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作者: mango 时间: 2003-9-6 03:34
标题: Sloan 2004 Applicants
Working on my application for R1 now, anyone in the same boat?
I am a reapplicant from last year, applied in R2, dinged without an interview.
My impression is that Sloan strongly favors applicants with tech background,
which I confirmed during my school visit.
Any idea if sloan favors reapplicants? How many chinese students were admitted last year? What are their backgrounds?

作者: chipmunk 时间: 2003-9-6 04:24
Yes, you're right. Sloan has almost 50% students from tech background. I don't think Sloan against reapplicants. However, on the other hand, if you don't show some new stuff to them, your chance won't get better.

作者: mango 时间: 2003-9-6 04:48
chipmunk bro,
thanks for the reply. then I guess my question is how to position myself as a reapplicant.
It is challenging for reapplicant, on the one hand, you want to show them how much you have "matured" from last year, on the other hand, you can't be way off from last year, ie, career goals etc. I wonder if the admission committee would go back to look at previous year's application. Maybe we could start some sort of discussion for reapplicant from last year?

作者: tsljz 时间: 2003-9-6 05:00
However, sloan does not favor reapp as well. I think the adcom will take a look at the notes for last year, but I don't think they will read all the essays through.

作者: tsljz 时间: 2003-9-6 05:03
In fact, if you applied R2 last year, it is not easy to show how significant improvement you have made since then. Basically you have only a few months. So if you have a lot of new stuff, then great! But if not, maybe you can focus on how your view toward MBA and your career. I am not saying change your career goal, but you can show how you understand your goal and your life better. Plus you can show how you understand Sloan better. A friend of mine reapplied to Wharton last year. He used the same approach, and succeeded. (Wharton is reapp friendly though)

作者: chipmunk 时间: 2003-9-6 05:16
Although you can't change your career goal, there is always some room you could dig deeper.

作者: siebel 时间: 2003-9-6 05:29
Sorry for my stupid question. Not for this specific case. Just general question.

I'm just wondering why people like to reapp? Does that mean they already applied all the good schools in that field last year? Take this case as an example, MIT maybe attractive in the field of Quantative Analysis, but Wharton, Chicago, Stanford, or CM are not bad either. Why just move to apply other schools? Does this mean all of these schools have been applied before? This is really a hard work...

Thanks!

作者: mango 时间: 2003-9-6 05:30
tsljz, thanks for the wonderful advice. You know what bothers me is that Sloan asks reapplicant to submit a new set of applicantion. Should I made some minor changes based
on last year's app, or simply come up with something complete new?

作者: tsljz 时间: 2003-9-6 05:58
First of all, sloan changes some essay questions, so you may re-package yourself. And for the questions that are identical to those from last year, I would still suggest you to make some changes, at least from different perspective.

作者: tsljz 时间: 2003-9-6 06:01

以下是引用siebel在2003-9-6 5:29:00的发言：
Sorry for my stupid question. Not for this specific case. Just general question.

I'm just wondering why people like to reapp? Does that mean they already applied all the good schools in that field last year? Take this case as an example, MIT maybe attractive in the field of Quantative Analysis, but Wharton, Chicago, Stanford, or CM are not bad either. Why just move to apply other schools? Does this mean all of these schools have been applied before? This is really a hard work...

Thanks!

:-) sieble brother, there are difinetely a lot of good schools out there. The reasons why people want to reapply is that:
1)some schools are reapp friendly, like wharton. (others not though, like harvard and stanford)
2)reapplication shows your dedication to the specific school and schools like that. So if you get improvement since last year, you may get better chance to be admitted. Again, this applies to the reapp friendly or at least not reapp-against schools.

作者: siebel 时间: 2003-9-6 06:06
标题: I got it! Thanks tsljz!

以下是引用tsljz在2003-9-6 6:01:00的发言：
:-) sieble brother, there are difinetely a lot of good schools out there. The reasons why people want to reapply is that:
1)some schools are reapp friendly, like wharton. (others not though, like harvard and stanford)
2)reapplication shows your dedication to the specific school and schools like that. So if you get improvement since last year, you may get better chance to be admitted. Again, this applies to the reapp friendly or at least not reapp-against schools.

作者: tsljz 时间: 2003-9-6 20:38
大家对於sloan的第二篇文章"new idea"有什么见解？重点是什么？什么样的new idea比较合适呢？technical方面的可以吗，不过比较难以衡量benefit，因为可能是大系统里面的一块。

作者: mango 时间: 2003-9-6 20:47
Yeah,
Still trying out figure out why I was dinged by all the schools I applied last year.Now I am running out of choices now, have to reapp to some of them.
750+, 5 yr financial service, post MBA position, & sleek essays, what the hell went wrong?

作者: tsljz 时间: 2003-9-6 20:54
mango, from your background, it is hard to tell what went wrong. Maybe you are just competing with too many financial guys.

作者: tsljz 时间: 2003-9-6 20:56
plus if you got dinged by all schools, there must be something wrong with your essays.

作者: mango 时间: 2003-9-6 21:06
I have a couple of friends who are HBS graduates(americans), they helped me review my essays last year. One thing that impressed me most is how they helped me changed the tone of my essays, it is all about "ME, ME, ME". Maybe that sounds too aggressive. It might work well for HBS, but not for others. I really don't know. I applied for second round last year, but this time I will try first round and see if it will make a difference.

作者: tsljz 时间: 2003-9-6 23:48

以下是引用mango在2003-9-6 21:06:00的发言：
I have a couple of friends who are HBS graduates(americans), they helped me review my essays last year. One thing that impressed me most is how they helped me changed the tone of my essays, it is all about "ME, ME, ME". Maybe that sounds too aggressive. It might work well for HBS, but not for others. I really don't know. I applied for second round last year, but this time I will try first round and see if it will make a difference.

yeah, that may be a problem. The tone is really important. And the perspective of a problem is also important.

In fact, I believe we need to adapt our essays to each school, both style and tone.

作者: monet 时间: 2003-9-8 05:51
Are there other top-20 MBA schools (in addition to Sloan) that favor the tech background?

Which schools are more interested in candidates with higher degrees such as PhD in Engineering and Science assuming the candidates have the same number of years working experiences as those with only undergraduate degrees?

作者: mango 时间: 2003-9-8 05:58
CMU, UT austin, if one got his Ph.D in the U.S, wharton, Chicago(every year they take a couple of people with Ph.D+several year's industry exp). H/S/Columbia might be a long short since they favor younger applicants.

作者: tsljz 时间: 2003-9-8 06:00
please notice that CMU does not provide loans for international students without co-signer.

作者: k2 时间: 2003-10-1 12:22
Maybe that sounds too aggressive. It might work well for HBS, but not for others.

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It definitely works for others. You need to be agressive to survive in this brutal business world, and one of the most important purposes of MBA education is to train the perspective manager. You may visit serveral top b-schools. You will find it is hard not to be aggressive.

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