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标题: disclose disability是好还是坏,还是没有影响呢 [打印本页]

作者: 许时知风晚    时间: 2022-11-21 13:15
标题: disclose disability是好还是坏,还是没有影响呢
如题,今年申请了一些全职RA和pre-doc的岗位,每个工作都会有这个选项。本人有disability,但是没有到需要学校额外提供recommendation的程度,需要披露自己的情况吗?
作者: 吃豌豆的小熊    时间: 2022-11-21 13:29
如实填写就好,一般不会有影响
作者: 许时知风晚    时间: 2022-11-23 15:59
吃豌豆的小熊 发表于 2022-11-21 13:29
如实填写就好,一般不会有影响

好滴谢谢~( ̄▽ ̄~)~
作者: Tripleg    时间: 2022-11-23 21:01
The admission committee takes no more than a cursory glance at an applicant's application form, usually as the item placed on top of his/her package. That said, in case the disability noted therein catches their eyes, that will almost surely adversely affect his/her chances, especially if the candidate pool is particularly strong overall. Remember, the idea of working with a student with a disability generally does not appeal to a faculty member.

My take is that if the condition is minor or whether it is considered a disability is country/culture - specific, you do not have to include such information. Otherwise, in order to be on the safe side only apply to those where reporting disabilities is optional.
作者: 许时知风晚    时间: 2022-11-23 23:19
Tripleg 发表于 2022-11-23 21:01
The admission committee takes no more than a cursory glance at an applicant's application form, usua ...

I also see many universities claim that they would always hire at least 7% of individuals with disability. I'm wondering if there is an invisible quota for people with disability in job application like pre-doc or faculty members hiring. Sometimes I hear you can contribute to diversity when disclosing your disability.
作者: Tripleg    时间: 2022-11-24 01:04
许时知风晚 发表于 2022-11-23 23:19
I also see many universities claim that they would always hire at least 7% of individuals with dis ...

Disregard those pieces of misleading, nonsensical information. If you disclose a disability on your application form, and it is noted by the committee, you will almost surely be discriminated against.
作者: raccoon_paw    时间: 2022-11-24 01:07
许时知风晚 发表于 2022-11-23 23:19
I also see many universities claim that they would always hire at least 7% of individuals with dis ...

我个人直觉同意LS的观点,建议不要说。你不是disability的美国人,diversity这种好事一般不太会考虑international student特别是东亚学生。
作者: Tripleg    时间: 2022-11-24 01:08
raccoon_paw 发表于 2022-11-24 01:07
我个人直觉同意LS的观点,建议不要说。你不是disability的美国人,diversity这种好事一般不太会考虑inter ...

You said it, raccoon-paw! Do not disclose anything if you want your Ph.D. application to be successful.

作者: 吃豌豆的小熊    时间: 2022-11-24 06:05
disclose disability那边一般要求打勾之类。如果有却故意选择没有,这不是lying吗?即使入学,以后审核你的老师知道了,再回想申请时候你选择的是你没问题,这也会有潜在问题吧。我觉得要是特别在意这个,可以选择申请不需要披露的学校,如果需要,还是诚实来做比较好
作者: raccoon_paw    时间: 2022-11-24 06:25
吃豌豆的小熊 发表于 2022-11-24 06:05
disclose disability那边一般要求打勾之类。如果有却故意选择没有,这不是lying吗?即使入学,以后审核你的 ...

这也不算lying吧,disability的标准在不同国家也不一样,美国你claim back pain都能算disability。这个选项的初衷类似于让你选race and ethnicity。本来是为了照顾弱势群体,但是现在反而变成对其他一些人的伤害了。LZ说他是minor的情况,不影响干活的话我觉得没必要。除非是很严重的,比如失明聋哑人之类的,确实影响了他做RA的能力。
作者: 许时知风晚    时间: 2022-11-24 08:02
吃豌豆的小熊 发表于 2022-11-24 06:05
disclose disability那边一般要求打勾之类。如果有却故意选择没有,这不是lying吗?即使入学,以后审核你的 ...

我今年申请predoc,毕竟是工作,不是PhD,所有的都需要填写那个,不知道他和PhD的标准一不一样…
作者: 许时知风晚    时间: 2022-11-24 08:04
raccoon_paw 发表于 2022-11-24 06:25
这也不算lying吧,disability的标准在不同国家也不一样,美国你claim back pain都能算disability。这个选 ...

我甚至还在申请predoc的cover letter里写了我的disability如何引导我建立其中的一个research interest,这下子所有人都知道了…
作者: raccoon_paw    时间: 2022-11-24 08:52
许时知风晚 发表于 2022-11-24 08:04
我甚至还在申请predoc的cover letter里写了我的disability如何引导我建立其中的一个research interest, ...

只是如果你还没写就建议不用写了。如果是已经写了也不用特别担心,换个角度想,如果真的因为这个歧视你的地方,如果你没写最后去了,还是会受到歧视,这样反而更糟糕。
作者: 许时知风晚    时间: 2022-11-24 10:52
raccoon_paw 发表于 2022-11-24 08:52
只是如果你还没写就建议不用写了。如果是已经写了也不用特别担心,换个角度想,如果真的因为这个歧视你的 ...

确实是这样。谢谢你~




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