1: Scientists claim that the discovery of the first authenticated mammal bones in amber could provide important clues of determining, in addition to how, when mammals colonized the islands of the
A: of determining, in addition to how, when mammals colonized the islands of the
B: in the determination of how and when the islands of the
C: to determine how mammals colonized the islands of the
D: for determining when the islands of the
E: for determining how and when mammals colonized the islands of the
大家看看应该选那个?我在C和E间打转,觉得C中how,when分得太远,而E中又觉得for determining不太好。NN们帮着看看,谢谢
E
anwer C is wordy.
我选C,虽然觉得C也不是很好。理由主要是觉得provide sth 后面要用 to do, 不能用for doing.
求教
我也觉得应该用to do,不过好多人都选E的说
几个字典的例子,也许有帮助:
Both bone shapes and muscle structure provide clues to identifying the part of the carcass from which a cut is derived.
But the functions provide clues to the mechanisms.
Genetic research may provide clues to overweight.
Not only does the technique have potential in the perfume industry, but it may provide clues about how we perceive smells.
One of us can provide clues or ideas for another, but never answers.
我选C. 我认为此体的解题方向首先是用不定式,再考虑其他.至于他是不是WORDY, 得看作者的表达意向
觉得:c在最后如果加一个so,就不能算错了。最多说它罗嗦。E肯定是最好的。
provide sth.to sb.
provide sb. with sth.
provide sth. for some purposes...认为都是对的。
C的后半段的确没有E简洁
不过我在GOOGLE上都没有搜索到:
provide for ; provide clue for; clue for的结构
所以, 偶还是选C了....
en~~~eseraph, 你说的避免使用"they"是因为避免指代不清楚的问题么?
这里they应该是清楚的指代mammals~因为另外一个复述名词scientists所用的修饰成分都是一般现在式, 而这个they后面用的是一般过去式~
C的后半段的确没有E简洁
不过我在GOOGLE上都没有搜索到:
provide for ; provide clue for; clue for的结构
所以, 偶还是选C了....
One of us can provide clues or ideas for another, but never answers.字典中的例子。
One of us can provide clues or ideas for another, but never answers.字典中的例子。
nod~刚才看到你举的这个例子了`
我觉得这个例子是:" provide sth for sb."
可是题目里面考的是" provide sth to do sth"
也就是说, 问题在于 provide sth for sb to do 用于表达动作目的的后半部分, 能不能用provide sth for sb for doing的形式...
汗,不知道说清楚没有~ 讨论ing...
determine ? who determine?
clue? or discovery? or scientists?
When I took the test, I picked the C.
But when I reviewed it again, I think that the word"they" in C option is confusing.
it is not clear that "they" represents the "mammle bones" , "animals", or "clues".
Actually the Pron. seems to be always the critical factor to rule out the answer.
本题偶选C,原因如下
(1)C中的they很多人认为是指代不清,可是这里没有啊。从逻辑意思上说,they refer to mammals.从语法意思上也是,因为连接when的是个and引导的平行句式。我记得OG某题说过这样的句式从平型角度来说是指代mammals,等我想起是OG哪题再贴上来(不好意思)
(2)C中did refer to colonized.colonized后面的部分可以省略。有网友认为要在did后面加上so.但是这题不需要。请看OG41,上面说to do so 可以指代一个有两个动词的词组(例如:consider to use...)。本题中只有一个动词--colonized,所以不需补出so
(3)我不选E的原因是我在longman上没有看见clue for的结构。
偶是大菜鸟,请各位指正!谢谢!
I agree with E.
'to' is not proper here. (effective error)
Scientists claim the discovery could provide clues
To (目的是为了,做之前有明确目的) determine
for (为...提供线索,做之前不知道目的)determining
vote E, because the sentence meaning looks more briefly and precisely.
Prefer C
首先是因为 to determine。
虽然C把How&When分开了,有些wordy,可是在原句中也是分开的,而且是特别强调了when,所以我觉得没有什么不妥。They 的指代也很清楚是mammals。
33. From the earliest days of the tribe, kinship determined the way in which the Ojibwa society organized its labor, provided access to its resources, and defined rights and obligations involved in the distribution and consumption of those resources.
