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作者: howardwang    时间: 2005-12-12 13:10
标题: gwd17-14,答案是否值得商榷?

Q14:


Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.




  1. Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

  2. Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies

  3. The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

  4. Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete

  5. Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies

   Answer: B


我在A|B间犹豫,最后,还是觉得A更好些。虽然A也不完美。


但是B的competing companies 后面接 one day,觉得很别扭。


大家的意见?


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作者: carolhide    时间: 2005-12-12 14:29

我也在A,B间犹豫过,但是觉得A中的 more established industries这个修饰有点问题,就去选了B。


一点小看法。


作者: 马上考    时间: 2005-12-15 08:50
怎么看不到讨论?
作者: 马上考    时间: 2005-12-15 08:55

我觉得A的 “as companies that compete one day may be partners the next"不对,应该事”as competing companies one day may be partners the next."


欢迎指教



作者: GMAT阿驴    时间: 2006-3-15 15:55

Q14:


Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next.




  • Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

  • Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies

  • The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

  • Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete

  • Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies

  • 通过比较AB 应该 B交好.A的as companies that compete  在句子中不做任何成分


    B 中industries that are more established 虽然不够简洁 但不是致命的错误



    作者: jason00    时间: 2006-3-19 09:54

    vote for A,   in industries that are more established (adj。), 明显redundant, 相对来说,as companies that compete, 因为compete是实意动词,不构成redundant


    作者: lklszlklsz    时间: 2006-3-20 13:49

    answer is A, Because  "one day" must form the relationship with "next". It make no sense if the two words appear in a simple sentence as adv. Furthermore, "one day" cannot modify company.


    作者: amber0919    时间: 2006-4-22 10:12

    作者: evita_zhang    时间: 2006-5-15 18:39
    这题应该是A啊,B用了让步从句,但这里从逻辑上来说没有让步的意思,就是一个转折
    作者: hannah1112    时间: 2006-5-17 20:00

    是不是THE MORE的用法错误,要么用THE MOST,要么用 IN MORE ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIES?

    继续讨论。。。。


    作者: hannah1112    时间: 2006-5-17 20:07

    还有一个地方我想提出来:我读A的时候觉得internet industry 不在 more established industries 里面,而我读B的时候觉得internet industry 是more established industries里面的,但是情况和more established industries 中 clear competition 不同,是不是B的意思更准确一些,而A相当于把more established industries 和 internet industry 作了一个对比?

    继续讨论。。。。。


    作者: gonghao    时间: 2006-5-17 20:19

    b

    as competing companies
            
    one day may be partners the next.

    这个更好,锁定BE

    排除E


    作者: maxin18    时间: 2006-5-25 16:36

    赞同A,

    因为established industries明显比industries that are more established要好。

    whereas和Although相比语气弱一些,如果作者不特别强调,也应该选择保持原句。

    companies that compete one day比competing companies one day语感上要好。


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    作者: seastone    时间: 2006-5-26 00:55

    AS 做连词, 表原因LZM 语法. competing companies 表示现在进行的动作 更符合原句的意思. 且主从句之间的对应比A 工整.


    作者: sendme    时间: 2006-5-26 02:25
    以下是引用hannah1112在2006-5-17 20:07:00的发言:

    还有一个地方我想提出来:我读A的时候觉得internet industry 不在 more established industries 里面,而我读B的时候觉得internet industry 是more established industries里面的,但是情况和more established industries 中 clear competition 不同,是不是B的意思更准确一些,而A相当于把more established industries 和 internet industry 作了一个对比?

    继续讨论。。。。。

    我同意hannah1112的观点,  B 的含义更清楚。so i  think B is best..

    1,A 的结构more整齐,对称。Although
                        the lines of competition
    are clearly defined
                        in industries
    that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct
        in the Internet industry --  典型的脸,鼻,口对称。just one example...hehe..

    2, idiomatical 方面,A use"more established industries", B use "competing companies ",

    即使不完美, A, B 相当。。

    3,i think it's most important aspect..我同意hannah1112的观点, B 的含义更清楚。

    文章比较在一个范围
         
    the more established industries, internet industry is one of the more established industries..  B 的形势更加清楚。。

    希望大家讨论。。


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    作者: llfllfllf    时间: 2006-6-23 05:14

    A 的错误, as companies that compete one day may be partners the next

    首先, as要跟句子, 这里只跟了名词companies

    其次, that 从句中有两个动词,这是不允许的

    另外, as competing companies one day may be partners the next

    谁能告诉我the next 指什么啊?


