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作者: elusive 时间: 2016-3-27 16:55
标题: 求助，海星那道题，with的用法
Starfish, with anywhere from five to eight arms, have a strong regenerative ability, and if one arm is lost it quickly replaces it, sometimes by the animal overcompensating and growing an extra one or two.

A one arm is lost it quickly replaces it, sometimes by the animal overcompensating and
B one arm is lost it is quickly replaced, with the animal sometimes overcompensating and
C they lose one arm they quickly replace it, sometimes by the animal overcompensating,
D they lose one arm they are quickly replaced, with the animal sometimes overcompensating,
E they lose one arm it is quickly replaced, sometimes with the animal overcompensating,

我的思考：
A：it代指鱼，单数错了
B：看起来没错
C：看起来没错
D：if前后主语不一样

BC怎么区分？
E：同D

作者: elusive 时间: 2016-3-27 17:11
趁我还在快顶

作者: 医生吃鱼 时间: 2016-3-27 20:23
B选项中： one arm is lost it is quickly replaced, with（修饰红色部分） the animal sometimes overcompensating and growing an extra one or two.

C选项的绝对错误是“逗号+growing”，变成修饰前面整句话，而无法和overcompensating平行，导致句意错。

作者: evenhuang0502 时间: 2016-3-27 20:32
1. compensating前不用加逗号；

2. by表“通过……方式达到什么目的” ，比如：i make a living by teaching. 说得好像animal故意要overcompensating and growing extra one or two来达到replace的目的一样。其实“the animal sometimes overcompensating” 只是伴随了前面的main clause

作者: 医生吃鱼 时间: 2016-3-27 20:41

evenhuang0502 发表于 2016-3-27 20:32
1. compensating前不用加逗号；

2. by表“通过……方式达到什么目的” ，比如：i make a living by teach ...

同意，C选项中by的用法确实不符合句意。

作者: elusive 时间: 2016-3-28 01:55

医生吃鱼发表于 2016-3-27 20:23
B选项中： one arm is lost it is quickly replaced, with（修饰红色部分） the animal sometimes overcomp ...

C：
Starfish, with anywhere from five to eight arms, have a strong regenerative ability, and if they lose one arm they quickly replace it, sometimes by the animal overcompensating, growing an extra one or two.

B里面with修饰胳膊是懂的，
但是，C里面我觉得growing是伴随结果，也就是说只看逗号和growing应该是对的。
楼下说的对，问题应该是出在by上

作者: elusive 时间: 2016-3-28 02:25

evenhuang0502 发表于 2016-3-27 20:32
1. compensating前不用加逗号；

2. by表“通过……方式达到什么目的” ，比如：i make a living by teach ...

我大概懂了，海星不是故意要长出多余的胳膊。

我现在想的是：
B里面with修饰的是it，也就是胳膊。也就是说“带有动物overcompensate和grow extra one or two的属性，如果一个胳膊损失了，它会被马上replaced。”
但是，C里面by修饰的是they或者it。是谁通过overcompensate长出多余的胳膊来是不确定的。
如果修饰的是they，也就是海星，意思就变成“ 如果海星损失了一个胳膊，海星会有的时候通过海星的overcompensate来replace 这个胳膊“，结果是growing extra one or two.
如果修饰的是it，那也不对，胳膊不能自己生长。

作者: elusive 时间: 2016-3-28 02:26
谢谢大家解答

作者: elusive 时间: 2016-3-28 02:35
我又找到一个by的题

Whereas a ramjet generally cannot achieve high speeds without the initial assistance of a rocket, high speeds can be attained by scramjets, or supersonic combustion ramjets, in that they reduce airflow compression at the entrance of the engine and letting air pass through at supersonic speeds.

A) high speeds can be attained by scramjets, or supersonic combustion ramjets, in that they reduce

B) that high speeds can be attained by scramjets, or supersonic combustion ramjets, is a result of their reducing

C) the ability of scramjets, or supersonic combustion ramjets, to achieve high speeds is because they reduce

D) scramjets, or supersonic combustion ramjets, have the ability of attaining high speeds when reducing

E) scramjets, or supersonic combustion ramjets, can attain high speeds by reducing

这里by是通过，，，达到目的的意思。

作者: 医生吃鱼 时间: 2016-3-28 08:14

elusive 发表于 2016-3-28 01:55
C：
Starfish, with anywhere from five to eight arms, have a strong regenerative ability, and if th ...

