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作者: maliang5971 时间: 2015-11-6 13:41
标题: 德国曼海姆商学院 MBA 见闻
Mannheim Business School, 冷门区域性学校，德国第一，我刚从那边毕业。下面是我在另外一个论坛写的，是英语的，我懒得翻译成中文了。我当时随便写了一下，没有时间proof-reading, 里面的语法或者不好的用法我请见谅, 希望对于想申请曼海姆商学院或者德语区的MBA有帮助。

My MBA Experiences at Mannheim Business School

I just graduated from Mannheim Business School. And I think it would be helpful to people who are interested in becoming a Mannheimer to know what they would expect here.

*****Job prospects after the MBA*****

Though it is not easy to find a good job due to the sagging economy, most of our classmates already secured an MBA-level job. I think a few of them are struggling a little bit, but it is just a matter a time for them to get something, and good news do come from time to time.

The major recruiters for Mannheim-MBA graduates are:

Bosch (I heard 5 students got an offer from Bosch, including me, but Bosch has the "local for local" concept so they might send you back home, so I am working in Shanghai as BD Manager now, but on a regional (Asia-Pacific) level.
Amazon
General Motors
Bombardier
KPMG
SAP
Freudenberg
Merck
Other relatively unknown SMEs
A few NGOs
A few small IT consulting firms

No way or nearly impossible to get in first-tier consulting firms such as MBB. Second-tier ones such as big four and Accenture are possible but not easy. I got invitations from KPMG and NTT Data, but did not go to the interviews at that time as I already had offers from Bosch, Microsoft and a small consulting firm. I interviewed with Accenture, Deloitte Digital but they rejected me after 5 rounds of interview. I speak at least C1-level German, but still not good enough for them because their clients are mainly German SMEs located in villages in the middle of nowhere. However, those firms, including MBB, love to recruit undergraduates from the university.

A few classmates are still actively seeking for jobs and having interviews in Germany, a few went back home directly after graduation and did find a decent job out there, a few give up searching for jobs in Germany and now start to look for opportunities in their home countries or somewhere else, a few classmates are doing internships, and I think it could be a good way for them to land a job thereafter. Luckily they all have the 18 months visa. I firmly believe that they will find something eventually based on what happened to the previous batch, it is indeed just a matter of time and luck.

The career service did a decent job in terms of finding potential recruiters for the MBA students. At the beginning we complained a lot because it did not look as beautiful as it should be. But they tried really hard. I guess it is not their problem because generally speaking, German companies do not want to recruit MBA students and pay high salaries for them. I guess this situation won't get better even in 10 years. That's why we use "Mannheim" significantly more than "MBA" when we were looking for jobs because Mannheim is a brand name here. I agree that it is more of a student-driven job market instead of a recruiter-driven market. It all depends on how good you are or how you sell yourself in the interviews especially when you do not speak German.

Salary, I guess bottom line 50.000 Euros, average 70.000 to 80.000. There are a few students who get much more, for example, 10.000+ but they are rare cases.

Probably I should not mention this, but I don't really feel like working in Germany since I am still young, and I feel that I can never compete with the German in German. (I did an internship in between at a local small consulting firm, 100% German working environment, and I hated it) . Plus the life there is just so slow-paced. If you are looking for something exciting, I doubt whether Germany is right the place to stay in. So the questions comes down eventually to what do you really want.

***** Learning Experience *****

The quality of the education is decent, some professors are really great, a few of them are sadly shitty (I guess some of them can teach in German very well but not in English). But we had some visiting professors from some other top-tier b-schools, but they sometimes can be very shitty as well, so it is a case-by-case thing, nothing to do with Mannheim Business School. Sometimes I read questions in this forum such as :"is the marketing faculty good at xx business school because I want to switch to marketing after graduation". I think it does not apply here to the situation in Germany. People simply don't care about what you have learned in class. But the systematic trainings on soft skills matter much more, because these are things that could be beneficial for the rest of your life, and I think Mannheim has very rich offerings in this area.

During the MBA I had the opportunity to be mentored by CEO of BASF foundation Dr. Unger during the Hult International Case Challenge, and he really makes think what leadership is about because he is just such a down-to-earth person. Also I met a V.P. Human Resources at Bosch who directed me to this job opportunity in Shanghai. And those experiences further confirmed my thoughts that MBA is just an experience, you won't use a lot of the knowledge you acquired from the MBA, so take it easy and have fun. Also my MCT (multi-competency team, 5 students) conducted a 3-month consulting project for Bahlsen, a leading supplier of sweet biscuits in Europe, and we nailed it completely. This somehow also boosted our confidence, and this does look very good on our CV.

***** After-class life*****

The overall experience has been great, though people say that Mannheim is a very ugly city, second to no other German cities. Yes, it is not as beautiful as Heidelberg, which is only 15 minutes by train away. But it is a cool city with a vibrant energy. I like Mannheim and I miss my life there. I had a lot of fun. I met great people out there. What I love most about the program is that we as a class hold tight together. I am talking about life-long relationships. I heard in some European b-schools people hate each other haha.

I had took part in the Tough Mudder NRW with my classmates, learned rowing because we have to compete with another business school WHU in Germany, and took yoga classes regularly, and went jogging with my classmate Sergey from time to time, even from Mannheim to Heidelberg. I think I will keep those habits for the rest of my life.

