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作者: miawang00088 时间: 2023-4-11 07:39
同意！

作者: miawang00088 时间: 2023-4-11 07:48
1 canal 成本低所以用其来运输
weak：canal还有其他的缺点，比如易损
2 体育锻炼crp下降
喝药crp也下降
体育锻炼作用=运动作用
评价：durg是通过影响其他从而影响了crp 水平吗
3 c

作者: svdw 时间: 2023-4-11 08:41
同意！

作者: Cocoboyxx 时间: 2023-4-11 09:48

1.大型器材的运输

某municipality在讨论在港口建某项目需要的大型器材究竟该怎么从内陆运过来。用公路运输比较贵，用一个半废弃的canal运输的运输成本比公路低很多，所以建议使用canal

问weaken

F：某municipality在讨论在港口建某项目需要的大型器材究竟该怎么从内陆运过来

P：用公路运输比较贵，用一个半废弃的canal运输的运输成本比公路低很多

C：所以建议使用canal

Q：问削弱

思路：找除了运输成本以外的缺点

方向：canal虽然运输成本低，但是器材装卸需要的人工费比公路运输的高

2.心血管疾病

C-reactive protein level是arterialinflammation（动脉炎症）的indicator。而arterial inflammation是cardiovascular diseases（心血管疾病）的一种。有一组实验，进行体育锻炼的人血液内C-reactive protein的level下降.对照组中使用某种drug的人CRP也有drop。医生的结论是：这种drug对于降低心血管疾病风险的作用跟运动一样

问evaluate

F：C-reactive protein level是arterialinflammation（动脉炎症）的indicator；而arterial inflammation是cardiovascular diseases（心血管疾病）的一种

P：有一组实验，进行体育锻炼的人血液内C-reactive protein的level下降。对照组中使用某种drug的人CRP也有drop

C：这种drug对于降低心血管疾病风险的作用跟运动一样

Q：问评价

思路：类比推理，找除此之外的不同点

方向：除了CRP变化外其他方面是否有差不多的变化

3.住院病人

City Official: At City Hospital, uninsured patients tend to have shorter stays and fewer proceduresperformed than do insured patients, even though insured patients, onaverage, have slightly less serious medical problems at the time of admissionto the hospital than uninsured patients have. Critics of the hospital haveconcluded that the uninsured patients are not receiving proper medical care. However, this conclusion is almost certainly false.Careful investigation has recently shown two things: insured patients have much longer stays in the hospital thannecessary, and they tend to have more procedures performed than are medicallynecessary.

In the city official’s argument, the two boldface portions playwhich of the following roles?

A. The first states the conclusion of the city official’s argument;the second provides support for that conclusion.

B. The first is used to support the conclusion of the city official’sargument; the second states that conclusion.

C. The first was used to support the conclusion drawn by hospitalcritics; the second states the position that the city official’s argumentopposes.

D. The first was used to support the conclusion drawn by hospitalcritics; the second provides support for the conclusion of the city official’sargument.

E. The first states the position that the city official’s argumentopposes; the second states the conclusion of the city official’s argument.

Q：黑脸

C：（Critics of hospital）Critics of the hospital have concluded that the uninsured patientsare not receiving proper medical care

（CityOfficial）hospital critics‘ conclusion is almost certainly false

方向：两个都是前提/证据 ①支持Critics ofhospital的结论②反驳City official立场的证据

答案：C

作者: Treeeeeevor.zz 时间: 2023-4-11 09:53
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作者: OuyangYang 时间: 2023-4-11 11:24
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作者: OuyangYang 时间: 2023-4-11 11:54
1. P：公路运输贵，半废弃的canal运输比公路便宜
C：用canal运输
问削弱
解题方向：我觉得这是一个类比题，即要考虑是不是公路运输和canal运输只有在运输成本上不一致。有可能采用这种方式会带来其他的成本。例如装卸、存储、时效等带来的其他问题。

