学校的本科毕业生。为使自己院校MBA毕业生职业发展腬
茉谕蹲室?小⒆裳??竞痛笮椭圃煲悼绻??荆?茉础⒌缙?⒒?ぁ⒁揭┯敫呖萍剂煊颍┑\
墓芾砼嘌瞪?苹?攘煊蛴兴?黄疲?⒔??妨⒕赫?攀疲??⒒?腗BA招生策略是必由之路\
。
为力求精英招生策略的顺利实施，最好聘请具备相关社会知名度和人际关系网络的专家（如\
多年来在以上著名院校本科生中享有盛誉的跨国金融界人力资源专家许国庆先生）出任顾问\
（直接参与招生咨询活动），可以作为短期内迅速奏效的捷径。
调整入学MBA的平均工作年限为3-5年。由于国际投资银行与著名管理咨询公司在欧美商学院\
中倾向于招聘平均工作年限为3-5年的MBA学生，建议中国本土商学院投其所好，在MBA招生蔦
奔囱细癜压兀?筂BA入学时的平均工作年限从现在的7年缩短为3-5年——借此树立长期的生\
源优势与就业优势。
发挥与EMBA、EDP的协同效应。建议各学院通过加强EMBA、EDP课程与合作对象的创新安排，\
建立与加强和跨国公司的联系，发挥EMBA/EDP与MBA的协同效应。以中欧最新的公司并购EDP\
课程为例，该课程由学院教授和全球最大的专业服务机构普华永道（PricewaterhouseCoope\
rs）的并购咨询业务董事总经理Mark
Sirower共同给学生授课。对于学生来说，由具备实际业务操作经验的专业人士讲课能给其碶
?聪灾?氖找嬗肫舴ⅲ?杂诳绻??镜闹懈卟阒鞴芏?裕?萄г涸蛱峁┝怂?侵苯用娑郧痹\
谄笠悼突У幕?幔?档土斯低ǔ杀尽?br>
中国本土商学院可借助上述安排，促进著名跨国公司对商学院的了解和认知，加强学校与外\
资企业的关系，并进一步吸引他们来校招聘MBA学生。2004年9月，长江商学院EMBA学生与瑞\
银集团（UBS
AG）曾通过举办金融市场研讨会进行交流，邀请了瑞银投资银行执行董事兼中国首席代表杨\
凯、负责财务策划及资产管理业务的沈叔蓉及瑞士银行北京分行的郑大纲来学校演讲。但令\
人遗憾的是，上述活动在长江商学院远没有形成系统性的安排，为此热切希望学校能有专人\
负责面向跨国公司的关系拓展及组织系列性专题活动。
实现国内媒体关系的重点突破。目前，关于各商学院的媒体报道主要是学院领导层的自我对\
外宣传，缺乏专业的媒体关系管理和有重点的特别突破。建议各商学院从自己的EMBA在传媒\
领域的同学入手，由专职工作人员加强与《21世纪经济报道》（刘洲伟）、《福布斯》中文\
版（郭笑一；主编周鹏、MBA排行项目负责人刘瑞明）、《中国企业家》（牛文文）等人的肻
芮泻献鳎?黾用教灞ǖ嫉钠德屎凸刈⒍龋??约涸盒?BA项目年度排名中获得有利的排名创\
造必要的前提条件。
海外媒体方面，则需和《华尔街日报》在华首席记者和MBA评选负责人、《金融时报》在华蔦
紫?钦吆蚆BA评选负责人等建立并保持长期的密切联系，定期投放综合类（形象宣传）与专\
题类（招生需要）广告，力求在短期内（2-3年）填补所在院校在国内外财经媒体工商管理絓
逃?琶?姥『捅ǖ乐械目瞻住?br>
Linda 606, When you Choose a FT CEIBS and HKUST PT, I suggest you to make your decision based on your real situation.
1. For a PT program ,you don't need give up your job that result in big loss in the income and living cost in a FT program for 1.5 year.
2. I don't know if you note the most applicants of CEIBS are from Shanghai or nearby.That means they prefer to live and work in Shanghai.Do you have the plan to start a new life in Shanghai?
