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作者: 双双儿 时间: 2017-10-29 21:45
标题: OG2018 SC 750 求助新题QAQ
750. Next month, state wildlife offcials are scheduled to take over the job of increasing the wolf population in the federally designated recovery area, the number of which will however ultimately be dictated by the number of prey in the area.
(A) area, the number of which will however
(B) area; the size of the population, however, will
(C) area, however the number of wolves will
(D) area; the number of which will, however,
(E) area, when the size of the population will, however,
答案：B
我选了C

OG对此题的解释是：
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对C的解释是：
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都不是很能理解，the number of which没有指代？我感觉which就是指wolf population呀；
C中however修饰are scheduled，为什么会有这样的意思，however不就是转折嘛为什么还要关心它修饰谁呢？可以在area后面加一个分号或者在however后面加一个逗号就能解决这个问题？分号和逗号到底都起着什么作用呀？

哪位可以帮忙解释一下吗QAQ

这个题太纠结了都搜不到有讨论的难道是个新题.. 0 0

作者: krystalchenkkk 时间: 2017-10-30 01:34
emmmmm...又是我
很简单，要么是the number of the wolf要么是the population，能理解吗？
这里wolf population是一个noun phrase，which指代不了wolf，如果指代population就重复了。population本身就是数量了，不能the number of the population。
然后C是一个run-on sentence，两个句子用一个逗号就连起来了（however是副词），应该需要一个连词的。
分号的作用就相当于连词，可以连接两个句子。

PS：妹子我回答了你几个问题感觉你的语法完全是混乱的啊。。。基本还没入门，建议先去看看曼哈顿语法~

作者: krystalchenkkk 时间: 2017-10-30 01:35
啊我头像好美！冲着这个头像好想多回复几个问题噢

作者: 双双儿 时间: 2017-10-30 16:05

krystalchenkkk 发表于 2017-10-30 01:34
emmmmm...又是我
很简单，要么是the number of the wolf要么是the population，能理解吗？
这里wolf popula ...

,谢谢你的意见>< 我会去看曼哈顿语法的，现在刚开始做OG SC两三天（破涕为笑

可是the size of population里的size和population不重复嘛。。

我去牛津字典查了however真的只是副词，这个颠覆我的认知2333，谢谢了

另外，你的头像真的很美！拜托了多回答头像也这么美的我的问题

作者: krystalchenkkk 时间: 2017-10-30 16:14

双双儿发表于 2017-10-30 16:05
,谢谢你的意见>< 我会去看曼哈顿语法的，现在刚开始做OG SC两三天（破涕为笑

可是the size of populati ...

有the size of population这个用法呀，百度一下你就知道~

关于重复，可以这么理解吧。

The population of China is balabal可以直接跟数值；
The number of people in China is balabala也可以直接跟数值。

另外number要修饰可数名词噢

作者: SHJ877 时间: 2017-11-4 10:57
B Manhattan SC83
Rule #1: Words Used for Countable Things vs. Words Used for Uncountable Things
Countable Modifiers [MANY/ FEW / FEWER / FEWEST / NUMBER / NUMEROUS]
Number 只可以修饰可数名词

C SC60 You can also connect two independent clauses using a semicolon. 首先分号连接的前后连接的应该是完整的句子
The semicolon is often followed by a transition expression, such as however, therefore, or in addition. Note that these transitional elements are not true conjunctions like and. As a result, you must use semicolons, not commas, to join the sentences.
其次however因为不是真正的连词所以不能用逗号只能用分号

有一点不太明白的是 SC188 The phrase THE number of takes a singular verb, but A number of takes a plural verb.
按理说the number of 后面应该可以接单数名词但是为什么OG说
However, the phrase the number of which has no referent since it cannot logically refer to the noncount noun population or to the singular wolf, which is used adjectivally here to modify population.
求NN解答

作者: Refortuski 时间: 2017-11-4 21:31

SHJ877 发表于 2017-11-4 10:57
B Manhattan SC83
Rule #1: Words Used for Countable Things vs. Words Used for Uncountable Things
Coun ...