    作者: hawkinsxie    时间: 2006-6-23 07:45

    A正确,已经盖棺定论!

     as [companies that compete one day] may be [partners the next].

    这里as是连词,表原因,这本身就是句子。


    作者: llfllfllf    时间: 2006-6-23 09:42

    答案不是给的B么?


    作者: llfllfllf    时间: 2006-6-23 09:45
    何况A中的in the Internet industry
            they are blurred and indistinct没有B中的 they are blurred and indistinct
            in the Internet industry 来的清楚

    作者: icon    时间: 2006-6-23 10:00
    以下是引用hawkinsxie在2006-6-23 7:45:00的发言:

    A正确,已经盖棺定论!

     as [companies that compete one day] may be [partners the next].

    这里as是连词,表原因,这本身就是句子。

    agree
    作者: llfllfllf    时间: 2006-6-24 22:55

    我觉得这个题目还是B对!结构非常的对称

    as competing companies
            one day may be partners
            the next

    其中:the next 指的是the next day

    对仗非常的工整啊!


    作者: llfllfllf    时间: 2006-6-24 23:01

    来看一下B整体,

    Although the lines of competition
                are clearly defined
                in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct
                in the Internet industry, as competing companies may be partners the next.

    前面对的也是非常漂亮!!

    还有什么理由不选B????


    作者: jandjshi    时间: 2006-6-25 02:55
    以下是引用llfllfllf在2006-6-24 23:01:00的发言:

    来看一下B整体,

    Although the lines of competition
       are clearly defined
       in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct
       in the Internet industry, as competing companies may be partners the next.

    前面对的也是非常漂亮!!

    还有什么理由不选B????

    不选B的理由就是那个one day. 楼上怎么把这么重要的部分给删了呢?

    competing companies one day may be partners the next. 这里one day是时间状语修饰may be, 这句话Competing companies one day may be partners就可以了, 翻译Competing companies哪天就可能成partners. 再加the next就不对了, 两个时间状语, 一个动词.

     

    One day要做副词修饰competing的话, 在这里应提前, 从而避免歧意. as one day (once) competing companies may be partners the next.


    作者: llfllfllf    时间: 2006-6-26 02:14

    楼上的,我没有把后半部分删掉, 在21楼呢!

    不过你说的很有道理呢, 一个动词两个时间,好象是不太对,

    晕了!

    我不明白为什么B这么对仗整齐的选项也能错啊?


    作者: jandjshi    时间: 2006-6-26 02:37
    以下是引用llfllfllf在2006-6-24 22:55:00的发言:

    我觉得这个题目还是B对!结构非常的对称

    as competing companies one day may be partners the next

    其中:the next 指的是the next day

    对仗非常的工整啊!

    Sorry, 没注意这个也是你的.

    你认为one daythe next (day)是形容词, 修饰companiespartners, 其实不然. 这里应是副词. 举个例: 今天做朋友, 明天做敌人. “今天明天是副词修饰动词”. 若做形容词就是: 做今天的朋友, 做明天的敌人. 不太通吧.

    对仗工整的前提是要没有歧义. 这题的难度就在看清每个词的性质, 避免歧义 


    作者: llfllfllf    时间: 2006-6-26 07:59

    我屈服了!

    另外, one day 修饰compete, 而不是companies

     好象楼上哪位说过的, 当初没领会其中的奥妙!

    谢谢jandjshi!


    作者: hwhhs    时间: 2006-6-30 12:37
    A
    作者: zimerman    时间: 2006-8-12 11:50
    答案是 A
    作者: mbz    时间: 2006-8-12 12:11
    yes, it's A.
    作者: gonghao    时间: 2006-8-12 13:51

    A is correct answer

    discrpency is too small


    作者: nijiz    时间: 2006-9-20 10:46
    upup
    作者: findjuhl    时间: 2006-9-20 18:43