67.Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newbom children.
174. A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at Yale Law School.
48. Choice D, like A, fails to provide a noun or pronoun to perform the action of living, but even with its the phrases would be more awkward and less clear than it lives.
From OG10th, we could find 4 usage of 'provide'
1.provide sth to sth
2.provide sb with sth
3.provide sth to sb
4.provide sth to do sth
既然没有查到provide sth for doing sth的用法,那可不可能是provide sth(clues to...or clues for...),也就是clues后面的介词是紧跟clues的搭配?很可惜,google上只能查到clues to,查不到clues for的用法
so, i vote for C!
求教 到底选什么啊
I agree with E.
'to' is not proper here. (effective error)
Scientists claim the discovery could provide clues
To (目的是为了,做之前有明确目的) determine
for (为...提供线索,做之前不知道目的)determining
再读了下句子
的确是应了这个说法
本来选C,现在严重同意选E了
而且clue to虽然是固定搭配,但to是介词,应跟n或者动名词
在这里是不对的
选E!
我觉得此题应该选C。
大家中的代词指代的问题我认为不存在,这个they很清楚的表明了是mammals
不谈是for还是 to的用法,至少在gmat里,很少见到 how and when的连接,大家可以查一下。
并且在句子表示习惯上,首先说 how xxxx然后再补充说 when they did是符合表示习惯的,加不加so并不重要,我认为。。。
更何况省略结构通常是省略and后面的内容。。。
基本上没有见到过 省略前半部分的。。。
33. From the earliest days of the tribe, kinship determined the way in which the Ojibwa society organized its labor, provided access to its resources, and defined rights and obligations involved in the distribution and consumption of those resources.
67.Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newbom children.
174. A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at Yale Law School.
48. Choice D, like A, fails to provide a noun or pronoun to perform the action of living, but even with its the phrases would be more awkward and less clear than it lives.
From OG10th, we could find 4 usage of 'provide'
1.provide sth to sth
2.provide sb with sth
3.provide sth to sb
4.provide sth to do sth
既然没有查到provide sth for doing sth的用法,那可不可能是provide sth(clues to...or clues for...),也就是clues后面的介词是紧跟clues的搭配?很可惜,google上只能查到clues to,查不到clues for的用法
so, i vote for C!
agree with joe in 19楼,
cambridge dictionary: We have concerns about whether the government will be able to provide viable social services for poorer families/provide poorer families with viable social services
provide sth for sb
I agree with E.
'to' is not proper here. (effective error)
Scientists claim the discovery could provide clues
To (目的是为了,做之前有明确目的) determine
for (为...提供线索,做之前不知道目的)determining
to 是修饰provide, 表示提供这个cue的目的,代回原题,逻辑语意清悉正确
for跟着cue,表示cue给的对象,给的对象要是人,不是动作,所以在本题不适用
verb form是这题主要的决定因素,即使C有些点wordy,仍是比E的错误好,
本题建议选C
clues to的确是固定搭配,是××的线索,那么这句话里直接clues to how and when mammals...就可以了。所以这里并不是考这个固定搭配,而是为了for determining....
另外C中they的指代问题还是比较大的问题,即便认为they不会引起歧义,那么when they did后面也应该加so.
in short, vote for E
以前选C的, 几天又好好看了讨论帖, 觉得E比C好.
C: 1. they 的指代问题
2. 有人说, did 后缺SO
3. 不够简洁
E: provide sth for some purpose.....某人查到有此用法,
综合上述, 我改选E
个个口口生生说查过字典有provide to do......
是不是真的啊.我怎么没看见的!!?????
你们再拿langman翻看看?
这道题本来在C和E之间摇摆,查了LONGMAN后,发现正确答案应该是B
首先,这里只是provide sth.的用法,而且所谓provide sth. for (目的)的用法LONGMAN里查不到,暂且排除。
其次,clue后的介词应由clue词组来决定。
clue的用法有clue to\about\in(前2者似乎比较常见),但是这题中突出的问题是C中的to之后是动词,无论是google 还是LONGMAN都没找到clue to do的用法(唯一近似的用法是Both bone shapes and muscle structure provide clues to identifying the part of the carcass from which a cut is derived.)。至于clue for,实在是没找到类似的用法。
再回过头看B,clue in determination,但是我觉得也有问题,
1)ETS不prefer有动词形式的名词
2)被动结构
但是觉得其他几个实在找不出支持的理由,只能选它了
NN指教
33. From the earliest days of the tribe, kinship determined the way in which the Ojibwa society organized its labor, provided access to its resources, and defined rights and obligations involved in the distribution and consumption of those resources.