3. As far as I know, The average age of CEIBS is around 27.Most of them could accept a new start after graduation. How about you ?
4. Why there are so large PT MBA program market demand (PT MBA program applicants in HK account for majority of MBA applicants)? If you have a very good job, will you give up it and pursure a uncertain future ? I suppose most of PT applicants have a very strong working background.
Tks for Crickets,jcfong and 路漫漫.
Now I prepare to apply both HKUST and CEIBS
I have attended the MBA program show of both HKUST and CEIBS in SZ. I feel that HKUST's is a little bit better than CEIBS. I don't care whether need to quit my job or not cause I really want to change my job now, hehe~~~~. I just care which programe could let me learn more knowledge,give me more chances to change a good job and to contact more excellent classmates. But it seemed from HKUST's website that its FT programe need so little working experience (only 2 years). I'm afraid its students would be too young. But for HKUST's PT program,I have heard that there would be many ppl come from Walmart and Emerson. In my mind, I don't like to have so many classmates come from the same one or two companies. So I repfer CEIBS before. But now, after I having attended CEIBS's MBA program show(jus on last Saturday), I begin to take HKUST into account again. At the same time, I'm so pleased to find so many warm-hearted ppl from HKUST hear. It adds my desire to HKUST Thank u again.
BTW, I'd like to introduce myself a little more. I'm 27, with 5 more years working experience. Now I'm a purchasing manager in a HK company located in SZ. My company is an electronic components manufacture with middle size (total 2000 ppl). I want to work in a big American or Europe company. And also I want to change my position to sales or marketing. If it's too difficult for the last change, position of supply-chain management is also ok.
Hope could get more suggetion from u.
we have 4 walmart classmates and 1 emerson classmate in 05 intake. 4 walmart classmates come from 4 different backgrounds. 27? in term of age, it is almost youngest in 05 intake
Hi Linda,
27 years old is young and 5 years of working experience is prefect timing for taking the MBA program. Taking the MBA with less than 5 years of working experience is a bit of waste as a good MBA program is practical and inspire students learn from experience.
Based on your message above, you’re desperate to learn and keen to be studying with classmates with various profiles. If you can hold your career a while and finance is not a key issue, I think taking a FT one could be a better choice for you.
Your concern of youth student profile of HKUST FT program is unnecessary. To my observation during the 4 day HKUST residential program that we, the SZ PT student, were taking class with HKUST both FT and PT students, the FT/PT student profile actually quite impress me. Majority of PT students are from big foreign corp. such as Morgan Stanley, Hutchison, PCCW, HSBC, etc…On the other hands, FT students profile are quite different and most of the FT students are actually from overseas with variety of career background. Some of them have migrated to overseas for many years or have certain HK background and return back to HK looking for opportunities. Some of the students are ABC (American Born Chinese) or xBC. Many are from Asia such as India or Thailand. Majority of them are focusing to the big boom of China market. Studying at HK can keep them pace with what’s happening in China market while obtain quality education that is trustworthy to them.
The 2 years working experience that you mentioned in your message is quite exceptional. To my knowledge, that is the lowest work experience that HKUST accept in record. The guy is from oversea (can’t remember from which country) and has been running his family business after his first degree.
In contrast, HKUST SZ PT student profile is rather drably because SZ’s demographic background:- dominant by few foreign and local corporates that welling sponsor staffs to take the program, many electronic factories or related industries around Dongguan, etc…
Taking HKUST FT MBA program I suppose will give you oversea studying experience while staying close enough to your home town SZ. Check more FT program information at the 2006 HKUST (香港科大) MBA申请 — 大陆同学答疑 that hosted by Xiaolu. I’ve chatted with Xiaolu last week on the web. He's enthusiastic guy and I think he’s welling to help.
Jcfong,u r so kind to give me so much good suggestion. I really can't thank u enough.Not only HKUST's website but also its session in Dec. in SZ gave me such wrong impression about HKUST's FT MBA program.Now I confirm that I'll apply HKUST's FT program.