    这道题100%选A

    B从逻辑到简洁上都有致命的问题。


    作者: mc637t    时间: 2006-9-30 03:00

    支持A

    在B中前半部的對稱是比A好但that are more established在多數題目是錯誤的

    但我想若是A中in the Internet industry在強調產業不同的方向下移致前方

    那A的對稱就不比較差

    而B中最大的質疑是competing companies one day...就其他人所說one day是修飾competing companie

    那該句就應該變成as competing companies may be parterns one day而不是就B所寫


    作者: MaccMichAA    时间: 2006-10-15 11:11
    以下是引用zimerman在2006-8-12 11:50:00的发言:
    答案是 A

       支持Znn提供的答案


    作者: wshengbo    时间: 2006-10-22 19:40
    zhi chi A, one less mistake..
    作者: lxzjojo    时间: 2006-11-2 16:54

    好,看完贴子后偶屈服啦,是A。。。

    虽然A中有个软肋,就系lines of competition和in the Internet industry they的对称不够完美,但似乎也没有致命错误,倒是B中有个硬伤,就是那个one day与compete的问题鸟。。。

     


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    作者: christlulu    时间: 2006-11-2 23:39
    Whereas 觉得摆句首不太对,而且companies that compete 不如competing companies 简洁。。。
    作者: heshaohua666    时间: 2006-12-9 22:25
    A IS RIGHT
    作者: 花仙子    时间: 2007-1-8 22:34
    UP
    作者: sweetbeer    时间: 2007-4-5 20:55

    看到最后心情舒畅,解决了两个问题:

    首先:B中的as competing companies one day may be partners the next逻辑错误,竞争对手有一天也许能成为战略伙伴the next? A中as companies that compete
         one day may be partners the next(day)很好解决了这个问题--曾经的竞争对手可能在未来成为战略伙伴;

    其次:whereas 强对比关系,强调the more established industry和the internet industry中lines of competition的差异,不能简单地换成让步的although改变了原文的意思。

    再次:in the more established industry > in industries that are more established(adj 优于 简单定语从句原则)

    做题时的确在AB上逗留了很久2mins多,最后还是利用whereas 强迫自己选了A...


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    作者: llxx1985cn    时间: 2007-6-8 18:06
    up
    作者: colorful_na    时间: 2007-7-6 09:45
    kan
    作者: hhdty    时间: 2007-7-10 15:30

    顶一下


    作者: sheilajin    时间: 2007-9-10 16:15

    这个ONE DAY也是当初犹豫半天最后选择A的理由。。。


    作者: 阿土莎莎    时间: 2007-11-29 16:34
    up
    作者: shenphon    时间: 2008-2-17 18:47
    真麻煩,現在看討論要發言才能用捲軸
    作者: Mars861227    时间: 2008-4-4 11:16

    B是答案没错啊

    就在那个one day位置

    A 中的one day 修饰不清,可修饰complete 也可修饰may be

    B 就很好啦,completing 作形容词,one day 修饰may be

    最后半句话的意思是,那些竞争的公司有一天也许会变成伙伴(很清楚)


    作者: nornxiaozhu    时间: 2008-4-6 00:18

    最主要的是A中的they指代不明

    而B中的they从语法上来说指代lines 而逻辑上也是指代lines


    作者: lichabrend    时间: 2008-5-21 23:30
    up
    作者: vanissa    时间: 2008-6-13 17:57

    这题我选A,对了答案和前面几则讨论一度屈服于B,后来还是句意为上,选A

    理由不是whereas比although好,或是in the more stablished industries优于in industries that are more established,

    因为其实这些严格来讲应该都不算是什么大错误,只是我们自己猜测ETS的喜好,说不准的,

    还是看句意吧

    14. GWD17-Q14:

    Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
                    one day may be partners the next.

     

    A.      Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

    B.       Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies

    C.      The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

    D.      Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete

    E.       Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies

    C/D/E就不说了,用unlike就可排除,主要比较A/B

    我想B最主要的错误在于 as competing companies one day may be partners the next -->这句这样讲逻辑是不通的,

    as competing companies one day may be partners the next? 这句话没办法表达出原本 '互相竞争' 的公司后来变成伙伴关系

    companies that compete one day may be partners the next 句意才通

    one day跟the next可以呼应 compete跟be partners互应
            


    作者: ashleyu    时间: 2008-7-4 21:40

    很多人提到more established industries有歧义,一开始我查点也被迷惑了.

    但是,请注意,more之前有"the",所以只能是"more established" + "industries"的意思.

    如果要表达"more"+"established industries"的话,前面不应该加"the"

    所以,还是选A!


