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标题: [揽瓜阁逻辑小分队] day175

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作者: miawang00088 时间: 2023-4-4 07:34
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作者: miawang00088 时间: 2023-4-4 07:54
1. 新方法可以实施且实施后不伤害eco
换一个新的方法不罚款，降低公司成本：新方法除了不罚款外，成本也不超过之前方法
2. e
3. 颁布更长的patent可以增加药企的利润，会让药企在孩子身上用药实验

作者: Erica2022 时间: 2023-4-4 09:29
Thanks

作者: Nora小碗 时间: 2023-4-4 09:59
看一下！

作者: Nora小碗 时间: 2023-4-4 10:02
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作者: Nora小碗 时间: 2023-4-4 10:15
v1. 方向：其他优点
v2.方向：新的东西替换成本很低，不会对成本造成很大影响；新的东西没有维护成本

2.e

3.延长Patent会让企业更多选择在孩子身上做实验；延长了patent让在孩子身上做实验的这个事情时间上可行；延长了patent不会让企业为了利润最大化而选择时间更短花费更少的大人实验

作者: Cocoboyxx 时间: 2023-4-4 10:27

1. Ecosystem

V1说什么一个公司原来的抓scallop的方法很伤害ecosystem，现在有一个新的方法可以不伤害ecosystem,所以应该要用这个新的方法

问加强…

V2某海洋公司的”某个东西”(估计是船还是船桨什么的)会对一种生物和coral造成伤害,引起ecosystem的不平行,受到政府的罚款.所以这公司manager建议换一个新的这个东西,就能不会破坏生态平行和coral, 并且不会受到罚款, 降低公司成本…

问加强

F：某海洋公司的“某个东西”(估计是船还是船桨什么的)会对一种生物和coral造成伤害，引起ecosystem的不平衡，受到政府的罚款

P：？

C：公司manager建议换一个新的这个东西，就能不会破坏生态平行和coral, 并且不会受到罚款, 降低公司成本

Q：问加强

思路：新产品与旧产品相比的优点；

方向：新产品成本低使用方便；新产品使用起来效率不比旧产品低

2. Winemaker

Many winemakers use cork stoppers; but cork stoppers can leak,crumble, or became moldy, so that those winemakers must often discard asignificant proportion of their inventory of bottled wine. Bottlemaster plasticstoppers, which cannot leak, crumble, or mold, have long been available towinemakers, at a price slightly higher than that of traditional cork stoppers.Cork prices, however are expected to rise dramatically in the near future.Clearly, therefore, winemakers who stilluse cork but wish to keep production costs from rising will be forced toreconsider plastic stoppers. And since the wine-buying public’s associationof plastic stoppers with poor-quality wine is weakening, there is an excellent chance that the Bottlemaster plastic stopper willgain an increased share of the market for wine-bottle stoppers.

In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which ofthe following roles?

A) The first is a judgment that has been advanced in support of aposition that the argument opposes; the second is the main conclusion of theargument.

B) The first is a judgment that has been advanced in support of aposition that the argument opposes; the second is conclusion drawn in order tosupport the main conclusion of the argument.

C) The first is the main conclusion of the argument; the secondprovides evidence in support of that main conclusion.

D) The first is the main conclusion of the argument; the second is arestatement of that main conclusion.

E) The first is a conclusion drawn in order to support the mainconclusion of the argument; the second is that main conclusion

Q：黑脸问作用

思路：①非事实（evidence）②一个conclusion

选项：①中间结论 ②主结论 E

3.孩子的药

那个政府为了鼓励在小孩身上做药检验而给医药企业颁布更长时期的 patent，题干是说医药企业多在大人身上试验儿童用药，但是儿童和大人生理结构不一样，因此政府要鼓励在小孩身上用药，而医药企业的主要利润是来自 patent 期限，所以颁布更长的 patent 可以取得政府所要的结果。问的是假设