The very urgent thing I have to do is to take part in GMAT. As I only prepared to apply CEIBS before, I has thought that CEIBS's enrollment examination is enough. It seems so stupid now,hehe~~~ BTW, would u please inform me that whether could I catch HKUST's deadline if I prepare to take part in GMAT at the end of this Feb.?
Hi Linda,
The very urgent thing I have to do is to take part in GMAT. As I only prepared to apply CEIBS before, I has thought that CEIBS's enrollment examination is enough. It seems so stupid now,hehe~~~ BTW, would u please inform me that whether could I catch HKUST's deadline if I prepare to take part in GMAT at the end of this Feb.?
In the case of urgency, I would suggest you to ring up or email to HKUST MBA office for enquiry.
MBA Programs +852 2358 7539 ; 2358 7544 mba@ust.hk
If you have joint the SZ road show, I wonder if you know Christ from the MBA office (Director of MBA office). Talk to him or drop him a email and you will get the instance ans.
Jcfong, tk u so much.
I have talked with Christ and gotten an enven worse news. For HKUST FT program,TOEFL or IELTS is the necessay condition. Time is so urgent for me. I have to hurry up. Maybe I couldn't catch its deadline. But I want to have a try firtly.
TK u again.
Of course, GMAT and ToFEL is a must for FT MBA student. You can't get rid of them anywhere. Now is Jannuary. Take your time and you've got few monthes or even longer to prepare.
For my case, I got my first degree oversea, so Tofel is exempted. However, GMAT is a must. I submmited my application form with essay on March. Wait till April to have my two references submitted. I did my interview around May and I got offer before I got my GMAT result. So you got pentty of time.
I would suggest you to try the neworiental for GMAT test to get your preperation done in a more efficient way. One of my HKUST SZ program classmates is working at neworiental. You can try to reach him
lianmeng@staff.neworiental.org and see how he can help you.
Good luck.
Hi, Jcfong,
Tks for your suggestion. I have taken part in training center. Please be noted that I have sent one message to u.
Up! It's sinking...Hope to help more candidates who are interested in HKUST SZ PT Program.
up!
UP2
BTW,jcfong is a very nice gentleman.Tks so much for his suggestions.
I am interested in HKUST PT program, but some of my friends told me that this program is not accepted by China Education Dept. It means the diploma cannot be authenticated.
Is this true ? Pls advise.
I heard that the program in SZ and in HK is different. HK PT should be no problem, SZ PT ...not so sure. Are you really sure it can be authenticated ? Pls advise.
Dear all,
I'm one of the 2006 applicant, and I got the confirmation of interview within this month.Can anyone give your valuable advice on how to prepare the interview?
What are the quesitons I would be asked, and how could I answer them?
It's really pity that my query got no reply,anyway, I passed the interview and got the admission letter today.
I hope all the SZ PT MBA program applicants can get the help they need and get the admission letter, thought it's not realistic.
Talk sth about my interview.
Each applicant has about 20 minutes for the interviewing.so prepare your answers in advance, I mean you should anticipate the questions the Admission officers would ask.
Basically there are two interviewers:One is Grace Liang,senior representive of the SZ MBA office, the other one from the business school (Maybe the director, I forgot the title),they would ask the questions based on your application materials-The Essay, the education background, the working experience and your hobbies etc. Of couse,they would ask you 'Why MBA', and 'Why the HKUST program'. Don't be too nervous.
What's your GMAT & Tofel scores ? What's their minimum requirement?
shrekwind,
My TOEFL is 640. I have not submitted my GMAT score. Will sit in the GMAT next month.
The HKUST website lists the requirements
Generally you need a undergurate degree,GMAT&TOEFL,your transcript,certificate of your degree.
Without GMAT score you still can get their admission letter, I feel so surprised. How could that happen?
I guess the admission office would not appraise your potentail only by the GMAT.
Anyway, I'm the lucky guy.
I am applying for HK PT too. I missed the interview due to my tight business schedule. Haven't got any email about the next interview IF there is one. One of my friend in UST helped me ask the Admission office, and telling me there will be one next week. Hope that is true.
One of my question is, will the PT taker have any scholarship?
I am applying for HK PT too. I missed the interview due to my tight business schedule. Haven't got any email about the next interview IF there is one. One of my friend in UST helped me ask the Admission office, and telling me there will be one next week. Hope that is true.
