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作者: ananawhc 时间: 2024-7-23 11:12
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作者: 古天乐 时间: 2024-7-24 00:36
对于混毕业的人，啥都难得很

作者: ananawhc 时间: 2024-7-24 08:35

古天乐发表于 2024-7-24 00:36
对于混毕业的人，啥都难得很

作者: 古天乐 时间: 2024-7-24 10:44
学校牛，再难的一手数据也拿得到
学校弱，人尽皆知的二手数据也不给买

作者: Tripleg 时间: 2024-7-24 23:13

If your intention to pursue a Ph.D. is driven by non-academic "whims and desires", I would suggest that you go for an MBA or specialized Master. An MBA from a top program (e.g., Wharton) can land you a lucrative career that is more high-paying than a teaching school faculty position.

作者: 古天乐 时间: 2024-7-25 00:31
同一档次的学校乃至同一个学校的PhD学生之间的差距，远大于同一档次的学校乃至同一个学校的PhD项目之间的系统性的差距
今天会因为别人劝说“某某学校某某专业前途不错”而选择该学校或专业的人
明天就会因为自己没找到好placement而责怪别人把他“坑”进这个坑学校或专业

作者: ananawhc 时间: 2024-7-25 16:04

古天乐发表于 2024-7-25 00:31
同一档次的学校乃至同一个学校的PhD学生之间的差距，远大于同一档次的学校乃至同一个学校的PhD项目之间的系 ...

作者: 古天乐 时间: 2024-7-26 03:20

ananawhc 发表于 2024-7-25 16:04
发散思维很强，你好像assume兴趣和前途不能共存，如果谈前途，那么必定没兴趣
经常在论坛上看到关于金融 ...

A person who is really interested in something and self-motivated to do something won't care about the "predicted" outcome.

作者: Tripleg 时间: 2024-7-27 08:07

I revisited ananawhc's original query, and it seems to be only concerned with career placements that a PhD promises -- specifically, teaching schools and their potential in helping her achieving her nonacademic goals and objectives, without any reference to research interests. These two are disparate topics.

作者: 古天乐 时间: 2024-7-28 04:18

Tripleg 发表于 2024-7-27 08:07
I revisited ananawhc's original query, and it seems to be only concerned with career placements tha ...

他/她可能说的是对OB的兴趣吧

这东西，薛定谔的兴趣
我还对LOUIS VUITTON, ROLEX有兴趣呢
这个我的消费结果有什么关系

中译中“research school应该要publications，如果毕业前没什么发表，其他硬件方面也没有优势，去teaching school 找到终身 ”
我对科研没多大兴趣，也没什么动力
我也不想提高soft skills
我就想要张business PhD文凭，而且希望仅仅靠该文凭找到tenure-track assistant professor job

问题是如果仅仅招个人去教书，人家凭啥要你，图你PhD diploma？要来干啥？起到造型的作用？

随便招个美国人硕士做不香吗？还不用给tenure-track

作者: yuhaoyang2001 时间: 2024-7-28 20:43
感觉楼主应该就是想探探OB教职的底这不是很正常吗

作者: 古天乐 时间: 2024-7-29 01:09

yuhaoyang2001 发表于 2024-7-28 20:43
感觉楼主应该就是想探探OB教职的底这不是很正常吗

这有什么好探的？
这跟PHD CONCENTRATION有什么关系？
这怎么度量？
7-point Likert scale or probability?
If 7-point Likert scale , the answer surely is "strongly unlikely".
if probability, is there an AI model to predict individual outcome?
If there is, what are the predictor variable and what are the values of his/hers?
What does "毕业前没什么发表"mean?
Having 2 paper under Org Science R&R is 毕业前没什么发表
No any submission to any journal is also 毕业前没什么发表
What does "其他硬件方面也没有优势" mean?
Too old? Too straight? Too autisic?

Or he/she simply wants to know the probability of geting a tenur-track job after geting a business phd degree from an OK phd program .
Then he/she can simply got to the websits of all the OK phd programs and check their placement records and resumes of each record.

作者: Tripleg 时间: 2024-7-30 01:02

By the way, I would not belittle the value of a Ph.D. degree. Ph.D. programs are designed to be a crucible at reputable business schools in North America (and probably much of Europe, plus HK and Singapore), and those who survive it are rightly proud of themselves. While many smart people have no hankering for a Ph.D., those who hold one are generally smart enough. Walden University, National University, and the like also ostensibly offer Ph.D. programs, but those are something else.

A Ph.D. is worth ten Master's, as they say. This may be an overstatement but is revealing. It is true that most industry professional-turned faculty of practice only have an MBA or Master's or even an undergraduate degree, but their intrinsic value as adjunct educators almost solely lies in their wealth of practical experience and wisdom accumulated over many years to offer.

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