F：医药企业多在大人身上试验儿童用药，但是儿童和大人生理结构不一样，因此政府要鼓励在小孩身上用药

P：医药企业的主要利润是来自patent 期限

C：所以颁布更长的 patent 可以取得政府所要的结果

Q：问假设

思路：关联儿童药实验与patent期限延长

方向：儿童实验成本高，patent期限变长，预期利润变多，医药企业为了药品有足够的竞争力会投入更多资金进行儿童实验

作者: 顾周i 时间: 2023-4-4 12:36
Mark一下！

作者: 顾周i 时间: 2023-4-4 13:37
Day 175
1.       Ecosystem
V1说什么一个公司原来的抓scallop的方法很伤害ecosystem，现在有一个新的方法可以不伤害ecosystem,所以应该要用这个新的方法
问加强…
V2某海洋公司的”某个东西”(估计是船还是船桨什么的)会对一种生物和coral造成伤害,引起ecosystem的不平行,受到政府的罚款.所以这公司manager建议换一个新的这个东西,就能不会破坏生态平行和coral, 并且不会受到罚款, 降低公司成本…
问加强

方案题：新方法会不会伤害别的生物，然后间接导致生态系统不平衡
新方法的使用成本是否会过高吗——罚钱变少但是支出变多了

2.       Winemaker
Many winemakers use cork stoppers; but cork stoppers can leak, crumble, or became moldy, so that those winemakers must often discard a significant proportion of their inventory of bottled wine. Bottlemaster plastic stoppers, which cannot leak, crumble, or mold, have long been available to winemakers, at a price slightly higher than that of traditional cork stoppers. Cork prices, however are expected to rise dramatically in the near future. Clearly, therefore, winemakers who still use cork but wish to keep production costs from rising will be forced to reconsider plastic stoppers. And since the wine-buying public’s association of plastic stoppers with poor-quality wine is weakening, there is an excellent chance that the Bottlemaster plastic stopper will gain an increased share of the market for wine-bottle stoppers.
In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?
A)    The first is a judgment that has been advanced in support of a position that the argument opposes; the second is the main conclusion of the argument.
B)    The first is a judgment that has been advanced in support of a position that the argument opposes; the second is conclusion drawn in order to support the main conclusion of the argument.
C)    The first is the main conclusion of the argument; the second provides evidence in support of that main conclusion.
D)    The first is the main conclusion of the argument; the second is a restatement of that main conclusion.
E)    The first is a conclusion drawn in order to support the main conclusion of the argument; the second is that main conclusion

E（第一句是中间结论，第二句是总结论）

3.       孩子的药
就是寂静中已经有的,那个政府为了鼓励在小孩身上做药检验而给医药企业颁布更长时期的 patent, 提干是说医药企业多在大人身上试验儿童用药,但是儿童和大人生理结构不一样,因此政府要鼓励在小孩身上用药,而医药企业的主要利润是来自 patent 期限,所以颁布更长的 patent 可以取得政府所要的结果。问的是假设

方案题：
方案可以达成目的，那么需要排他因（无他因干扰在小孩身上试验达成药物发明）

作者: luzitao630 时间: 2023-4-4 14:45
NB

作者: DonkeyG 时间: 2023-4-4 16:42

1. Ecosystem
V1说什么一个公司原来的抓scallop的方法很伤害ecosystem，现在有一个新的方法可以不伤害ecosystem,所以应该要用这个新的方法
问加强…

V2某海洋公司的”某个东西”(估计是船还是船桨什么的)会对一种生物和coral造成伤害,引起ecosystem的不平行,受到政府的罚款.所以这公司manager建议换一个新的这个东西,就能不会破坏生态平行和coral, 并且不会受到罚款, 降低公司成本…
问加强

新方法不伤害ecosystem之类的，也可能说一下钱上的事儿总体下来是降低成本

2.    Winemaker
Many winemakers usecork stoppers; but cork stoppers can leak, crumble, or became moldy, so thatthose winemakers must often discard a significant proportion of their inventoryof bottled wine. Bottlemaster plastic stoppers, which cannot leak, crumble, ormold, have long been available to winemakers, at a price slightly higher thanthat of traditional cork stoppers. Cork prices, however are expected to risedramatically in the near future. Clearly, therefore, winemakers who still use cork but wish to keepproduction costs from rising will be forced to reconsider plastic stoppers. And since the wine-buying public’sassociation of plastic stoppers with poor-quality wine is weakening, there is an excellent chance that theBottlemaster plastic stopper will gain an increased share of the market forwine-bottle stoppers.
In the argumentgiven, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?
A)    The first is a judgment that has been advanced in support ofa position that the argument opposes; the second is the main conclusion of theargument.
B)    The first is a judgment that has been advanced in support ofa position that the argument opposes; the second is conclusion drawn in orderto support the main conclusion of the argument.
C)    The first is the main conclusion of the argument; the secondprovides evidence in support of that main conclusion.
D)    The first is the main conclusion of the argument; the secondis a restatement of that main conclusion.
E)    The first is a conclusion drawn in order to support the mainconclusion of the argument; the second is that main conclusion