    作者: bmwedward    时间: 2008-8-20 14:35
    以下是引用vanissa在2008-6-13 17:57:00的发言:

    这题我选A,对了答案和前面几则讨论一度屈服于B,后来还是句意为上,选A

    理由不是whereas比although好,或是in the more stablished industries优于in industries that are more established,

    因为其实这些严格来讲应该都不算是什么大错误,只是我们自己猜测ETS的喜好,说不准的,

    还是看句意吧

    14. GWD17-Q14:

    Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete
        one day may be partners the next.

     

     

    A.      Whereas lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, in the Internet industry they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

    B.       Although the lines of competition are clearly defined in industries that are more established, they are blurred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as competing companies

    C.      The lines of competition are clearly defined in the more established industries, unlike the Internet where they are blurred and indistinct, as companies that compete

    D.      Unlike more established industries, where the lines of competition are clearly defined, they are burred and indistinct in the Internet industry, as companies that compete

    E.       Unlike more established industries, with clearly defined lines of competition, those of the Internet industry are blurred and indistinct, as competing companies

    C/D/E就不说了,用unlike就可排除,主要比较A/B

    我想B最主要的错误在于 as competing companies one day may be partners the next -->这句这样讲逻辑是不通的,

    as competing companies one day may be partners the next? 这句话没办法表达出原本 '互相竞争' 的公司后来变成伙伴关系

    companies that compete one day may be partners the next 句意才通

    one day跟the next可以呼应 compete跟be partners互应
      

    Dear NNs,

    小弟我原本選A 後來看了許多帖子後, 改選B

    請注意B選項後面

    as competing companies one day may be
                    partners the next
    .

    competing companies 對稱partners

    one day (adv) 對稱 the next (adv)

    相當工整

    小弟淺見


    作者: benzine    时间: 2008-10-2 00:20
    以下是引用bmwedward在2008-8-20 14:35:00的发言:

    Dear NNs,

    小弟我原本選A 後來看了許多帖子後, 改選B

    請注意B選項後面

    as competing companies one day may be
        partners the next
    .

    competing companies 對稱partners

    one day (adv) 對稱 the next (adv)

    相當工整

    小弟淺見

    请教一下这个As引导的从句,该如何翻译成中文?


    作者: szy733    时间: 2009-2-5 14:02
    up
    作者: wzsgdtc    时间: 2009-5-8 13:35
    谁能解释一下这句话的意思啊?
    作者: Eliott    时间: 2009-5-22 12:16
    up
    作者: zyjzyj    时间: 2009-5-22 16:53
    我认为答案没错, 选B, 下面一点浅见:
    1. in the more established industries和 in industries that are more established没区别
    2. as competing companies one day may be partners the next和companies that compete one day may be partners the next, 我也没发现有哪个不对.
    3.我的理解是关键在于整句结构, whereas(对比)和although(让步)的不同made a significant difference between them, 其中as是表原因的连词
    A. whereas clause1, clause2, as clause3 = (clause1+clause2)+clause3
    B. although clause1, clause2, as clause3 = clause1+(clause2+clause3)
    稍想一下,就可以看出B更符合逻辑, as引导的clause3是表clause2的原因的,应该修饰clause2,和clause1没关系.

    作者: skigorush    时间: 2009-7-26 11:08
    kerker
    作者: leleshirley    时间: 2009-12-9 09:55
    支持B
    more established industries 和industries that are more established有区别啊
    前者more修饰不清,有歧义,究竟是修饰more established还是more industries
    这个问题新东方小蓝里有同样的题目。在这里后者优于前者

    而大家讨论的one day 和compete的问题,我觉得B是可以说的通的。副词修饰形容词没有问题的,相当于competing one day,而且个人以为B中反而be动词前后对称的更好呢

    请nn指教!
    作者: tsqqq_ny    时间: 2009-12-27 01:30
    Support B.
    Look at B: The first part, the lines of competition are ... in industries, they are .... in the internet industry... This is perfect parallel.
    A: The first part, lines of competition are ... defined in ... industries, in Internet industry, they are ... The industry part has changed order.
    Second part: for B: competing companies one day may be partners the next.
    one day vs. the next; competing companies vs. partners
    Again, this is perfect parallel.
    Please discuss more!! This is the spirit of CD.




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