One of my question is, will the PT taker have any scholarship?
Just got an interview advice from PT admission office and would be interviewed on next Thursday.
In my mind, there is only 66,000 schorlarship for every appliant from mainland.
About the Scholarship, you may have the HKD25,000 CNS deduction from the total fee if you are eligible.
I got the offer last week. My interview was late due to my work schedule. Anyway I am going to take the offer. Any 2006 intaker?
My email is ruanliuhui@msn.com.
HI all, I also get the offer of FT programme in HKUST. Nice to meet SZ classamtes.
Hope to see u in SZ or HK! my msn is czonghui(A) hotmail.com
有港澳通行证吗?可以用它去中行兑换.没有的话有护照也可以.现在最高可以兑换2万美圆等值的外币
另外,存钱的话可以到你们当地的恒升银行的网点去.
多谢。银行要五一假期过后才上班，到时候去办理
很奇怪，这个项目国家根本就不承认，为什么还有这么多人感兴趣？
Hi there everyone!
Havn't been here so long, glad to see the message is sill here. 帖子还没沉。
Alpha7777、Czonghui，congradulation to both of you. looking forward to see you soon.
You know what? I'm the current president of class committee 2005 intake. The class committee has been paying great effort to organize class activities ally with other parties such as HK FT students. We’ve just finished a great event yesterday that the HK FT students come over SZ to meet SZ PT students. Many of us also give our first trying in our life time to play golf at the driving range. The event was success and we all have fun. One of the main purposes of this kind of event is to establish networking that lasting no only for years but for life long.
I'm glad to see the new intakes going to join us, the class committee welling to pass the torch to you.
Best wishes to your study.
alpha7777, I have band account in HK so I don’t have this kind of problem. I'd suggest you ringing up SZ office for seeking help. SZ office should have lots of experience of dealing with this kind of payment issues.
Shrekwind, I think most people who taking the mba program are not only focus on PRC
what's the difference between HKUST PT SZ and HK?
Can Mainland student apply for HKUST HK PT ?
偶有两个问题想问一下，
这个项目现在的学费是多少啊？2005年好像15万，后来呢？
还有到目前有没有深圳的同学申请到交换生呢？
初来乍到，不清楚的，有知道的回个消息啦，谢谢
Do you know anyone from SZ PT program ? Do you know the background of SZ PT ? For PT program, HKSUT pays more attention on the working experience and positon of students. As far as I know , most PT students are the managers of International leading companies that already strongly demostrate their capability and potential.We not only learn from the professors but also from the classmates.
In fact ,If the candidate has no tofel and GAMT score, they have to pass the examination of HKUST which is very similar with GMAT. the real reason for choosing PT program is the high opportunity cost and family.
Of course I know this program quite well. I have some friends who graduated from this program last year. They told me this program is not worthwhile: not accepted by China government ; difficult to change jobs; alumni quality is not as high as they expected; program management is not as good as media said ...
If you wanna take this program, just take it. Pls don't flatter it. Avoid giving newcomers wrong information.
The forum is open I think the SZ PT MBA program is also open.
We are adults and can judge by ourselves. You expect more, you lose more, MBA can't change your life dramatically, it only adds your chance of success,but it does not mean success.
I don't know the difference between the HK and SZ PT MBA program. but I do know a HKUST EMBA graduate and a HK PT MBA program graduate in my company. they don't change their jobs because they served the company for over 10 years. Ironically, I don't observe the mainfest changes within them.
But why we choose MBA program and why HKUST? the problems are asked by your admission officer and you may have your 'standard' answers.You may collect as much as possible informations and make you decision. Maybe you are influenced by others, maybe you have your own mind,anyway,in one word, you have your answer.My answer is I choose the suitable program matching my need.
Think before you act.I know the program is not authenticated by China. but it does not mean the quality is not as good as many 'certificated 'MBA programs in China.Any program has its negative reports in this forum,but we can judge and compare. What use of one pure certificate?