E

3. 孩子的药
就是寂静中已经有的,那个政府为了鼓励在小孩身上做药检验而给医药企业颁布更长时期的 patent, 提干是说医药企业多在大人身上试验儿童用药,但是儿童和大人生理结构不一样,因此政府要鼓励在小孩身上用药,而医药企业的主要利润是来自 patent 期限,所以颁布更长的patent 可以取得政府所要的结果。问的是假设

这个时间的延长是能够带来很多利润的，因为这个延长是20年后的延长了，那个时候是否还能有收益吗，且这个收益多吗？

作者: xxxx44 时间: 2023-4-4 19:42
day 175
1.
[V1] P: 旧技术伤害生态，新技术不会
C: 应该改用新技术
加强：新技术效用和旧技术相同
[V2]P：旧设备危害生态，会被罚款
C: manager建议换新设备，不破坏平衡也不会被罚款

2. P: 传统瓶塞封闭性不好，塑料瓶塞成本太高，但瓶塞成本将会上涨
C: 酒生产商将会考虑塑料瓶塞
公众对于塑料瓶塞是便宜酒的认知改变，塑料酒瓶塞生产商扩张版图的大好时机

3. P1: 药品利润主要来自专利期
P2：政府需要儿童做临床试验
C: 政府延长专利期限
假设：利润足够使药品生产商原意考虑儿童临床试验

作者: abc1654 时间: 2023-4-5 09:50
看一下！

作者: DDivy 时间: 2023-4-5 10:37
看一下！

作者: 楓羽_ 时间: 2023-4-5 15:28
看一下！

作者: 楓羽_ 时间: 2023-4-5 15:44
Day 175
1.       Ecosystem
V1说什么一个公司原来的抓scallop的方法很伤害ecosystem，现在有一个新的方法可以不伤害ecosystem,所以应该要用这个新的方法
问加强…
V2某海洋公司的”某个东西”(估计是船还是船桨什么的)会对一种生物和coral造成伤害,引起ecosystem的不平行,受到政府的罚款.所以这公司manager建议换一个新的这个东西,就能不会破坏生态平行和coral, 并且不会受到罚款, 降低公司成本…
问加强
思路：新方法可以有效地抓到scallop、新方法的成本不高

2.       Winemaker
E

3.       孩子的药
就是寂静中已经有的,那个政府为了鼓励在小孩身上做药检验而给医药企业颁布更长时期的 patent, 提干是说医药企业多在大人身上试验儿童用药,但是儿童和大人生理结构不一样,因此政府要鼓励在小孩身上用药,而医药企业的主要利润是来自 patent 期限,所以颁布更长的 patent 可以取得政府所要的结果。问的是假设

思路：家常專利，醫藥企業就會在小孩身上用藥
更正：
目的：在小孩身上用藥
方案：延長專利(廠商有動力在小孩升上用藥)
假設：沒有其他的干擾因素，確定可行性。沒有其他的新藥來破壞廠商的獨一性，讓廠商有動力試藥

作者: Ak777 时间: 2023-4-6 09:13
同意！

作者: Ak777 时间: 2023-4-6 10:05
Day 175
1.       Ecosystem
V1说什么一个公司原来的抓scallop的方法很伤害ecosystem，现在有一个新的方法可以不伤害ecosystem,所以应该要用这个新的方法
问加强…
V2某海洋公司的”某个东西”(估计是船还是船桨什么的)会对一种生物和coral造成伤害,引起ecosystem的不平行,受到政府的罚款.所以这公司manager建议换一个新的这个东西,就能不会破坏生态平行和coral, 并且不会受到罚款, 降低公司成本…
问加强
-新方法在其他方面不会更糟