楼上有说啊，wolf population中的核心词是population，这里的wolf相当于一个形容词，所以不可以放在the number of后面。

作者: SHJ877 时间: 2017-11-5 09:33

Refortuski 发表于 2017-11-4 21:31
楼上有说啊，wolf population中的核心词是population，这里的wolf相当于一个形容词，所以不可以放在the n ...

Noun-Adjective A noun that is placed in front of another noun and that functions as an adjective.是这个意思吗请问?

还有想请教下这种noun-adjective是不是跟possessive nouns一样呢？都是nouns充当着adjectives的角色？

作者: RichardVeritas 时间: 2017-11-5 11:11
简单说两句。
主从句之间关系有时表达牵强时，更好的做法就是把句子结束，新起一句，像这里B这样。
几个排除点：
the size of population 比 the number 好。尤其the number of which 别扭
however 不加逗号，不做连词，类似whatever 是一种让步意义的副词修饰

作者: Refortuski 时间: 2017-11-5 21:50

SHJ877 发表于 2017-11-5 09:33
Noun-Adjective A noun that is placed in front of another noun and that functions as an adjective. ...

是的。

不一样的，虽然核心词都是后面的名词。
比如：the woman teacher指女老师，是teacher的子集；复数形式为women teachers；且woman不可以用代词指代。
而the woman's teacher指这个女生的老师（等于teacher of the woman），是一种拥有与被拥有的关系；复数形式为woman’s teachers；且woman's可以用her指代。

作者: SHJ877 时间: 2017-11-6 08:58

Refortuski 发表于 2017-11-5 21:50
是的。

不一样的，虽然核心词都是后面的名词。

Mark一下！

作者: Meduse1993 时间: 2018-1-30 22:01
- Population 人口简单来说是个集合名词。the number of 只能修饰可数名词。the number of population 一定是错误搭配。
- 这里的 the number of which，逻辑上which 指代 wolf。但是如OG 所说，wolf 在 wolf population 中所担当的角色是形容词的角色。
ps 我说完这段话感觉我就是在重复 OG 的答案啊。只不过翻译了一下。还是认真看答案比较节约时间哦：）

作者: 啦啦噜啦啦 时间: 2018-12-26 07:30
看见关于C 的讨论插嘴说一句：

However 用法：
using ‘however’ as a conjunctive adverb
1）‘However’ can be used to join two simple sentences to make a compound sentence.
2）‘However’ indicates that the relationship between the two independent clauses is one of contrast or opposition.
eg: The engineers claimed that the bridge was safe; however, they were still not prepared to risk crossing.

Use a semi-colon (;) before and a comma (,) after however when you are using it to write a compound sentence.

总结一下：1）可以用来接句子 2）接的两个句子表达的意思是相反的。（GMAT永远不会去考你however前面是不是分号，good to know, but don't have to remember that kinda detail)

所以我们来看C
state wildlife officials are scheduled to take over .....
however
the number of wolves will be dictated...

这两个句子的句意根本就没有对比的关系。这就是为什么OG在这儿说：however在这儿用作连接词，但是呢however好像是要跟are scheduled唱反调。

附however 用法 link：https://web.sonoma.edu/users/f/farahman/subpages/utilities/however.pdf
还是希望大家不要去记rules，而是去认真体会这些句子究竟在说什么。

作者: 老白在费城 时间: 2019-1-3 07:32
C的问题在于，however 后面不加逗号直接加句子，会造成however意思的歧义。这句话会变成: state wildlife officials are scheduled to take over the job..., however the number of wolves are ultimately be dictated by the number of prey in the area - 意思就变成他们会接管这项工作，不管狼的数量最后怎么会改变。

例句如下 -
I want to run; however, it will rain tomorrow - 我想表达的是，我想去跑步，可是明天会下雨

如果不加逗号这样说

I want to run, however it will rain tomorrow - 这句话就变成了我想去跑步，不管明天怎么下雨。

作者: starry0328 时间: 2023-7-27 15:48

老白在费城发表于 2019-1-3 07:32
C的问题在于，however 后面不加逗号直接加句子，会造成however意思的歧义。这句话会变成: state wildlife o ...

好有道理，谢谢

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