67.Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers provide workers with unpaid leave so as to care for sick or newbom children.
provide workers with....so as to这里的to 是so as to 词组
174. A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at Yale Law School.
这里的provide 是及物动词直接加宾语,后面的to是assistance to 词组
48. Choice D, like A, fails to provide a noun or pronoun to perform the action of living, but even with its the phrases would be more awkward and less clear than it lives.
这个没有划线部分,是不是provide ...to perform那就是要改正的地方呢
From OG10th, we could find 4 usage of 'provide'
1.provide sth to sth
2.provide sb with sth
3.provide sth to sb
4.provide sth to do sth
既然没有查到provide sth for doing sth的用法,那可不可能是provide sth(clues to...or clues for...),也就是clues后面的介词是紧跟clues的搭配?很可惜,google上只能查到clues to,查不到clues for的用法
so, i vote for C!
我觉得上面在OG里找的例子都没有说服力,可能是没仔细看
在longman里是没有provide sth to do ...这种用法的,只有provide sth for ...和provide for...
所以坚持选E
汗滴,都木有人参与讨论了。。。
我参与讨论,我同意E.
C与E比较,还是E的错误少一些,不是大问题.
C的问题比较多,正如前面某个同学的总结.
看了半天就只有一个人选B.没人支持B吗?
C的 they did 不好, E的 for...不好
B的 in in the determination 很地道呀
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从GOOGLE上搜索了一下,发现后面的介词都跟PROVIDE没有关系,这道题C肯定不对了,没有provide to do这个词组,只有provide sth
The scientists said the discovery
could
provide an important clue to how and when mammals -- or any land animals -- colonized the islands of the West Indies.
纽约时报原话,直接跟了how and when,貌似没有正确答案。。。
my 2 cents:
I vote for E
1. GWD28-Q1:
Scientists claim that the discovery of the first authenticated mammal bones in amber could provide important clues C. to determine how mammals colonized the islands of the E. for determining how and when mammals colonized the islands of the 大家讨论的几点:(CE的区别)
1) 不定式和for doing:
有朋友说这里跟provide有关,窃以为determine是做定语修饰clue的,跟provide 没有关系(provide在LDOCE上面的几个习语在这儿也套不上,因为provide 做动词,后面的宾补都是名词形式,不会出现for doing的形式,也没有provide sb sth to do...的用法)
前面 joe NN说to do 表目的, for doing表用途 --这个是大家公认的。那么问题来了,这里到底是表用途呢,还是目的呢?
真的很难简单的从逻辑意思上来分出胜负。
2)C里面they 的指代: they出现在从句里面,所以其指代优先指代的是主句的名词,而不是从句。所以这里they指代有歧义
3)C的they did, 貌似真得加上个so ,才可以, 因为did指代colonize, 是个及物动词,所以后面得跟宾语。
综上,虽然E的for doing看着别扭,但毕竟不是个绝对错误(无法判断这里到底是用途还是目的), 其它都很好。
唉,本来写这帖子是为了给C正名的, 结果,写着写着,自己被E说服了。
C. to determine how mammals colonized the islands of the
E. for determining how and when mammals colonized the islands of the
大家讨论的几点:(CE的区别)
1) 不定式和for doing:
有朋友说这里跟provide有关,窃以为determine是做定语修饰clue的,跟provide 没有关系(provide在LDOCE上面的几个习语在这儿也套不上,因为provide 做动词,后面的宾补都是名词形式,不会出现for doing的形式,也没有provide sb sth to do...的用法)
前面 joe NN说to do 表目的, for doing表用途 --这个是大家公认的。那么问题来了,这里到底是表用途呢,还是目的呢?