2.       Winemaker
Many winemakers use cork stoppers; but cork stoppers can leak, crumble, or became moldy, so that those winemakers must often discard a significant proportion of their inventory of bottled wine. Bottlemaster plastic stoppers, which cannot leak, crumble, or mold, have long been available to winemakers, at a price slightly higher than that of traditional cork stoppers. Cork prices, however are expected to rise dramatically in the near future. Clearly, therefore, winemakers who still use cork but wish to keep production costs from rising will be forced to reconsider plastic stoppers. And since the wine-buying public’s association of plastic stoppers with poor-quality wine is weakening, there is an excellent chance that the Bottlemaster plastic stopper will gain an increased share of the market for wine-bottle stoppers.
In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?
A)    The first is a judgment that has been advanced in support of a position that the argument opposes; the second is the main conclusion of the argument.
B)    The first is a judgment that has been advanced in support of a position that the argument opposes; the second is conclusion drawn in order to support the main conclusion of the argument.
C)    The first is the main conclusion of the argument; the second provides evidence in support of that main conclusion.
D)    The first is the main conclusion of the argument; the second is a restatement of that main conclusion.
E)    The first is a conclusion drawn in order to support the main conclusion of the argument; the second is that main conclusion
-E

3.       孩子的药
就是寂静中已经有的,那个政府为了鼓励在小孩身上做药检验而给医药企业颁布更长时期的 patent, 提干是说医药企业多在大人身上试验儿童用药,但是儿童和大人生理结构不一样,因此政府要鼓励在小孩身上用药,而医药企业的主要利润是来自 patent 期限,所以颁布更长的 patent 可以取得政府所要的结果。问的是假设
-patent与激励在小孩身上试药，搭桥。比如之前是因为专利短，为保证利润，被迫在见效快的大人身上去试

作者: OneForTheRoad 时间: 2023-4-7 23:58
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作者: OneForTheRoad 时间: 2023-4-8 00:07
Day 175
1.       Ecosystem
V1说什么一个公司原来的抓scallop的方法很伤害ecosystem，现在有一个新的方法可以不伤害ecosystem,所以应该要用这个新的方法
问加强…
V2某海洋公司的”某个东西”(估计是船还是船桨什么的)会对一种生物和coral造成伤害,引起ecosystem的不平行,受到政府的罚款.所以这公司manager建议换一个新的这个东西,就能不会破坏生态平行和coral, 并且不会受到罚款, 降低公司成本…
问加强
- 这个新方法被政府支持？

2.       Winemaker
Many winemakers use cork stoppers; but cork stoppers can leak, crumble, or became moldy, so that those winemakers must often discard a significant proportion of their inventory of bottled wine. Bottlemaster plastic stoppers, which cannot leak, crumble, or mold, have long been available to winemakers, at a price slightly higher than that of traditional cork stoppers. Cork prices, however are expected to rise dramatically in the near future. Clearly, therefore, winemakers who still use cork but wish to keep production costs from rising will be forced to reconsider plastic stoppers. And since the wine-buying public’s association of plastic stoppers with poor-quality wine is weakening, there is an excellent chance that the Bottlemaster plastic stopper will gain an increased share of the market for wine-bottle stoppers.
In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?
A)    The first is a judgment that has been advanced in support of a position that the argument opposes; the second is the main conclusion of the argument.
B)    The first is a judgment that has been advanced in support of a position that the argument opposes; the second is conclusion drawn in order to support the main conclusion of the argument.
C)    The first is the main conclusion of the argument; the second provides evidence in support of that main conclusion.
D)    The first is the main conclusion of the argument; the second is a restatement of that main conclusion.
E)    The first is a conclusion drawn in order to support the main conclusion of the argument; the second is that main conclusion
E

3.       孩子的药
就是寂静中已经有的,那个政府为了鼓励在小孩身上做药检验而给医药企业颁布更长时期的 patent, 提干是说医药企业多在大人身上试验儿童用药,但是儿童和大人生理结构不一样,因此政府要鼓励在小孩身上用药,而医药企业的主要利润是来自 patent 期限,所以颁布更长的 patent 可以取得政府所要的结果。问的是假设
- 更长时期的patent让医药企业愿意去在小孩身上做要检验

作者: Rhythmicic 时间: 2023-4-9 21:59
dd

作者: Rhythmicic 时间: 2023-4-9 22:01
1.新方法成本不是非常大
2.E
3.利润高到可以让药品生产商可以考虑儿童的临床试验

作者: 路卡卡 时间: 2023-4-9 22:24
Mark一下！

作者: harper123456 时间: 2023-4-15 17:26
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