Why so many Chinese high school students rejected offers of Tsinghua and Peking Universities and accepted the offer of HongKong universites? I don't think it's only the attraction of scholarship. If I have kids, I will send him/her to HK or overseas universities.The chinese education system is destorying kids.
We still have another options : CEIBS,CKGSB,etc....But Do they match your situations now?. Do you have time&money to study in Shanghai,beijing etc. If I'm in Shanghai or beijing ,I will consider other programs above.
BTW,I have reasonable GMAT and TOEFL scores after I was admitted by the program.but Do the scores count much? I was a test taker during my university life and had a high GRE score of 2380.but I know now test score is not the whole life.'Life is not intact without GRE and TOEFL.'inspired by such a sentence, I struggled the test.but now I realize life is not score.Your success is not only related to score.
Wish all of us fine. Let us chase our dreams.
I'm in shenzhen and I'm 2006 intake, nice to know you all.any old and new intakes pls contact me via l_xz@21cn.com
看了shrekwind的发言, 我突然想起上星期六在赶上课的电梯里碰到的那位阿姨,她的问题是"你们香港科大的MBA是双证的吗?"
请问前辈，HK PT班中有从深圳赶去上课的吗？奖学金大概是多少？66，000？谢谢！
能学到的知识打折扣
Hi guys, i just submitted my application for UST's SZ program, hopefully will get admitted. By the way, the tuition has increase for 2008 intake to HK$165K.
Anyone know that in the degree certificate or transcript will mark "SZ" or "part-time"???
thanks
as i know degree certificate and transcript don't mark "SZ" or "part-time" and is absolutely the same as the one issued to FT students. Please be aware that degree has less than 10% effect on your success according to a study. Don't pay much attention to the degree, experience and your boss's coaching is more important than any degree.
Hi, thanks for all your precious sharing. If the degree gained by this program is identical to that of HKUST FT/PT program taught in HK, I cannot see why and how it would be denied by the government. On the other hand, for the program itself, even though most of us consider the value of a 1-tier MBA program comes from lots of aspects, we’ll have more confidence if it could demonstrate us its power, influence, and reputation, etc by the admission of the government. Or, maybe the education department does not admit any program offered solely by a ‘foreign’ university but taught in
看了shrekwind的发言, 我突然想起上星期六在赶上课的电梯里碰到的那位阿姨,她的问题是"你们香港科大的MBA是双证的吗?"
不知道中欧与香港科大的MBA政府是否同样看待，我想知道，香港科大深圳PT班有没有毕业生去到一些顶级的公司呢？比如一些大的投行或者TOP的咨询公司呢？如果有，那么政府的承认与否就可能不是最重要的了。谢谢
Hi Friends,
I am scheduled for the interview on next Tuesday, Jan 23rd, from 2:20~2:40. Anybody interested in the mock during the weekend, please contact me through alowree(A) hotmail.com or 138 2357 0630.
The tentative plan is as following:
Time: Sat or Sun 9:00a.m.
Venue: TBD(some place in Fu tian area)
Basically we will spend three hours together sharing information and doing mocks.
我和深圳PT班的一些同学聊过，2006是60个人。他们平均工作年龄10年左右。来自公司Intel、HP、Ericsson、IBM、Huawei、UT、招商银行、Walmar、中移动，其中很多已经是公司的中高层，另外有一部分香港过来的人，由于授课和香港完全一样，所以有些在深圳上班的外籍人事。珠三角：深圳、广州、东莞、惠州的很多人都过来了，总体感觉这个班的人背景非常强。大部分是因为不想离开岗位所以选择PT。
我和深圳PT班的一些同学聊过，2006是60个人。他们平均工作年龄10年左右。来自公司Intel、HP、Ericsson、IBM、Huawei、UT、招商银行、Walmar、中移动，其中很多已经是公司的中高层，另外有一部分香港过来的人，由于授课和香港完全一样，所以有些在深圳上班的外籍人事。珠三角：深圳、广州、东莞、惠州的很多人都过来了，总体感觉这个班的人背景非常强。大部分是因为不想离开岗位所以选择PT。
如果是这样的话，对读这个班的人来讲，是一件好事；我想知道的是，HKUST的就业报告中，是否只是香港全职班的，深圳PT班的毕业生对职业发展影响如何呢？谢谢。
如果是这样的话，对读这个班的人来讲，是一件好事；我想知道的是，HKUST的就业报告中，是否只是香港全职班的，深圳PT班的毕业生对职业发展影响如何呢？谢谢。
HKUST的就业报告中的数据只是指的HK FT班。
hi, guys, just interviewed by Chris Tsang and Grace Liang last Saturday, I feel I performed not bad, but have not yet submitted my GMAT because i will only take GMAT 8th Feb., Any alumni or current student can tell me if UST SZ will make a conditional offer in the absence of GMAT result??