真的很难简单的从逻辑意思上来分出胜负。
2)C里面they 的指代: they出现在从句里面,所以其指代优先指代的是主句的名词,而不是从句。所以这里they指代有歧义
3)C的they did, 貌似真得加上个so ,才可以, 因为did指代colonize, 是个及物动词,所以后面得跟宾语。
综上,虽然E的for doing看着别扭,但毕竟不是个绝对错误(无法判断这里到底是用途还是目的), 其它都很好。
唉,本来写这帖子是为了给C正名的, 结果,写着写着,自己被E说服了。
my 2 cents:
I vote for E
1. GWD28-Q1:
Scientists claim that the discovery of the first authenticated mammal bones in amber could provide important clues C. to determine how mammals colonized the islands of the E. for determining how and when mammals colonized the islands of the 大家讨论的几点:(CE的区别) 1) 不定式和for doing: 有朋友说这里跟provide有关,窃以为determine是做定语修饰clue的,跟provide 没有关系(provide在LDOCE上面的几个习语在这儿也套不上,因为provide 做动词,后面的宾补都是名词形式,不会出现for doing的形式,也没有provide sb sth to do...的用法) 前面 joe NN说to do 表目的, for doing表用途 --这个是大家公认的。那么问题来了,这里到底是表用途呢,还是目的呢? 真的很难简单的从逻辑意思上来分出胜负。 2)C里面they 的指代: they出现在从句里面,所以其指代优先指代的是主句的名词,而不是从句。所以这里they指代有歧义 3)C的they did, 貌似真得加上个so ,才可以, 因为did指代colonize, 是个及物动词,所以后面得跟宾语。 综上,虽然E的for doing看着别扭,但毕竟不是个绝对错误(无法判断这里到底是用途还是目的), 其它都很好。 唉,本来写这帖子是为了给C正名的, 结果,写着写着,自己被E说服了。
C. to determine how mammals colonized the islands of the
E. for determining how and when mammals colonized the islands of the
大家讨论的几点:(CE的区别)
1) 不定式和for doing:
有朋友说这里跟provide有关,窃以为determine是做定语修饰clue的,跟provide 没有关系(provide在LDOCE上面的几个习语在这儿也套不上,因为provide 做动词,后面的宾补都是名词形式,不会出现for doing的形式,也没有provide sb sth to do...的用法)
前面 joe NN说to do 表目的, for doing表用途 --这个是大家公认的。那么问题来了,这里到底是表用途呢,还是目的呢?
真的很难简单的从逻辑意思上来分出胜负。
2)C里面they 的指代: they出现在从句里面,所以其指代优先指代的是主句的名词,而不是从句。所以这里they指代有歧义
3)C的they did, 貌似真得加上个so ,才可以, 因为did指代colonize, 是个及物动词,所以后面得跟宾语。
综上,虽然E的for doing看着别扭,但毕竟不是个绝对错误(无法判断这里到底是用途还是目的), 其它都很好。
唉,本来写这帖子是为了给C正名的, 结果,写着写着,自己被E说服了。
C. to determine how mammals colonized the islands of the
E. for determining how and when mammals colonized the islands of the
大家讨论的几点:(CE的区别)
1) 不定式和for doing:
有朋友说这里跟provide有关,窃以为determine是做定语修饰clue的,跟provide 没有关系(provide在LDOCE上面的几个习语在这儿也套不上,因为provide 做动词,后面的宾补都是名词形式,不会出现for doing的形式,也没有provide sb sth to do...的用法)
前面 joe NN说to do 表目的, for doing表用途 --这个是大家公认的。那么问题来了,这里到底是表用途呢,还是目的呢?
真的很难简单的从逻辑意思上来分出胜负。
2)C里面they 的指代: they出现在从句里面,所以其指代优先指代的是主句的名词,而不是从句。所以这里they指代有歧义
3)C的they did, 貌似真得加上个so ,才可以, 因为did指代colonize, 是个及物动词,所以后面得跟宾语。
综上,虽然E的for doing看着别扭,但毕竟不是个绝对错误(无法判断这里到底是用途还是目的), 其它都很好。
唉,本来写这帖子是为了给C正名的, 结果,写着写着,自己被E说服了。
同意E好一些
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