2. P：锻炼让血液内的C物质含量下降，用某种drug也让C物质下降
C：两种方式产生的作用一样
问评价
解题方向：我觉得这是一个因果题，我当前的想法是通过架桥去看两种方式产生作用的机理是否一样，还有就是这个下降的本质是否是一样的，例如其中某一个可能只是短暂下降然后反弹，是一个虚假的。

作者: luzitao630 时间: 2023-4-11 12:36
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作者: 楓羽_ 时间: 2023-4-11 12:45
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作者: luzitao630 时间: 2023-4-11 12:52
某municipality在讨论在港口建某项目需要的大型器材究竟该怎么从内陆运过来. 用公路运输比较贵, 用一个半废弃的canal运输的运输成本比公路低很多, 所以建议使用canal.
P: 用废弃运河的运输成本比公路低很多; C: 所以, 应该使用废弃运河运输
GAP: 只考虑到了成本没考虑到别的因素
问weaken
废弃运河的局限性, 公路运输的优越性
C-reactive protein level是arterial inflammation (动脉炎症) 的indicator. 而arterial inflammation是cardiovascular diseases (心血管疾病) 的一种. 有一组实验, 进行体育锻炼的人血液内C-reactive protein的level下降. 对照组中使用某种drug的人CRP也有drop。医生的结论是: 这种drug对于降低心血管疾病风险的作用跟运动一样.
P: 体育锻炼降低了CRP, 同时吃药也降低了CRP; C: 使用药物对降低新血管疾病的作用和运动一样
如何评估上面的观点
那些运动的人是不是没什么心血管疾病才会去锻炼的?
样本量有多少?
City Official: At City Hospital, uninsured patients tend to have shorter stays and fewer procedures performed than do insured patients, even though insured patients, on average, have slightly less serious medical problems at the time of admission to the hospital than uninsured patients have. Critics of the hospital have concluded that the uninsured patients are not receiving proper medical care. However, this conclusion is almost certainly false. Careful investigation has recently shown two things: insured patients have much longer stays in the hospital than necessary, and they tend to have more procedures performed than are medically necessary.
In the city official’s argument, the two boldface portions play which of the following roles?
The first was used to support the conclusion drawn by hospital critics; the second provides support for the conclusion of the city official’s argument.

作者: 楓羽_ 时间: 2023-4-11 13:00
Day 182
1.       大型器材的运输
某municipality在讨论在港口建某项目需要的大型器材究竟该怎么从内陆运过来。用公路运输比较贵，用一个半废弃的canal运输的运输成本比公路低很多，所以建议使用canal
问weaken思路：用canal可能會無法成功運輸過來、或是有其他重大危害
其他可能答案：廢棄的canal維修的成本高於公路運輸

2.       心血管疾病
C-reactive protein level是arterial inflammation（动脉炎症）的indicator。而arterial inflammation是cardiovascular diseases（心血管疾病）的一种。有一组实验，进行体育锻炼的人血液内C-reactive protein的level下降.对照组中使用某种drug的人CRP也有drop。医生的结论是：这种drug对于降低心血管疾病风险的作用跟运动一样
问evaluate
思路：相反來實驗是否也是這樣的結果、是否有其他因素導致
更正：結果一樣，但過程可能不同：drug是否與心血管疾病有直接關聯

3.       住院病人
City Official: At City Hospital, uninsured patients tend to have shorter stays and fewer procedures performed than do insured patients, even though insured patients, on average, have slightly less serious medical problems at the time of admission to the hospital than uninsured patients have. Critics of the hospital have concluded that the uninsured patients are not receiving proper medical care. However, this conclusion is almost certainly false. Careful investigation has recently shown two things: insured patients have much longer stays in the hospital than necessary, and they tend to have more procedures performed than are medically necessary.
In the city official’s argument, the two boldface portions play which of the following roles?