同意，by的句意错。

另外，逗号+growing结构是修饰前面的句子主语或整句话，无法修饰by overcompensating这个modifier，因此这个结构也导致句意错。

作者: f-hanes 时间: 2016-3-28 10:57

elusive 发表于 2016-3-28 02:25
我大概懂了，海星不是故意要长出多余的胳膊。

我现在想的是：

这里with和by都是做状语吧，怎么修饰noun？

作者: f-hanes 时间: 2016-3-28 11:10

医生吃鱼发表于 2016-3-28 08:14
同意，by的句意错。

另外，逗号+growing结构是修饰前面的句子主语或整句话，无法修饰by overcompensatin ...

我之前也认为comma+ving不能修饰前面modifier，你看看这个例子：Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinating them with her narratives, capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world. 如果coordinating可以越过in her book illustrations修饰BP，那么句子应该是正确的，但这是错误答案，所以我推测comma ving或许可以修饰前面任何成分，不一定是句子或从句。你怎么看？

作者: elusive 时间: 2016-3-28 11:34

f-hanes 发表于 2016-3-28 10:57
这里with和by都是做状语吧，怎么修饰noun？

不修饰胳膊的话with修饰谁？

作者: f-hanes 时间: 2016-3-28 12:22

elusive 发表于 2016-3-28 11:34
不修饰胳膊的话with修饰谁？

做状语应该修饰整个句子: it is quickly replaced.

作者: elusive 时间: 2016-3-28 12:38

f-hanes 发表于 2016-3-28 12:22
做状语应该修饰整个句子: it is quickly replaced.

我明白你的意思了，你是说with同时修饰主语谓语对吧，

作者: elusive 时间: 2016-3-28 12:39

f-hanes 发表于 2016-3-28 12:22
做状语应该修饰整个句子: it is quickly replaced.

对，with应该修饰主语谓语，所以是伴随状语。

作者: 医生吃鱼 时间: 2016-3-28 17:24

f-hanes 发表于 2016-3-28 11:10
我之前也认为comma+ving不能修饰前面modifier，你看看这个例子：Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrati ...

逗号+Ving结构类似副词修饰前面句子主语或整个句子，这个跳跃修饰的前提是逗号前面有句子哦！

你举得例子中，coordinating前面没有句子，所以它变成类似于形容词词组的modifier，应该紧跟修饰对象Beatrix。
而它被in her bookillustration这个modifier隔开了，导致句意混淆。

作者: f-hanes 时间: 2016-3-28 20:33

医生吃鱼发表于 2016-3-28 17:24
逗号+Ving结构类似副词修饰前面句子主语或整个句子，这个跳跃修饰的前提是逗号前面有句子哦！

你举得例 ...

所以是有句子在前面，优先跳跃修饰句子，没有则就近修饰？

作者: 医生吃鱼 时间: 2016-3-28 21:00

f-hanes 发表于 2016-3-28 20:33
所以是有句子在前面，优先跳跃修饰句子，没有则就近修饰？

对的！
如果你发现例外了，多多交流哈！

作者: evenhuang0502 时间: 2016-4-10 18:36

医生吃鱼发表于 2016-3-28 21:00
对的！
如果你发现例外了，多多交流哈！

大神想问你关于一道GWD SC的理解，因为怕你找不到我的帖子，就直接在这里问了。

The computer company's present troubles are a result of technological stagnation, marketing missteps, and managerial blunders so that several attempts to revise corporate strategies have failed to correct it.
A.so that several attempts to revise corporate strategies have failed to correct it.
B.so that several attempts at revising corporate strategies have failed to correct
C.in that several attempts at revising corporate strategies have failed to correct them
D.that several attempts to revise corporate strategies have failed to correct
E.that several attempts at revising corporate strategies have failed to correct them

正确选E。想问E开头那个that作什么成分呢？？

作者: 医生吃鱼 时间: 2016-4-11 09:39

evenhuang0502 发表于 2016-4-10 18:36
大神想问你关于一道GWD SC的理解，因为怕你找不到我的帖子，就直接在这里问了。

The computer company' ...

你的答案错了，OA是D，详见OG16-Verbal分册-SC85题。

跟D选项，that引导定语从句，修饰managerial blunders。

错误答案困扰你很久了吧

作者: evenhuang0502 时间: 2016-4-11 13:09

医生吃鱼发表于 2016-4-11 09:39
你的答案错了，OA是D，详见OG16-Verbal分册-SC85题。

跟D选项，that引导定语从句，修饰managerial blund ...

欧！瞬间通了~蟹蟹><

作者: 医生吃鱼 时间: 2016-4-11 18:16

evenhuang0502 发表于 2016-4-11 13:09
欧！瞬间通了~蟹蟹>

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