Hello leontiff, 大多数的MBA学校排名都是根据FT student的数据，一般不会包括PT。我想是应为PT student没有FT student那么dedicate，一般都是不愿意放弃现有职业的。我认为FT 和 PT在未来就业方面有以下不同：
FT：多数是拿到Degree没几年的，在公司不是当高职，没什么opportunity cost, 多数是想通过MBA转 field。因此毕业后和毕业前的就职有很大的提高。
PT：多数是就职人士，不愿意放弃现有职位，只想在现在的Career上更上一层楼，因此毕业后和毕业前的分别不大。
If you plan to take PT program, donot expect too much.
To clarify:
It should be:"If you plan to take PT program, you have to bear in mind that the PT program would not bring you too much surprise."
You should have expectation to the MBA program or it is waste of your time and money.
Hello, overmars. 我是05 intake的，和06 intake的也经常交流，有几个还比较熟。 发现的确是长江后浪推前浪，一蟹胜于一蟹，想不认老都吾得啦。。。06年的是比较优秀，从搞活动来看是比较积极和Competent。从student profile differentiation来看也比较强，company/career background 来看也比较强，从同学们财力来看也较强。
跟SZ office聊过，说主要是这几年UST名气大了，来申请的人多了，因此学校能挑到分量较大的学生。
也就是说Admission约来约难了，要报名就要早了。
Hello 天道不孤，没听说有同学从深圳到HK PT上课，不太现实。（1）时间问题，UST在香港西贡，较偏僻，交通时间较长（2）HK PT某些课是在周日上，每周两晚，而且是在港岛商业区上，从深圳赶过去太累了。（3）HK PT没奖学金。
香港人来SZ上SZ PT的到有几个。（1）在深广工作的，（2）想多了解国内情况的，（3）想省学费的。。。
Hello lowree， 什么专业方向就没啦，详细的课程列表可见下：
05 Aug Residential Program (HK Campus)
05 Sep MGTO 523 - Management of Organizations
Prof Stephen Nason/core course
05 Oct ISMT 551 Introductory Statistics for Business
rof Anthony Chan/core course
05 Nov ACCT 521 - Management Accounting
Prof Gary Biddle/ core course
05 Nov MARK 512 - Marketing Strategy and Policy
Joseph Salvacruz/core course
06 Jan ACCT 510 － Financial Accounting Foundations
Prof Gilles Hilary & Gary Biddle/core course
06 Mar ECON 511 - Managerial Economics
Prof Leonard Cheng/core course
06 Apr ISMT 561 - Operations Mgmt
Prof Albert Ha/core course
06 May ECON 512 - China in the Global Economy
Prof. Danyan Xie/core course
06 Jun ECON 512 - Corporate Finance
Prof.Sudipto Dasgupta/core course
06 July ISMT 502 - Fundamentals of IT Mgmt
rof. Kar Yan Tam/core course
06 Aug MARK 690Q Business Simulation Game
(HKUST Campus)
Prof.Wilfried Vanhonacker
06 Sep SBMT 511 Managerial Communications
Caroline Wang/Core
06 Oct MGTO Strategic Human Resources Management
Prof. Eillie Weldon
06 Nov ISMT 502 Innovation Management
Chris Westland
06 Dec MGTO 541 Strategic Management
JT Li/core
07 Jan ACCT Advanced Management Accounting
Guo-chang Zhang
07 Feb ISMT Business Process Optimization
07 Mar FINA 535 Value Creation
Vidhan Goyal
07 May MGTO 542 Leadership & Decision Making
Caroline Wang
07 Jun MARK 539 Understanding Consumers
Jaideep Sengupta
07 Aug ACCT 561 Business Law & Ethics (1) TBC
Hello shrekwind，
Want to clarify something here:
1. I'm not quite sure if the SZ program accepted by Chinese Government or not. Does it matter anyway except that you want to pursue your career path in the Government firm? HBS, Wharton and many other good BS oversea are not accepted by Chinese Government as well.