A. The first states the conclusion of the city official’s argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
B. The first is used to support the conclusion of the city official’s argument; the second states that conclusion.
C. The first was used to support the conclusion drawn by hospital critics; the second states the position that the city official’s argument opposes.
D. The first was used to support the conclusion drawn by hospital critics; the second provides support for the conclusion of the city official’s argument.
E. The first states the position that the city official’s argument opposes; the second states the conclusion of the city official’s argument.
E

作者: 顾周i 时间: 2023-4-11 13:15
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作者: 顾周i 时间: 2023-4-11 13:28
Day 182
1.       大型器材的运输
某municipality在讨论在港口建某项目需要的大型器材究竟该怎么从内陆运过来。用公路运输比较贵，用一个半废弃的canal运输的运输成本比公路低很多，所以建议使用canal
问weaken

削弱：有其他成本最后总成本下来canal比公路贵

2.       心血管疾病
C-reactive protein level是arterial inflammation（动脉炎症）的indicator。而arterial inflammation是cardiovascular diseases（心血管疾病）的一种。有一组实验，进行体育锻炼的人血液内C-reactive protein的level下降.对照组中使用某种drug的人CRP也有drop。医生的结论是：这种drug对于降低心血管疾病风险的作用跟运动一样
问evaluate

服用drug的人是否也锻炼了？

3.       住院病人
City Official: At City Hospital, uninsured patients tend to have shorter stays and fewer procedures performed than do insured patients, even though insured patients, on average, have slightly less serious medical problems at the time of admission to the hospital than uninsured patients have. Critics of the hospital have concluded that the uninsured patients are not receiving proper medical care. However, this conclusion is almost certainly false. Careful investigation has recently shown two things: insured patients have much longer stays in the hospital than necessary, and they tend to have more procedures performed than are medically necessary.
In the city official’s argument, the two boldface portions play which of the following roles?

A. The first states the conclusion of the city official’s argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
B. The first is used to support the conclusion of the city official’s argument; the second states that conclusion.
C. The first was used to support the conclusion drawn by hospital critics; the second states the position that the city official’s argument opposes.
D. The first was used to support the conclusion drawn by hospital critics; the second provides support for the conclusion of the city official’s argument.
E. The first states the position that the city official’s argument opposes; the second states the conclusion of the city official’s argument.

E

作者: Clara006 时间: 2023-4-11 13:33
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作者: Nora小碗 时间: 2023-4-11 14:46
1. 方向：清理成本高

2.作用机理是一样的

3. d

作者: DonkeyG 时间: 2023-4-11 14:58

1. 大型器材的运输
某municipality在讨论在港口建某项目需要的大型器材究竟该怎么从内陆运过来。用公路运输比较贵，用一个半废弃的canal运输的运输成本比公路低很多，所以建议使用canal
问weaken

Canal运输很可能破坏器材。

2. 心血管疾病
C-reactive proteinlevel是arterial inflammation（动脉炎症）的indicator。而arterial inflammation是cardiovasculardiseases（心血管疾病）的一种。有一组实验，进行体育锻炼的人血液内C-reactive protein的level下降.对照组中使用某种drug的人CRP也有drop。医生的结论是：这种drug对于降低心血管疾病风险的作用跟运动一样
问evaluate

需要判断这个C level是否也是其他病症的indicator。

3. 住院病人
City Official: AtCity Hospital, uninsured patients tend to have shorter stays and fewerprocedures performed than do insured patients, even though insuredpatients, on average, have slightly less serious medical problems at the timeof admission to the hospital than uninsured patients have. Critics of thehospital have concluded that the uninsured patients are not receiving propermedical care. However, this conclusion is almost certainly false. Carefulinvestigation has recently shown two things: insured patients have muchlonger stays in the hospital than necessary, and they tend to have moreprocedures performed than are medically necessary.
In the cityofficial’s argument, the two boldface portions play which ofthe following roles?

A. The first statesthe conclusion of the city official’s argument; the secondprovides support for that conclusion.
B. The first isused to support the conclusion of the city official’sargument; the second states that conclusion.
C. The first wasused to support the conclusion drawn by hospital critics; the second states theposition that the city official’s argument opposes.
D. The first wasused to support the conclusion drawn by hospital critics; the second providessupport for the conclusion of the city official’sargument.
E. The first statesthe position that the city official’s argument opposes; thesecond states the conclusion of the city official’sargument.