Oh yeah, the beers. Tons of beers.

***** After graduation *****

The feeling of being an MBA is absolutely great. Kinda of cliche but I do feel much more confident than before. It would be impossible for me to do so before the MBA because I might lose my shit in front of them.

Also I think have a lot of positive energy than before as I start to believe in a lot of things again. I still need to figure out what I really want in life, but whatever, I just wanna live in the moment and enjoy what I am doing.

作者: 越狱LV 时间: 2015-11-6 16:14
Awesome experience! Proud of you! See you soon in Shanghai!

作者: chloelyu 时间: 2015-11-6 16:53
一直在找德语]区MBA的信息顶楼主

作者: luckgracelu 时间: 2015-11-6 21:27
从群里转过来看帖子。真是好贴，给了很有价值的参考信息啊。赞

作者: clairloo 时间: 2015-11-11 06:41
感谢分享

作者: roylist 时间: 2015-11-17 20:13
楼主回国后是global pay还是？

作者: aluzeing 时间: 2015-11-20 00:12
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作者: eddie320 时间: 2015-11-20 00:19
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作者: Ray0102 时间: 2015-11-23 21:23
感谢分享！

作者: Nicole2015 时间: 2016-1-22 18:55
thanks for great help！ I am planning to apply for MSc in Management at Mannheim Business School, and the experience your shared just motivates me to get down to doing it! Thanks again.!!

作者: Lindaa 时间: 2016-2-2 22:17
你好，请问曼海姆MBA录取时，两轮面试淘汰率是怎样的？谢谢

作者: dzlsd 时间: 2016-4-13 20:31
请问车辆本科的背景能申请曼海姆的mba吗？专业不一样

作者: wtyueyuki 时间: 2016-8-17 16:34
难得的干货篇！真的很有用！感谢

作者: danerzz 时间: 2016-9-2 09:25
superb

作者: duckblue0228 时间: 2016-9-28 16:24
楼主请问德语重要性，楼主德语是不是很6？学了多久

作者: tianhan 时间: 2016-10-12 15:56
楼主你好，看了你的分享，受益匪浅。本人正在考虑明年申请曼海姆MBA项目，看了很多论坛貌似去这个学校的中国人比较少，不知能否私信联系你呢？
谢谢祝生活愉快~

作者: KarrieYu 时间: 2016-10-23 10:36
你好！我对在德国读商学院的研究生非常感兴趣。长期打算非常想去本地的一些汽车制造公司做strategy或者marketing之类的工作，请问在mba毕业学生类似此类的机会怎么样？非常感谢！
我现在在加拿大金融行业工作，无德语基础。。。

谢谢！！

作者: spotty 时间: 2016-10-25 21:14

KarrieYu 发表于 2016-10-23 10:36
你好！我对在德国读商学院的研究生非常感兴趣。长期打算非常想去本地的一些汽车制造公司做strategy或者mark ...

strategy和marketing都是对当地语言要求很高的职位，即使是像MBB这样国际化的公司也很少有只需要英语的实习或工作岗位，本土咨询就更不用说了。
如果真要申德国MBA，除了曼海姆还可以考虑柏林的ESMT，他家项目strategy和marketing方向也非常好。

作者: KarrieYu 时间: 2016-10-26 00:30
请问可以加一下微信么？有一些关于德国的问题想请教一下谢谢！ ?

作者: KarrieYu 时间: 2016-10-26 00:31

spotty 发表于 2016-10-25 21:14
strategy和marketing都是对当地语言要求很高的职位，即使是像MBB这样国际化的公司也很少有只需要英语的实 ...

请问可以加一下微信么？有一些关于德国的问题想请教一下谢谢！ ?

作者: 秋秋哎吉迈特 时间: 2016-11-7 10:53
楼主还可以看到么？目前也在博世工作，想申请明年的MBA MBA Program. 方便联系一下么？想了解一下面试经非常感谢

作者: 秋秋哎吉迈特 时间: 2016-11-7 10:54

Lindaa 发表于 2016-2-2 22:17
你好，请问曼海姆MBA录取时，两轮面试淘汰率是怎样的？谢谢

请问你问到这个问题的答案了么？我也特别想了解一下。

作者: Zach_Chocho 时间: 2016-11-7 20:12
顶楼主～

作者: KarrieYu 时间: 2016-11-14 01:47

spotty 发表于 2016-10-25 21:14
strategy和marketing都是对当地语言要求很高的职位，即使是像MBB这样国际化的公司也很少有只需要英语的实 ...

请问可以加一下微信么？有一些关于德国的问题想请教一下谢谢！ ?

作者: Johnny_Li 时间: 2018-2-5 13:11
好帖~写得很用心~

作者: cocofighting233 时间: 2019-3-12 11:11
顶楼主！

作者: 布人 时间: 2021-2-2 19:40

spotty 发表于 2016-10-25 21:14
strategy和marketing都是对当地语言要求很高的职位，即使是像MBB这样国际化的公司也很少有只需要英语的实 ...

同意！

作者: 布人 时间: 2021-6-28 20:52
mark

作者: clara1223 时间: 2021-10-21 10:22
谢谢楼主，请问可以加微信请教么？

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