2. Agree that the alumni is not as good as expectation. This is mainly because that the SZ UST MBA PT program has established not more that 5 years and therefore the graduated student number is limited. Also hard to find volunteer to form the committee team. On the other hands, the alumni of HKUST performs much better, they have full time staffs for adminstration stuffs. The SZ UST PT's alumni committee has just formed couple of months ago. I'm looking forward to see the team to strengthen the student network.
3. For program management prospective, HK UST's program management skill is tremendous. Few days residential and ELP program held in HK campus are very impressed. Very professional. For SZUST office, there is a lot to catch up.
, but just want to know, what is the minimum acceptable GMAT result for SZ programme?? who made the lowest GMAT record to be accepted by the SZ programme??I suppose SZ program has taken great care to the PRC students in great deal. To my knowledge last year the cut set as b/w 540 ~ 550. This is far below than that required by top school. HK campus's requirement is set as higher say, 600~650.
Hello, overmars. 我是05 intake的，和06 intake的也经常交流，有几个还比较熟。 发现的确是长江后浪推前浪，一蟹胜于一蟹，想不认老都吾得啦。。。06年的是比较优秀，从搞活动来看是比较积极和Competent。从student profile differentiation来看也比较强，company/career background 来看也比较强，从同学们财力来看也较强。
跟SZ office聊过，说主要是这几年UST名气大了，来申请的人多了，因此学校能挑到分量较大的学生。
也就是说Admission约来约难了，要报名就要早了。
jcfong, thanks for your feedback. I agree with u since the SZ program just started with 21 students 5 years, get better and better reputation. I have knows some 2006 intake with good profiles.
all the above guys, anyone got interviewed in Jan 2007 got offer for the SZ programe??
深圳ＰＴ基本都是Core Course，没elective..原因是没太多的师资...这个我觉得也廷合理。。。
香港的PT的elective就很多...但如果是深圳的学生要考虑：
（1）香港PT的课程是每个Subject横跨8周，每周上、下午上不同的subject。因此你一上就要上8周；
（2）部分subject是weekday evening 在中环上. 要考虑transportation，Visa等问题。。
I_he，
it seems that you know the deadline of the 2nd round,please submit the application form on line right away,time is limit~
TO 84TH FLOOR
IT SEEMS YOUR PROFILLE IS VERY STRONG FOR HKUST'S PART-TIME PROGRAME, TRY TO APPLY FAST, GMAT AND TOEFL CAN BE SOLVED WITH ADCOM'S GUIDANCE!!!
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I have learned a lot about FT and PT
Thank you!
Dear all HKUST SZ MBA friends,
Does anyone know if there is any kind of BBS for HKUST SZ MBA intakers? I am a Year2007 Intaker, I am not sure if there is any such platform on which all HKUST SZ MBA intakers can exchange our ideas or thoughts about MBA studies or career development.
Thank you very much for your suggestions and comments!
Allan
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nod!
Allan, hurray~~
hi,dear all.
very happy to become classmates with you all, though we don't have courses in the same class, we are both sources of HKUST and we should strengthen our conmmunication with each other in near future.
I and Angela ( part-time HKUST MBA) will exchange our contact list of both part-time and full-time HKUST MBAs 2007 intake, hope we will have more interactions.
I heard that you have classes during 16th-21th Aug at campus, and we will arrive at school by then. We are looking forward to meeting you all !
intake2007 are very busy now, the big trick case and accounting exam make us crazy. Add you as a friend via MSN.
question: whether HKUST SZ has any exchange opportunities to other Business schools?
Hello,
Anyone want to apply the 09MBA of HKUST SZ-PT program? I am thinking about it.But the higher and higher education fee is becoming a headache....
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