作者: 小虎v 时间: 2023-4-11 15:31
做题

作者: 小虎v 时间: 2023-4-11 15:45
Day 182
1.       大型器材的运输
某municipality在讨论在港口建某项目需要的大型器材究竟该怎么从内陆运过来。用公路运输比较贵，用一个半废弃的canal运输的运输成本比公路低很多，所以建议使用canal
问weaken
参照：在运输这个问题上不能只考虑价钱，价钱低是有点，但是还有其他的缺点比如说损耗，运输周期长，既然是半废弃说明在运输过程中还会有突发事件

2.       心血管疾病
C-reactive protein level是arterial inflammation（动脉炎症）的indicator。而arterial inflammation是cardiovascular diseases（心血管疾病）的一种。有一组实验，进行体育锻炼的人血液内C-reactive protein的level下降.对照组中使用某种drug的人CRP也有drop。医生的结论是：这种drug对于降低心血管疾病风险的作用跟运动一样
问evaluate
参照：题目假设了C-reactive protein level 低跟 cardiovascular diseases 是因果关系，需要验证是否真的是因果关系
服用这种drug对 arterial inflammation 是否有影响

3.       住院病人
City Official: At City Hospital, uninsured patients tend to have shorter stays and fewer procedures performed than do insured patients, even though insured patients, on average, have slightly less serious medical problems at the time of admission to the hospital than uninsured patients have. Critics of the hospital have concluded that the uninsured patients are not receiving proper medical care. However, this conclusion is almost certainly false. Careful investigation has recently shown two things: insured patients have much longer stays in the hospital than necessary, and they tend to have more procedures performed than are medically necessary.
In the city official’s argument, the two boldface portions play which of the following roles?

我找不到boldface是哪两句话

作者: Clara006 时间: 2023-4-11 17:11
1.       大型器材的运输
某municipality在讨论在港口建某项目需要的大型器材究竟该怎么从内陆运过来。用公路运输比较贵，用一个半废弃的canal运输的运输成本比公路低很多，所以建议使用canal
问weaken
P：用公路运输比较贵，用一个半废弃的canal运输的运输成本比公路低很多
方案：使用canal运输
方向：成本并没有降低，反而会有增加出其他的很多成本

2.       心血管疾病
C-reactive protein level是arterial inflammation（动脉炎症）的indicator。而arterial inflammation是cardiovascular diseases（心血管疾病）的一种。有一组实验，进行体育锻炼的人血液内C-reactive protein的level下降.对照组中使用某种drug的人CRP也有drop。医生的结论是：这种drug对于降低心血管疾病风险的作用跟运动一样
问evaluate
相关因果
方向：相关性不存在；独立第三方因素；
*更正：两者作用机理不同
         是否控制变量

3.       住院病人
City Official: At City Hospital, uninsured patients tend to have shorter stays and fewer procedures performed than do insured patients, even though insured patients, on average, have slightly less serious medical problems at the time of admission to the hospital than uninsured patients have. Critics of the hospital have concluded that the uninsured patients are not receiving proper medical care. However, this conclusion is almost certainly false. Careful investigations have recently shown two things: insured patients have much longer stays in the hospital than necessary, and they tend to have more procedures performed than are medically necessary.
In the city official’s argument, the two boldface portions play which of the following roles?

A. The first states the conclusion of the city official’s argument; the second provides support for that conclusion.
B. The first is used to support the conclusion of the city official’s argument; the second states that conclusion.
C. The first was used to support the conclusion drawn by hospital critics; the second states the position that the city official’s argument opposes.
D. The first was used to support the conclusion drawn by hospital critics; the second provides support for the conclusion of the city official’s argument.
E. The first states the position that the city official’s argument opposes; the second states the conclusion of the city official’s argument.

C
第一句话支持Critics的观点
第二句话是City Official的结论

作者: abc1654 时间: 2023-4-12 05:51
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