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作者: lymmba    时间: 2005-12-13 16:31
标题: GWD 26-10
Lawmaker: Raising taxes is not the only means of reducing government debt. The government’s stockpile of helium is worth 25 percent more, at current market prices, than the debt accumulated in acquiring and storing it. Therefore, by selling the helium, the government can not only pay off that debt but reduce its overall debt as well.



Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?


A.      The government has no current need for helium.


B.      Twenty-five percent of the debt the government has accumulated in stockpiling helium is not an insignificant portion of the government’s total debt.


C.      It is not in the lawmaker’s interest to advocate raising taxes as a means of reducing government debt.


D.     Attempts to sell the government’s helium will not depress the market price of helium by more than 25 percent.


E.      The government will not incur any costs in closing its facilities for stockpiling helium.


我感觉到D 和 E都可以。E似乎好些,请诸位大侠发表高见。



作者: yangxiaogang    时间: 2005-12-13 23:57

D is the best answer


作者: 五大老    时间: 2006-3-7 23:09
我个人也觉得应该是D
作者: kimbol    时间: 2006-3-8 13:25

D is better .


passage does not mention anything about :closing its facilities for stockpiling helium


作者: orange2005    时间: 2006-3-8 16:24
以下是引用lymmba在2005-12-13 16:31:00的发言:

Lawmaker: Raising taxes is not the only means of reducing government debt. The government’s stockpile of helium is worth 25 percent more, at current market prices, than the debt accumulated in acquiring and storing it. Therefore, by selling the helium, the government can not only pay off that debt but reduce its overall debt as well.
Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?
A.      The government has no current need for helium.
B.      Twenty-five percent of the debt the government has accumulated in stockpiling helium is not an insignificant portion of the government’s total debt.
C.      It is not in the lawmaker’s interest to advocate raising taxes as a means of reducing government debt.
D.     Attempts to sell the government’s helium will not depress the market price of helium by more than 25 percent.
E.      The government will not incur any costs in closing its facilities for stockpiling helium.
我感觉到D 和 E都可以。E似乎好些,请诸位大侠发表高见。


这道题可以这样来做。
把D加个not,也就是说,政府卖掉Helium的话,会打压Helium市场价格超过25%,也就是卖不到好价钱了,政府的收入就少了很多,那么也就不还清债了。--》对原结论削弱。所以选D。
把E加个not看看,如果政府关闭存储Helium的设备的话,还要引起一些花费,比如花费2毛钱。那么政府要从卖Helium的总收入中来扣除这笔额外的2毛钱花费。结果,对政府的总收入几乎没有什么影响,只是个零头,可以忽略不计。--》对原结论没有削弱。所以E错。


作者: rosmarine    时间: 2006-6-3 10:52
请问楼上,如果E说的costs前面有significant之类的形容词,E就能削弱了,对吗?

另外再啰嗦几句,我们经常碰到类似的题,说一个人做某事可以得到什么profit,问weaken,正确选项基本都是说做这件事的同时会incur什么更大的cost。所以这道题如果E说significant costs那么就跟D可以一拼了,对吗?
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作者: ly365    时间: 2006-7-10 15:07

i support d


作者: gonghao    时间: 2006-7-11 11:01

单从推理角度来说D好一些

更直接,not+weaken的assumption

E不是太好

支持rosmarine的观点


作者: maggiecookies    时间: 2006-8-30 18:29
以下是引用kimbol在2006-3-8 13:25:00的发言:

D is better .

passage does not mention anything about :closing its facilities for stockpiling helium

ding


作者: mbz    时间: 2006-8-30 23:51

Just pass by. take a look and find out that

B is the answer.

B is correct for the following reason:

Twenty-five percent of the debt is the extra amount of money the government will save after taking care of the helium itself. If this amount is comparable to the total governmental debt, then the sale will make sure that the government can not only pay off that debt but reduce its overall debt as well.

D is wrong for the following reason:

depressing of the market price is among one of the many conditions that can affect the outcome of the sale, but is not an assumption that the argument relies on. Even if the market price of the helium will not go down by 25%, who knows how much it is worth. Maybe it is $1 million, while the remaining governmental debt is $1 billion. Hence, another assumption has to be added here: that value of the 25% percent should be about the same as the remaining governmental debt.

Further discussion is welcome.


作者: Laoben    时间: 2006-9-2 01:09

Anybody select A?


作者: gonghao    时间: 2006-9-7 15:23

选D

对B取非not insignificant---》insignificant,支持结论

D,如果下降超过25%,那连reduce debt也没了


作者: mbz    时间: 2006-9-8 12:12
以下是引用gonghao在2006-9-7 15:23:00的发言:

选D

对B取非not insignificant---》insignificant,支持结论

D,如果下降超过25%,那连reduce debt也没了

对B取非not insignificant---》insignificant,then it is impossible to pay off the rest of the government debt by using this extra 25% value. hence, it doesn't 支持结论

B stands.


