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作者: xinfaxian 时间: 2005-8-18 10:22
标题: GWD-28-7<---ethyl更改标题（GWD 28-7 好像还没有标准答案，大家选啥？）

28-7: In 1960’s studies of rats, scientists found that crowding increases the number of attacks among the animals significantly. But in recent experiments in which Rhesus monkeys were placed in crowded conditions, although there was an increase in instances of “coping” behavior – such as submissive gestures and avoidance of dominant individuals – attacks did not become any more frequent. Therefore it is not likely that, for any species of monkey, crowding increases aggression as significantly as was seen in rats.

Which of the following, if true, most strengthens the argument?

A: All the observed forms of coping behavior can be found among rhesus monkeys living in uncrowded conditions.

B: In the studies of rats, nondominant individuals were found to increasingly avoid dominant individuals when the animals were in crowded conditions.

C: Rhesus monkeys respond with aggression to a wider range of stimuli than any other monkeys do.

D: Some individual monkeys in the experiment were involved in significantly more attacks than the other monkeys were.

E: Some of the coping behavior displayed by rhesus monkeys is similar to behavior rhesus monkeys use to bring to an end an attack that has begun.

作者: howardwang 时间: 2005-8-18 11:29

我觉得C应该是正确选项。

OPEN TO DISGUSS

作者: ethyl 时间: 2005-8-18 12:29

我选A，我觉得C无关；因为结论说的就是crowding会不会引起侵犯，没有讲猴子对其它刺激的反应。

作者: howardwang 时间: 2005-8-18 12:39

结论是it is not likely that, for any species of monkey, crowding increases aggression as significantly as was seen in rats.

其中，any species 是个绝对化的概念，没有C，Rhesus monkeys 无法代表any species 。

所以，我认为只有C是正确的。

作者: xinfaxian 时间: 2005-8-18 12:54
一开始选C,看了大家的讨论，还是选C,呵呵。

作者: xinfaxian 时间: 2005-8-18 12:58

C. Rhesus monkeys respond with aggression to a wider range of stimuli than any other monkeys do

C的意思说R 猴子比其他猴子对aggression的刺激更敏感，所以R 也不吵架了，那就说明支持了结论，鼠比猴aggressive啊。请指教。

作者: ethyl 时间: 2005-8-18 18:33
想了想，还是C好。

作者: xiaoxiao1117 时间: 2005-8-25 02:42

I chose C

作者: namisun 时间: 2005-8-25 08:23

偶选C，因为被选中的猴子比较具有代表性

作者: Colin33 时间: 2005-8-25 22:24

同意楼上, 这是一个sample是否有代表性的题

作者: v22 时间: 2005-9-10 16:10

偶怎么觉得是E呢？

作者: v22 时间: 2005-9-11 21:31

现在想想还是选C了。R猴子都已经最aggressive了，他们在crowded conditions下，都表现得attacks did not become any more frequent，更何况其他猴子呢？是不是

E就不是那码事，咱就选了个E？？

作者: sherryly 时间: 2005-10-3 11:25
选A， A指出即使在不拥挤的环境下，猴子也有这种反应，因此说明这种反应和拥挤无关。

作者: mojomojo 时间: 2005-10-6 23:49
C

作者: ayang1017 时间: 2005-10-7 14:31

答案c，我记得我做过，在这里ac其实都是支持

但是其实在逻辑题里也存在比较的概念，也就是谁支持的程度更大，仔细分析ac就会发现

是c的程度更大

作者: liu977 时间: 2005-10-10 18:22

这题还是想再提出来讨论一下，怎么也想不通为什么选C不选A，我想问题出在两个地方的理解：

1。原题结论是：因此，不是所有种类的猴子都和老鼠一样容易受到拥挤的刺激。这个不存在所谓的绝对化问题，退一步说，即使其它猴子都受刺激，根据文章可知Rhesus猴是不受刺激的，因此这个结论还是成立的。这个结论其实是很自然推出来的，就是说R猴不受刺激，所以推出不是所有猴子都受刺激。这个结论如果改写成：所有猴子都不受刺激，那才存在样本代表问题。

2。对于选项的理解：a wider range到底是指范围广还是程度广不好说，如果是范围广的话，则该选项无关，在此保持沉默

A的正确性在于，文章很明确的说了crowding increase 了rat的刺激，又说虽然R猴Increase in "coping"，但还是说明R猴不受刺激，那自然要强调一下coping的增加不代表crowding的刺激作用才好

Open to discuss...

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作者: chenfruit 时间: 2005-10-23 07:02

Crowded ---> Rats attack

Crowded----> R.monkey no attack

結論: (為何用單一品種R猴子居然可推出全部猴子的習性!)

In a crowded space,

all monkey are not likely to act as Rats do

綜上所述,

R猴,之所以可代表全部猴子乃因為它接受crowded的程度最低

它都可以成立了,全部猴子當然也可以成立! 舉重以明輕!

答案是C

作者: shashaxz 时间: 2005-11-9 23:25

for any monkeys，这个是个tricky。根本不是样本的问题，题目的意思是，对任何一种猴子来说，crowd都会引起打斗，是不太可能的。any monkey不等于all the monkey

那么r猴肯定是一种猴子，那么题目可以改写成，对于r猴来说，因crowd会引起打斗，是不可能的。

那么答案就应该是E了！

作者: redyoyo 时间: 2005-11-11 07:54
agree with E

作者: modest 时间: 2005-11-12 04:53

A: All the observed forms of coping behavior can be found among rhesus monkeys living in uncrowded conditions.

"uncrowded" or "crowed " lead to the same consequense. weaken

B: In the studies of rats, nondominant individuals were found to increasingly avoid dominant individuals when the animals were in crowded conditions.

has no business with monkey

C: Rhesus monkeys respond with aggression to a wider range of stimuli than any other monkeys do.

opposite to the conclusion"Therefore it is not likely that, for any species of monkey, crowding increases aggression as significantly as was seen in rats."

D: Some individual monkeys in the experiment were involved in significantly more attacks than the other monkeys were.

opposite to the conclusion

E: Some of the coping behavior displayed by rhesus monkeys is similar to behavior rhesus monkeys use to bring to an end an attack that has begun

strengthen. so i choose e.

作者: zimmer5 时间: 2005-11-16 17:27

我也支持E

作者: 芷菁 时间: 2005-11-21 13:15

I agree with C

作者: 香香茶 时间: 2005-11-23 10:15
agree E

作者: yangxiaogang 时间: 2005-11-25 07:44

I think E is the best answer! confirmed!

作者: 独去闲 时间: 2005-12-3 01:50

以前选 E。现在想想有问题。 E只能说明 rhesus 猴子为什么不怎么攻击。而要说明的是any species of monkey。还是C好些。连比其他猴子更具攻击性的 rhesus 猴都不在拥挤空间攻击了，更何况其他种类的猴子呢？

作者: PKGMAT 时间: 2005-12-10 10:44
Support C

作者: endless_tao 时间: 2005-12-12 09:36

以下是引用modest在2005-11-12 4:53:00的发言：

E: Some of the coping behavior displayed by rhesus monkeys is similar to behavior rhesus monkeys use to bring to an end an attack that has begun

strengthen. so i choose e.

请教：如何翻译这个E？黄字部分如何理解好一些——偶一直没有看懂这个选项。

作者: lcy 时间: 2005-12-13 21:07
同意楼上

"Therefore it is not likely that, for any species of monkey, crowding increases aggression as significantly as was seen in rats."

作者: lcy 时间: 2005-12-13 21:10
support C

"Therefore it is not likely that, for any
species of monkey, crowding increases aggression as significantly as
was seen in rats."

作者: sisivsgmat 时间: 2005-12-20 01:10
标题: 仔细读一下原题最后一句话

Therefore it is not likely that, for any species of
monkey, crowding increases aggression as significantly as was seen in rats.

这句话是否可以这样理解：要证明不是所有种类的猴子都会ATTACK，只要举出一个反例就可以了，那么r这种猴子就是一个反例。这样理解就不存在sample的问题，c就无关了。

作者: sisivsgmat 时间: 2005-12-20 04:39
标题: 选C
确定了一下这个句子的意思，是表示none of the species 和rats一样。那么逻辑关键点就在于sample

，选c

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作者: andyteng 时间: 2006-4-23 05:13
I agree , C is the best answer.

作者: maggiecookies 时间: 2006-8-28 21:48

同意C, 说明选中的样本是具有带表性的,(证明推理是正确的).

作者: ecochem 时间: 2006-10-15 00:31

前面论证是讲R monkey的实验，后面的结论是关于any species of monkey

我觉得答案就是要在个别和一般之间架桥，C best answer

作者: yd_charles 时间: 2006-11-15 20:12

以下是引用howardwang在2005-8-18 12:39:00的发言：

结论是it is not likely that, for any species of monkey, crowding increases aggression as significantly as was seen in rats.

其中，any species 是个绝对化的概念，没有C，Rhesus monkeys 无法代表any species 。

所以，我认为只有C是正确的。

顶

any species 是关键

作者: 娜娜仁 时间: 2006-12-1 21:06
ding

作者: hedge 时间: 2006-12-9 14:33
thanks

作者: michaellu97 时间: 2006-12-19 22:07
vote c

作者: sookai 时间: 2007-1-14 12:44
支持c
因为结论是由某种猴子的行为跟所有种类猴子行为的比较。所以在答案中一定要包含这两者的联系。
所以E是一个无关的选项

作者: campos 时间: 2007-8-30 14:34
我觉得关键是怎么理解 “Therefore it is not likely that, for any species
of monkey, crowding increases aggression as significantly as was seen in rats.”



一种理解是：对任何猴子，crowding increase 不可能 agression increase   （是说这种因果关系在任何猴子当中都不可能，not 修饰likely，这个时候选C）

另外一种理解是：不是对任何猴子，crowding increase ->agression increase （是说有的猴子成立，有的不成立，not 可以理解为修饰 any，感觉这样不满足就近原则，只是一种语感，所以应该不对）

作者: wgaggassi34 时间: 2007-9-28 20:04

vote for C

作者: snowofjune 时间: 2007-12-13 11:50
看不懂这道题目问得到底是什么？题目中的结论本身是什么？

作者: eileenmu木 时间: 2008-3-24 15:09

这题加强题类似假设题，由观察到的R猴推any monkey species,中间是存在GAP的，C正好填补了

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作者: sumerlaw 时间: 2009-4-2 20:42
肯定选C了

作者: xiaoniuren 时间: 2009-7-19 23:55
DDDD

作者: zhengjingzhe 时间: 2009-7-21 10:59
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