作者: gonghao    时间: 2006-9-8 12:57

TO mbz

it is impossible to pay off the rest of the government debt by using this extra 25% value

正是B取非后的内容

结论是the government can not only pay off that debt but reduce its overall debt as well

any difference here?


作者: mbz    时间: 2006-9-8 21:59

For some reason I misread the conclusion as: the government can not only pay off that debt but also erase its overall debt as well.

Thanks to gonghao. What a mistake!!!


作者: gonghao    时间: 2006-9-8 23:04

That's OK. Don't mind of it


作者: 2000zlj    时间: 2006-10-6 20:06
我第一次做也选D,但xdf蓝皮书上的答案好像是A,如果政府对helium有需要,就不能出售,也有些道理
作者: ecochem    时间: 2006-10-12 05:23

开始做的时候我也犯了和mbz同学一样的错误,选了B

现在明白了D是正确答案


作者: yogaII    时间: 2006-10-12 05:33

D for sure...

my 1c.


作者: 111cara    时间: 2006-10-22 23:30
还是想请教一下A怎么排除?
作者: fastfting    时间: 2006-10-22 23:36
D
作者: tedzzx    时间: 2006-11-16 23:51

怎么没人讨论A啊?
怎么排除A啊?


作者: hedgeho0827    时间: 2006-12-25 16:26

是啊,A怎么排除呢?

如果政府对H有需求,不就不能卖了么


作者: boochxu    时间: 2007-1-10 03:17

  个人观点:A为无关选项。ETS在众多的选项中设置有类似的迷惑选项。做多了,一眼就能看出是无关选项。因为政府需不需要不在原文推理链中。

   再者,可用取非验证。取非后,政府需要这个设施。这个结论对原文推理无影响。之所以有人认为这个结论对原文结论有影响,是因为在这个结论的基础上,再加上的附加的前提。如,因为政府需要,就不能卖了,就达到文中所说的结论了。这是你自己加上去的附加前提。这样的推理个人认为,在ETS看来,叫哲学,不是逻辑。不过,咱们中国人容易犯这种错误,原因就在于咱们发散思维比较多,哲学头脑比较多啊。


作者: sabrina07    时间: 2007-1-12 18:01
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作者: iflyagain    时间: 2007-7-13 00:02

我觉得A可以用楼上一位NN支持D排除E的类似办法排除。我先贴在下面. 那么对A来说,即使政府需要买helium,也和需要的程度有关系。需要多少是一个问题,和E一样,关掉工厂需要附加其他多少成本,这些都可能是很insignificant的影响。而D就不一样,因为它的程度是很significant的(会打压超过25%的市场,意味着所得的都没了),很影响决定。所以D对,AE错。这也说明了做assumption题是,选项必须是可以达到影响原文推论程度的必要条件,有一些迷惑选项也类似设置成必要条件,但是必要的程度可能不够,不足以影响结论,所以错。

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D加个not,也就是说,政府卖掉Helium的话,会打压Helium市场价格超过25%,也就是卖不到好价钱了,政府的收入就少了很多,那么也就不还清债了。--》对原结论削弱。所以选D
E加个not看看,如果政府关闭存储Helium的设备的话,还要引起一些花费,比如花费2毛钱。那么政府要从卖Helium的总收入中来扣除这笔额外的2毛钱花费。结果,对政府的总收入几乎没有什么影响,只是个零头,可以忽略不计。--》对原结论没有削弱。所以E错。


作者: wgaggassi34    时间: 2007-9-28 19:40
D!!!
作者: happycg    时间: 2008-7-3 15:13
ddddddddddddd
作者: skigorush    时间: 2009-7-28 16:26

作者: cindytim    时间: 2010-2-4 11:04
我来说下a啊, 打个比方, 美国有很多石油也储存了很多,就是不卖而且他们还是进口,可能为了以后将来别过都没有了在卖高价, 或者在自己用。 所以说需要不需要在这里卖不卖是无关的
作者: harryholly    时间: 2010-12-18 14:43
标题: 我也选的A
怎么没人讨论A啊?
怎么排除A啊?
-- by 会员 tedzzx (2006/11/16 23:51:00)

要从五个选项里挑最好的,单看A是挺好的。但是D明显更加符合题目要求。拙见。
作者: qhgang    时间: 2013-10-31 16:43
看看 谢谢分享

作者: DeliciaAn    时间: 2015-6-14 23:01
cindytim 发表于 2010-2-4 11:04
我来说下a啊, 打个比方, 美国有很多石油也储存了很多,就是不卖而且他们还是进口,可能为了以后将来别过 ...

A.        The government has no current need for helium.

这里的need不仅仅是需求就是要用吧,比如还有军事上的,政治上的威慑力神马的需要啥的吧。




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